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justasportsfan
02-26-2010, 01:25 PM
Buffalo: Tackle top priority
Offensive tackle Bryan Bulaga from Iowa is the kind of kid that would fit perfectly in Buffalo. You're talking about a cold-weather kid that's tough. He's technique proficient. The only question I have on him is his arm length. We all remember a few years ago when the kid from Iowa, Robert Gallery, went really early to Oakland. He had 32-inch arms, struggled on the outside, had to kick him on the inside.


So Bulaga looks like he's got short arms. We haven't measured him yet. This week it will be interesting to see whether or not he's 33 inches or more. But his technique is tremendous. He's been coached very well. He's a tough kid. He's smart in both the run and pass game. So I think he's ready to start.

Anthony Davis from Rutgers, a junior, may be a little bit immature off the field, a little bit inconsistent. He's got the talent to play on the left side from Day 1. The coaching staff is going to have to grab his attention early and keep it, and if you take him that high, you're going to plug him in Day 1, and he's going to need to play at a high level. He's got a little bit of a work-ethic issue but he's supremely talented.

Trent Williams from Oklahoma is probably a little more suited for the right side. However, on tape, it sure looks like he can play on the left side. And, again, he's got a couple of off-the-field issues from a work-ethic perspective. But he's a kid that I think you could plug in.





http://www.nfl.com/combine/story?id=09000d5d81692755&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

Ed
02-26-2010, 01:41 PM
I'd be happy with Bulaga and I agree that he seems like a perfect fit for Buffalo. Personally, I think the length of arms thing gets overblown. If a guy can play, he can play.

I really don't want any player with questionable work ethic, particularly at the #9 spot.

The Spaz
02-26-2010, 01:58 PM
Listening to Buluga speak yesterday I definitely wouldn't mind him on the team. He seems to be a nasty SOB.

Midwesternbillsfan
02-26-2010, 02:33 PM
Since it's salient to the question about Buluga's arm length, they measured 33 1/4" at the Combine yesterday. Not ideal but that length is probably adequate. There are still some questions if his feet are as quick as teams looking for a left tackle, especially as high as 9th in the Draft, are desiring; that's why many wonder if he isn't a RT (a very good right tackle) in the NFL.

psubills62
02-26-2010, 02:34 PM
In case anyone is interesting, the OL are bench-pressing today (# of reps of 225 lbs), and here's the numbers so far:

Bruce Campbell: 34
Mike Iupati: 27
Charles Brown: 21
Selvish Capers: 19
Vlad Ducasse: 29
Anthony Davis: 21
Bryan Bulaga: 26
Russell Okung: 38
Mitch Petrus: 45
Jared Veldheer: 32
Trent Williams: 23

No way Okung drops to us. There was 0.01% chance before, but now it's 0% for sure. Seriously doubt he gets by KC at the very least.

Mahdi
02-26-2010, 02:34 PM
I'd be happy with Bulaga and I agree that he seems like a perfect fit for Buffalo. Personally, I think the length of arms thing gets overblown. If a guy can play, he can play.

I really don't want any player with questionable work ethic, particularly at the #9 spot.
It's not only short arms, he also has the smallest hand span of all the OTs. That is a concern. I don't think he is a top 10 pick.

mayotm
02-26-2010, 02:43 PM
It's not only short arms, he also has the smallest hand span of all the OTs. That is a concern. I don't think he is a top 10 pick.You don't think he is a top 10 pick because of his short arms and small hands? This is exactly what Nix claims he won't do. That is, change his grade on a player based on what he sees at the combine. He'd rather grade a guy on what he sees on tape.

k-oneputt
02-26-2010, 02:45 PM
Capers 19 reps ???? That's terrible.

k-oneputt
02-26-2010, 02:46 PM
Campbell at 34 is impressive considering his long arms.

Mahdi
02-26-2010, 02:48 PM
You don't think he is a top 10 pick because of his short arms and small hands? This is exactly what Nix claims he won't do. That is, change his grade on a player based on what he sees at the combine. He'd rather grade a guy on what he sees on tape.
Ok, and the tape says the same things, he has great technique but he doesn't dominate opponents consistently and he can be abused at times (see Bulaga vs Brandon Graham). Don't get me wrong I like Bulaga, but I dont think he is top 10.

I think he is top 20.

k-oneputt
02-26-2010, 02:51 PM
Ok, and the tape says the same things, he has great technique but he doesn't dominate opponents consistently and he can be abused at times (see Bulaga vs Brandon Graham). Don't get me wrong I like Bulaga, but I dont think he is top 10.

I think he is top 20.

I agree. Especially for a guy who I think his best position in the NFL would be right tackle.

BidsJr
02-26-2010, 02:55 PM
One thing to keep in mind about Bulaga, is that he is a "True" Junior coming out very young. He missed half of this season due to a thyroid issue that has been resolved, and was only getting back into form at the end of the season.


He is a great hard working kid who would start for the Bills at LT day 1. Super low risk pick.

SaviorEdwards
02-26-2010, 03:00 PM
Draft the Beluga Whale in the 1st and Timmy Tebow in the 2nd.

bigfish2112
02-26-2010, 03:00 PM
In case anyone is interesting, the OL are bench-pressing today (# of reps of 225 lbs), and here's the numbers so far:

Bruce Campbell: 34
Mike Iupati: 27
Charles Brown: 21
Selvish Capers: 19
Vlad Ducasse: 29reps
Anthony Davis: 21
Bryan Bulaga: 26
Russell Okung: 38
Mitch Petrus: 45

No way Okung drops to us. There was 0.01% chance before, but now it's 0% for sure. Seriously doubt he gets by KC at the very least.

Okung is a beast! Bulagas numbers are not that good for having shorter arms . Anthony davis 21 reps is terrible!

Aliceinchainsbills15
02-26-2010, 03:04 PM
Buffalo: Tackle top priority
Offensive tackle Bryan Bulaga from Iowa is the kind of kid that would fit perfectly in Buffalo. You're talking about a cold-weather kid that's tough. He's technique proficient. The only question I have on him is his arm length. We all remember a few years ago when the kid from Iowa, Robert Gallery, went really early to Oakland. He had 32-inch arms, struggled on the outside, had to kick him on the inside.


So Bulaga looks like he's got short arms. We haven't measured him yet. This week it will be interesting to see whether or not he's 33 inches or more. But his technique is tremendous. He's been coached very well. He's a tough kid. He's smart in both the run and pass game. So I think he's ready to start.

Anthony Davis from Rutgers, a junior, may be a little bit immature off the field, a little bit inconsistent. He's got the talent to play on the left side from Day 1. The coaching staff is going to have to grab his attention early and keep it, and if you take him that high, you're going to plug him in Day 1, and he's going to need to play at a high level. He's got a little bit of a work-ethic issue but he's supremely talented.

Trent Williams from Oklahoma is probably a little more suited for the right side. However, on tape, it sure looks like he can play on the left side. And, again, he's got a couple of off-the-field issues from a work-ethic perspective. But he's a kid that I think you could plug in.





http://www.nfl.com/combine/story?id=09000d5d81692755&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
I'm going to HUGELY diagree with Maylock here. Qb is top priority right now unless we trade or sign a proven QB.

JCBills
02-26-2010, 03:05 PM
Petrus is a freak athlete. He used to play fullback lol.

PECKERWOOD
02-26-2010, 03:56 PM
People are really *****ing over 1 inch??? Get a life.

Jeff1220
02-26-2010, 04:07 PM
People are really *****ing over 1 inch??? Get a life.

You say that a lot don't you?






(Sorry. Couldn't resist.)

better days
02-26-2010, 04:42 PM
Since it's salient to the question about Buluga's arm length, they measured 33 1/4" at the Combine yesterday. Not ideal but that length is probably adequate. There are still some questions if his feet are as quick as teams looking for a left tackle, especially as high as 9th in the Draft, are desiring; that's why many wonder if he isn't a RT (a very good right tackle) in the NFL.

His arms were only 3/4" shorter than Davis's, probably because of shorter fingers. I don't think his arm length should be an issue.

Night Train
02-26-2010, 04:43 PM
People are really *****ing over 1 inch???
They work in the porn industry during the week.

better days
02-26-2010, 04:45 PM
Mayock also said that it may take Tebow a couple years but he will get it done. He said "I believe in Tebow."

DraftBoy
02-26-2010, 05:57 PM
Ok, and the tape says the same things, he has great technique but he doesn't dominate opponents consistently and he can be abused at times (see Bulaga vs Brandon Graham). Don't get me wrong I like Bulaga, but I dont think he is top 10.

I think he is top 20.

Id like you to show me that tape, or at least give me a game other than Michigan. Here are the other games that he played this season v. top pass rushers;

UNI-James Ruffin-0 Tackles, 0 TFL, 0 Sack
Missed Three Games-Thyroid Condition
Arkansas State-Alex Carrington 3 Tackles, 1 TFL, 0 Sack
Mchigan-Brandon Graham 9 Tackles, 3.5 TFL, 2 Sacks
Wisconsin-O'Brien Schofield 5 Tackles, 2 TFL, 0 Sacks
Indiana-Jamie Kirlew-2 Tackles, 0 TFL, 0 Sacks
Northwestern-Corey Wooten-3 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 Sack
Ohio State-Cameron Heyward-4 Tackles, 0 TFL, 0 Sack
Georgia Tech-Derrick Morgan-2 Tackles, .5 TLF, 0 Sack

So it appears that you keep touting this Michigan game which is clearly more of an exception to the rule than it is indicative to his whole body of work.

So which tape are you referring to then that Bulaga looked bad in, other than the Michigan game?

k-oneputt
02-26-2010, 08:49 PM
3 sacks in 6 games against the major leagues, and 0 sacks in 2 games against the minors.

Nothing to write home about.

TigerJ
02-26-2010, 09:15 PM
Campbell at 34 is impressive considering his long arms.Agreed. He's obviously a weight room junkie. If we could only put to rest the injury concern.

DraftBoy
02-26-2010, 09:41 PM
3 sacks in 6 games against the major leagues, and 0 sacks in 2 games against the minors.

Nothing to write home about.

You completely missed the point.

And just because a kid plays for a smaller school means nothing about their own ability especially Alex Carrington who is a very good pass rusher and James Ruffin is extremely underrated at Northern Iowa. Ruffin finished 6th in the country in sacks this season at the FCS level. Carrington was 25th in FBS.

DraftBoy
02-26-2010, 09:41 PM
Agreed. He's obviously a weight room junkie. If we could only put to rest the injury concern.
And lack of starting experience, and the fact that he's only ever played in a ZBS and would have to learn an entire new scheme, terminology, and assignments.

Mahdi
02-27-2010, 01:03 AM
Id like you to show me that tape, or at least give me a game other than Michigan. Here are the other games that he played this season v. top pass rushers;

UNI-James Ruffin-0 Tackles, 0 TFL, 0 Sack
Missed Three Games-Thyroid Condition
Arkansas State-Alex Carrington 3 Tackles, 1 TFL, 0 Sack
Mchigan-Brandon Graham 9 Tackles, 3.5 TFL, 2 Sacks
Wisconsin-O'Brien Schofield 5 Tackles, 2 TFL, 0 Sacks
Indiana-Jamie Kirlew-2 Tackles, 0 TFL, 0 Sacks
Northwestern-Corey Wooten-3 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 Sack
Ohio State-Cameron Heyward-4 Tackles, 0 TFL, 0 Sack
Georgia Tech-Derrick Morgan-2 Tackles, .5 TLF, 0 Sack

So it appears that you keep touting this Michigan game which is clearly more of an exception to the rule than it is indicative to his whole body of work.

So which tape are you referring to then that Bulaga looked bad in, other than the Michigan game?
The only pure pass rusher on that list is Brandon Graham and he struggled.

The rest of those guys are big, slow, power DEs that Bulaga is comfortable dealing with.

That being said, I think Bulaga is good enough to be picked 15-20 but not any higher.

Short arms compared to the top guy Okung and also the smallest hands of the entire class.

Sure they are just measurements but arms and hands mean a lot to an OT. Throw in the injury concerns and not an overly strong player and you have a guy that should not go in the top 10.

BillsWin
02-27-2010, 02:49 AM
I have this feeling that
A. St. Louis drafts Suh or Bradford.
B. Okung goes to Washington at four. Allowing Clausen and/or Bradford to drop to Seattle who makes or breaks Buffalo's decision.
C. Bills go QB or Buluga.

I don't think there is another LT in this draft that fits the mold of a Nix-Chan-Buffalo player than Buluga.

He like cold weather. He's been well-coached. From everything I've heard, he is a good kid with a nasty streak on the field.

I see the Bills drafting him unless Seattle likes him, or Buffalo falls in love with Bradford or Clausen. Which, I wouldn't put it past them.

DraftBoy
02-27-2010, 08:51 AM
The only pure pass rusher on that list is Brandon Graham and he struggled.

The rest of those guys are big, slow, power DEs that Bulaga is comfortable dealing with.

That being said, I think Bulaga is good enough to be picked 15-20 but not any higher.

Short arms compared to the top guy Okung and also the smallest hands of the entire class.

Sure they are just measurements but arms and hands mean a lot to an OT. Throw in the injury concerns and not an overly strong player and you have a guy that should not go in the top 10.

Im sorry but I have to call you out on this because its both a change in your argument and factually incorrect.

First off you said the tape showed Bulaga struggled at times and could be abused, and I asked you where outside of v. Graham. You have yet to show me what game you are talking about, and it appears as though you are trying to use the exception to the rule, rather than the rule itself.

Secondly the fact that only Graham is a pure pass rusher is an insult to the other players and incorrect. Derrick Morgan, Corey Wooten, and O'Brian Schofield are not power ends. Hell Carrington's 40 is only .04 seconds slower than Graham so to say these guys are power rushers is wrong. Schofield is a quicker and faster end then Graham even, so that takes that theory out.

Im still waiting on you to tell me what game tape shows these issues outside of just the Michigan tape? Otherwise you're talking about the exception...oh and to your arm and hand issue. It was never clearer than last year how overrated those measurements are. Oher had 33.25 inch arms and 10.25 inch hands. Which match Bulaga and the exact same thing you are being critical of Bulaga for are the same thing Oher had to deal with that year. I do love how you criticize his strength based on what? Even though earlier you clearly pointed out that he dominated "slow, power DE's" so which is it? And you know strength in the upper body is only half the battle.

Lastly his thyroid condition is not an injury per say, its a condition. Nobody knows what it will do in the future. But all his doctors have said that its been cleared up and shouldn't be an issue.

acehole
02-27-2010, 09:03 AM
Mahdi you seem to have gotten served.

Sorry man.


Im sorry but I have to call you out on this because its both a change in your argument and factually incorrect.

First off you said the tape showed Bulaga struggled at times and could be abused, and I asked you where outside of v. Graham. You have yet to show me what game you are talking about, and it appears as though you are trying to use the exception to the rule, rather than the rule itself.

Secondly the fact that only Graham is a pure pass rusher is an insult to the other players and incorrect. Derrick Morgan, Corey Wooten, and O'Brian Schofield are not power ends. Hell Carrington's 40 is only .04 seconds slower than Graham so to say these guys are power rushers is wrong. Schofield is a quicker and faster end then Graham even, so that takes that theory out.

Im still waiting on you to tell me what game tape shows these issues outside of just the Michigan tape? Otherwise you're talking about the exception...oh and to your arm and hand issue. It was never clearer than last year how overrated those measurements are. Oher had 33.25 inch arms and 10.25 inch hands. Which match Bulaga and the exact same thing you are being critical of Bulaga for are the same thing Oher had to deal with that year. I do love how you criticize his strength based on what? Even though earlier you clearly pointed out that he dominated "slow, power DE's" so which is it? And you know strength in the upper body is only half the battle.

Lastly his thyroid condition is not an injury per say, its a condition. Nobody knows what it will do in the future. But all his doctors have said that its been cleared up and shouldn't be an issue.

psubills62
02-27-2010, 09:51 AM
Iowa LT Bryan Bulaga has reportedly impressed during the interview process at the Scouting Combine.

Bulaga's 6'5/315-pound weigh-in was also better than expected, and his arm length is good enough to stay at left tackle in the pros. Opinions seem fairly mixed on Bulaga, but most are positive. He's definitely in the top-ten mix.

Quote from rotoworld.com

It seems to me that Mahdi is using the Vernon Gholston logic against Bulaga. What I mean by that is there were a lot of people talking all about how Gholston dominated Jake Long in one game, which seemed to boost his stock.

Well, in the same way, Bulaga got beaten by Graham in one game and Mahdi wants to use that against him. Judging players based on one game, especially when that player got beat by a really, really good player, is not the way to go imo.

Mahdi
02-27-2010, 10:31 AM
Im sorry but I have to call you out on this because its both a change in your argument and factually incorrect.

First off you said the tape showed Bulaga struggled at times and could be abused, and I asked you where outside of v. Graham. You have yet to show me what game you are talking about, and it appears as though you are trying to use the exception to the rule, rather than the rule itself.

Secondly the fact that only Graham is a pure pass rusher is an insult to the other players and incorrect. Derrick Morgan, Corey Wooten, and O'Brian Schofield are not power ends. Hell Carrington's 40 is only .04 seconds slower than Graham so to say these guys are power rushers is wrong. Schofield is a quicker and faster end then Graham even, so that takes that theory out.

Im still waiting on you to tell me what game tape shows these issues outside of just the Michigan tape? Otherwise you're talking about the exception...oh and to your arm and hand issue. It was never clearer than last year how overrated those measurements are. Oher had 33.25 inch arms and 10.25 inch hands. Which match Bulaga and the exact same thing you are being critical of Bulaga for are the same thing Oher had to deal with that year. I do love how you criticize his strength based on what? Even though earlier you clearly pointed out that he dominated "slow, power DE's" so which is it? And you know strength in the upper body is only half the battle.

Lastly his thyroid condition is not an injury per say, its a condition. Nobody knows what it will do in the future. But all his doctors have said that its been cleared up and shouldn't be an issue.
I said he COULD be abused. And the game I was referring to was Michigan going up against Graham.

IMO, Wootton, Morgan and Schofield are NOT pure pass rushers. So I fully expect Bulaga's superior technique to overcome those guys. Those guys may have decent sack numbers but not pure pass rushers like Brandon Graham. Speed has nothing to do with being a pure pass rusher. Justin Tuck is not that fast.

Bulaga is functionally strong and locks on great but I wouldn't call him a mauler. If you look at the OL Nix typically drafts they are bigger OL who are proficient run blockers.

Now you say that Bulaga has the same size hands and arms which is not true.

Oher had 10 3/8 inch hands and Bulaga has 9/14 inch hands. Now does that mean he is not as good, obviously not, but it is a criteria you evaluate especially for OTs.

At the end of the day, I think Bulaga is the second safest OL prospect in the draft. A guy that will last in the league but I don't think he will be a PB type guy.


Now, I said that I don't think Bulaga is a top 10 pick and I say that because I feel there are players with higher ceilings that should be picked ahead of him.

You act as if our valuations are way off. I think he is top 15-20.

Also, you're going to argue with me that thyroid is not an injury it's a condition... okay well I'll take an injury over a condition. A condition can be lasting a recurring, an injury is usually healed and rehabbed and done with especially these days.

k-oneputt
02-27-2010, 10:38 AM
I'd say that is a good assesment Mahdi.

I see Bulaga as having a solid/good career. 10-12 year guy. More rt then lt. Not pro bowl type player.

Night Train
02-27-2010, 10:47 AM
I mentioned the Graham concern with Bulaga but don't dismiss him. I'm more concerned about the feet and ability to slide outside.

Facing 3-4 D's, you have to worry about edge OLB's who can move a lot faster than DE's.

You better have quickness out of the stance and be able to extend the arms.

Bert102176
02-27-2010, 01:30 PM
I prefer Okung

Bert102176
02-27-2010, 01:37 PM
Baluga is another Mike Williams, just say no

DraftBoy
03-01-2010, 10:02 AM
I said he COULD be abused. And the game I was referring to was Michigan going up against Graham.

IMO, Wootton, Morgan and Schofield are NOT pure pass rushers. So I fully expect Bulaga's superior technique to overcome those guys. Those guys may have decent sack numbers but not pure pass rushers like Brandon Graham. Speed has nothing to do with being a pure pass rusher. Justin Tuck is not that fast.

Bulaga is functionally strong and locks on great but I wouldn't call him a mauler. If you look at the OL Nix typically drafts they are bigger OL who are proficient run blockers.

Now you say that Bulaga has the same size hands and arms which is not true.

Oher had 10 3/8 inch hands and Bulaga has 9/14 inch hands. Now does that mean he is not as good, obviously not, but it is a criteria you evaluate especially for OTs.

At the end of the day, I think Bulaga is the second safest OL prospect in the draft. A guy that will last in the league but I don't think he will be a PB type guy.


Now, I said that I don't think Bulaga is a top 10 pick and I say that because I feel there are players with higher ceilings that should be picked ahead of him.

You act as if our valuations are way off. I think he is top 15-20.

Also, you're going to argue with me that thyroid is not an injury it's a condition... okay well I'll take an injury over a condition. A condition can be lasting a recurring, an injury is usually healed and rehabbed and done with especially these days.

I can buy Wootton but considering both Morgan and Schofield are very deficient against the run what would you call them as DE's?

Also outside of Graham what other "pure pass rushers" are in this class and how are you making your distinctions?

And you still are only using one game in his entire career as proof that you don't think he can be a LT.

Mahdi
03-01-2010, 11:44 AM
I can buy Wootton but considering both Morgan and Schofield are very deficient against the run what would you call them as DE's?

Also outside of Graham what other "pure pass rushers" are in this class and how are you making your distinctions?

And you still are only using one game in his entire career as proof that you don't think he can be a LT.
When did I say he couldn't play LT? He can absolutely play LT. I just think he isn't a top 10 LT.

Morgan is not deficient against the run. Morgan is a pretty solid run defender. He plays with great leverage and power. He is very good at stoning OTs and then shedding to make the tackle on RBs. Not sure how you can say Morgan is deficient against the run.

To me, Morgan is a balanced DE. Good pass rusher, good run defender, good technician. Top 15 pick.

Schofield is kind of a tweener to me, can play OLB in a 4-3, OLB in a 3-4, not very strong run defender.

Other pure pass rushers IMO, Jerry Hughes, Sergio Kindle, Eric Norwood, Jermaine Cunningham, Antonio Coleman .... No particular order although I think the first 3 are more polished.

I consider those guys pure pass rushers for two reasons, quick twitch guys is one and good use of hands and pass rush moves the other.


Guys like Pierre-Paul and Griffen and even Sapp need more work on technique to be considered pure pass rush guys. That being said I think all 3 go ahead of the pure pass rush guys I mentioned. Dunlap and Morgan are solid overall DEs. I would consider Morgan to be very similar to Will Smith of the Saints, and Dunlap like a Calais Campbell with a bit more athletic ability.

DraftBoy
03-01-2010, 11:59 AM
When did I say he couldn't play LT? He can absolutely play LT. I just think he isn't a top 10 LT.

Morgan is not deficient against the run. Morgan is a pretty solid run defender. He plays with great leverage and power. He is very good at stoning OTs and then shedding to make the tackle on RBs. Not sure how you can say Morgan is deficient against the run.

To me, Morgan is a balanced DE. Good pass rusher, good run defender, good technician. Top 15 pick.

Schofield is kind of a tweener to me, can play OLB in a 4-3, OLB in a 3-4, not very strong run defender.

Other pure pass rushers IMO, Jerry Hughes, Sergio Kindle, Eric Norwood, Jermaine Cunningham, Antonio Coleman .... No particular order although I think the first 3 are more polished.

I consider those guys pure pass rushers for two reasons, quick twitch guys is one and good use of hands and pass rush moves the other.


Guys like Pierre-Paul and Griffen and even Sapp need more work on technique to be considered pure pass rush guys. That being said I think all 3 go ahead of the pure pass rush guys I mentioned. Dunlap and Morgan are solid overall DEs. I would consider Morgan to be very similar to Will Smith of the Saints, and Dunlap like a Calais Campbell with a bit more athletic ability.

My mistake then on you saying Bulaga is not a LT, a mis read on my part. You still are basing your assertion that he is not top 10, based on one game out of his 30 career games at Iowa. I agree his ability to handle edge rushers is a concern but the fact that he handled Wootton, Schofield, and Morgan with ease shows me that the Graham incident was more of one bad game than indicative of a reoccurring problem.

Morgan is very deficient against the run, he's far worse at it than a guy like Graham is. He can be run at and controlled. His best attribute v. the run is when he can get by his OT with a pass rush move and get inside for a TFL. Look at how teams like Georgia, Miami, and Clemson (ACC title game) were able to run at will to Morgan's side with little threat of being stopped, in those games Morgan combined for;
7.5 Tackles, 1 TFL, and 0 Sacks.

Teams very easily can run on Derrick Morgan, I dont know how you see that as a strength of his in anyway.

As for Schofield not being a quick twitch athlete, Id like to know what you're basing that off of. None of the other pure pass rushers are good run defenders, and Schofield is just as fast/quick as most of them if not all of them (prior to his knee injury).

Mahdi
03-01-2010, 01:09 PM
My mistake then on you saying Bulaga is not a LT, a mis read on my part. You still are basing your assertion that he is not top 10, based on one game out of his 30 career games at Iowa. I agree his ability to handle edge rushers is a concern but the fact that he handled Wootton, Schofield, and Morgan with ease shows me that the Graham incident was more of one bad game than indicative of a reoccurring problem.

Morgan is very deficient against the run, he's far worse at it than a guy like Graham is. He can be run at and controlled. His best attribute v. the run is when he can get by his OT with a pass rush move and get inside for a TFL. Look at how teams like Georgia, Miami, and Clemson (ACC title game) were able to run at will to Morgan's side with little threat of being stopped, in those games Morgan combined for;
7.5 Tackles, 1 TFL, and 0 Sacks.

Teams very easily can run on Derrick Morgan, I dont know how you see that as a strength of his in anyway.

As for Schofield not being a quick twitch athlete, Id like to know what you're basing that off of. None of the other pure pass rushers are good run defenders, and Schofield is just as fast/quick as most of them if not all of them (prior to his knee injury).
Schofield is quick twitch for sure.... I just didn't list him there. My point with him is I can see him playing 4-3 OLB also. I can also see him as a 3-4 OLB and being a very good pass rusher.

DraftBoy
03-01-2010, 01:15 PM
Schofield is quick twitch for sure.... I just didn't list him there. My point with him is I can see him playing 4-3 OLB also. I can also see him as a 3-4 OLB and being a very good pass rusher.


I see him more like Aaron Maybin, not a 4-3 OLB at all, but definitely a 3-4 Rush LB.

Mahdi
03-01-2010, 01:16 PM
I see him more like Aaron Maybin, not a 4-3 OLB at all, but definitely a 3-4 Rush LB.
Same was said of Clint Sintim last year but the Giants grabbed him as a 4-3 OLB.

No reason why Scho can't succeed in both systems.

PECKERWOOD
03-01-2010, 01:17 PM
Baluga is another Mike Williams, just say no

How so? Bulaga is a true freshman, he is already a solid technician and he is only 20 years old. He is considered to be a very safe pick, plus there is still potential for him to improve.

DraftBoy
03-01-2010, 01:22 PM
Same was said of Clint Sintim last year but the Giants grabbed him as a 4-3 OLB.

No reason why Scho can't succeed in both systems.

Not it wasn't plus the bodies are different. Sintim is over 20 pound heavier and played both 4-3 OLB and 3-4 OLB at UVA.

Sintim (at least by my reports) was seen as a versatile prospect as a 4-3 DE, 4-3 OLB, and 3-4 OLB.

I dont see Schofield as the same type of prospect, he doesn't operate well in space like Sintim does. I think we both really like Sintim last season coming out.

Bill Cody
03-01-2010, 02:22 PM
Baluga is another Mike Williams, just say no

Yes, other than Buluga doesn't have a wieght issue, doesn't have a motivation issue, has proven he can play LT, and has superior technique, they're practically twins separated at birth.

TigerJ
03-01-2010, 10:46 PM
And lack of starting experience, and the fact that he's only ever played in a ZBS and would have to learn an entire new scheme, terminology, and assignments.That's certainly an issue, but if he's coachable and willing to work, that lack can be overcome with time. The injury bug may be intrinsic to the guy.