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  • Night Train
    Retired - On Several Levels
    • Jul 2005
    • 33117

    Cards NT Gabe Watson - 2nd Round Tender - Calling Buddy Nix

    Watson isn't a pass rusher at all but I never expect that from a 3-4 NT.. He does beat the double team at the LOS and make tackles on the RB. He takes away the middle running lanes.

    A strong 330 NT is a way to fill a major need before the draft. Liked him coming out of Michigan in 2006 and he lasted until the 4th round.

    Recent grade from the Cards website - B

    Gabe Watson: Grade: B
    Overall: As a run stopper, Watson was the most productive defensive tackle for the Cardinals in 2009. He actually piled up a relatively impressive number of solo tackles (22) considering the amount of snaps he played (359). In other words, Watson made a solo tackle in 6.12% of his snaps. For some context, Kelly Gregg (Ravens) posted the best tackle/snap percentage (8.20%), while Kevin Williams (Vikings) posted the worst (1.95%). As a pass rusher, however, Watson was well below average; he failed to post a sack and only pressured the quarterback twice in 2009.
    The Regular Season Numbers: 0.0 sacks; 2 QB pressures; 0 QB hits; 22 solo tackles; 6 assists; 0 batted passes. Best Performance: Week 14 against San Francisco: 3 tackles; 3 assists.


    Make him a good offer and see if the Cards are willing to match it. We already know he's a proven NFL run stuffing NT.
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  • T-Long
    Circling the Wagons since 1982.
    • Sep 2003
    • 3848

    #2
    Re: Cards NT Gabe Watson - 2nd Round Tender - Calling Buddy Nix

    Absolutely. I remember watching Watson for the Wolverines. He is DEFINITELY worth a 2nd round pick. Come on Buddy...now this scenario def. makes the most sense.

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    • BillsWin
      man amongst boys
      • Oct 2008
      • 6025

      #3
      Re: Cards NT Gabe Watson - 2nd Round Tender - Calling Buddy Nix

      Get it done! Then swap first round picks, give a 3rd and Whitner to Detroit for the 2nd pick. Hello Sam Bradford.

      I am The Batman.

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      • Don't Panic
        All-Pro Zoner
        • Dec 2005
        • 4227

        #4
        Re: Cards NT Gabe Watson - 2nd Round Tender - Calling Buddy Nix

        Originally posted by BillsWin
        Get it done! Then swap first round picks, give a 3rd and Whitner to Detroit for the 2nd pick. Hello Sam Bradford.

        ...or grab a LT at #9 and know that you just fixed the two biggest troubles on each line.

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        • Night Train
          Retired - On Several Levels
          • Jul 2005
          • 33117

          #5
          Re: Cards NT Gabe Watson - 2nd Round Tender - Calling Buddy Nix

          Originally posted by Carpetbagger
          ...or grab a LT at #9 and know that you just fixed the two biggest troubles on each line.
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          • tampabay25690
            Registered User
            • Feb 2004
            • 9670

            #6
            Re: Cards NT Gabe Watson - 2nd Round Tender - Calling Buddy Nix

            Originally posted by Carpetbagger
            ...or grab a LT at #9 and know that you just fixed the two biggest troubles on each line.
            Well said.
            i agree 100%
            GO Gators!!!!!!
            GO GATORS!!

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            • ChristopherWalken
              Registered User
              • Dec 2002
              • 1026

              #7
              Re: Cards NT Gabe Watson - 2nd Round Tender - Calling Buddy Nix

              I don't know how they couldn't push to make this happen. Tricky part is offering enough to have the Cards turn their back on the offer but not too much that the Bills break the bank to get him. Although, I'm not sure they have many other opportunities and breaking the bank may be the only viable option.

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              • NOT THE DUDE...
                Hall of Fame Zoner
                • Jan 2010
                • 8826

                #8
                Re: Cards NT Gabe Watson - 2nd Round Tender - Calling Buddy Nix

                would rather have terrence cody or cam thomas in rd 2

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                • NOT THE DUDE...
                  Hall of Fame Zoner
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 8826

                  #9
                  Re: Cards NT Gabe Watson - 2nd Round Tender - Calling Buddy Nix

                  or dan williams in rd 1

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                  • WeAreArthurMoates
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 1642

                    #10
                    Re: Cards NT Gabe Watson - 2nd Round Tender - Calling Buddy Nix

                    Ya lets do it, I want Linval Joesph and theyre similar players.

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                    • Midwesternbillsfan
                      Registered User
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 207

                      #11
                      Re: Cards NT Gabe Watson - 2nd Round Tender - Calling Buddy Nix

                      I realize it doesn't tell the whole story, but I'm a little reticent to trade a high 2nd for a player who hasn't made a start since 2007 and is so one-dimensional. Yes, it's rare for a 34 nose to generate much of a pass rush- there aren't many NT's w/the unique ability of a Shaun Rodgers, obviously- but I don't think Watson is exceptional enough as a run-stuffer to discount what he doesn't offer- at all- pressuring the QB. It may be a consideration- and I realize there's the risk that we may miss out on the desirable NT's (Williams; Cody; Thomas)- but I think our 2nd is too valuable for Watson. If Arizona would be willing to barter and accept a 3rd, it's a more palatable proposal, IMO, and would also provide a bit more of a luxury w/our first two selections since we'd certainly a tackle with one of them but could potentially go BPA available with the other one (with perhaps an emphasis on QB; WR; OLB; ILB).
                      Last edited by Midwesternbillsfan; 03-03-2010, 08:39 PM.

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                      • TigerJ
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 22575

                        #12
                        Re: Cards NT Gabe Watson - 2nd Round Tender - Calling Buddy Nix

                        There are worse acquisitions the Bills could make.
                        I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

                        I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.

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                        • DraftBoy
                          Administrator
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 107442

                          #13
                          Re: Cards NT Gabe Watson - 2nd Round Tender - Calling Buddy Nix

                          I have to agree with Midwestern here, keep in mind Watson's scouting report coming out of college, lazy, unconditioned player. He is not a traditional starter for a reason, a 2nd round pick is a hefty price to pay for a 2 down only player.
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                          • Night Train
                            Retired - On Several Levels
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 33117

                            #14
                            Re: Cards NT Gabe Watson - 2nd Round Tender - Calling Buddy Nix

                            Originally posted by DraftBoy
                            I have to agree with Midwestern here, keep in mind Watson's scouting report coming out of college, lazy, unconditioned player. He is not a traditional starter for a reason, a 2nd round pick is a hefty price to pay for a 2 down only player.
                            Good points and I may agree with that, if the Bills only had 1-2 positions we needed to fill in the starting lineup & for depth.

                            Our needs are far greater and the draft cannot possibly answer all our needs. NT,LT,DE, multiple LB's, QB, WR and on and on...

                            A 2nd round tender is roughly 1.76 Mil and granted, a starting point in negotiations. We can pay Fitzpatrick just under 3 Mil to be a backup QB, Josh Reed 3.1 Mil, Roscoe 2.5 Mil, etc..

                            I'm saying consider offering the guy about 6.5-7.5 Mil for 3 years and solve a need. That's not outrageous. Spencer Johnson makes that now and he's been a solid rotational player.

                            I'd like NT Dan Williams in the Draft.. if we had a LT. Waiting until Round 2 for a LT could be a dangerous, losing gamble. Not sure a good NT is going to be available then either. I see UCF's Troup being mentioned and his scouting report reads " Sits in obvious pass situations ". Big jump from Central Florida to the pro's.

                            Any out there in FA or someone we could tender ? What about all the other holes ?

                            Color me skeptical of " the draft solves all ". We're reading profiles of unproven NFL talent and have multiple needs.
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                            • colin
                              Drew's my hero!
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 2491

                              #15
                              Re: Cards NT Gabe Watson - 2nd Round Tender - Calling Buddy Nix

                              roscoe or donte for him (donte means they give us a 4th as well or something) would work.

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