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SABURZFAN
03-05-2010, 09:14 PM
now that i have your attention, i'd like to know if you'd be for it or against it.


discuss.....
Dr. Lecter
03-05-2010, 09:15 PM
now that i have your attention, i'd like to know if you'd be for it or against it.


discuss.....

100% against it. The Bills have exactly one starting LB on their roster right now - Poz. They can't trade him.
BuffaloBlitz83
03-05-2010, 09:16 PM
I'd deal him for a 2nd and 5th
T-Long
03-05-2010, 09:17 PM
no freaking way
BuffaloBlitz83
03-05-2010, 09:19 PM
100% against it. The Bills have exactly one starting LB on their roster right now - Poz. They can't trade him.

Draft Spikesand Jamar Chaney
OpIv37
03-05-2010, 09:21 PM
I'm no big fan of Poz but a) his value is low and b) we're desperately short on LB's at the moment. Trading him at this point would be stupid.
Dr. Lecter
03-05-2010, 09:23 PM
Draft Spikesand Jamar Chaney

Who are the other two LBs?

The Bills have no LBs on the roster except for Poz. They literally have only one other ILB in Mitchell and he needs to go way before Poz
PECKERWOOD
03-05-2010, 09:26 PM
Sure, for a 1st round pick, if not then piss off.
JCBills
03-05-2010, 10:45 PM
Worst possible move the Bills could make, you want your weak ILB to be able to cover, and Poz is a top 10 MLB as far as coverage goes.
Northern Stampede
03-06-2010, 01:25 AM
No way!
Michael82
03-06-2010, 01:31 AM
No way in hell! He's our best LB and will probably shine in a 3-4. If anything, I would give him a new long term contract!
SaviorEdwards
03-06-2010, 02:19 AM
You have to keep him just as a draw alone. there are a lot of polish people in WNY and thats why he's so overrated among the Bills fans. Nice player, but vastly overrated among the 716ers.
PECKERWOOD
03-06-2010, 02:59 AM
You have to keep him just as a draw alone. there are a lot of polish people in WNY and thats why he's so overrated among the Bills fans. Nice player, but vastly overrated among the 716ers.

I'm Irish by the way, no Polish blood in my body. Posluszny is a gamer, I want him to be in Buffalo for a very long time.
Dujek
03-06-2010, 03:13 AM
Poz plays hard every game, my only worry over him would be his durability.

I certainly wouldn't trade him.
malo
03-06-2010, 06:21 AM
He probably had no trade value. We're stuck with him.
YardRat
03-06-2010, 06:24 AM
I'm certainly not a fan of The POS, but I'd like to keep him around one more season at least to see if he can be effective in a 34.
SquishDaFish
03-06-2010, 07:18 AM
Hell no he needs to stay.
djjimkelly
03-06-2010, 07:21 AM
sadly there isnt anyone on this roster that makes me feel like this person has to be here.


so right price bye bye poz
mybills
03-06-2010, 07:43 AM
I'm certainly not a fan of The POS, but I'd like to keep him around one more season at least to see if he can be effective in a 3-4.
Ditto - word for word.
better days
03-06-2010, 08:06 AM
sadly there isnt anyone on this roster that makes me feel like this person has to be here.


so right price bye bye poz

I agree. There are no players on this team I would not trade, but the price has to be right. I would want a 1st for Poz & I doubt any team would pay that.
shelby
03-06-2010, 08:08 AM
NO.
Night Train
03-06-2010, 08:22 AM
Poz is someone I need to see for a year as an ILB in the 3-4. He could actually provide a middle blitz but doesn't have the range to play OLB.

Mitchell is the one that needs to prove something or he may be cut in camp. I've seen too many injuries and arm tackles from him.
wozrob11
03-06-2010, 12:21 PM
worst post ever
SirMcGee
03-06-2010, 02:53 PM
I was never a fan of him college. never a fan of him in the NFL. This guy is an average LB. He just looks good cuz our other LBs suck ballz.
JCBills
03-06-2010, 05:41 PM
I was never a fan of him college. never a fan of him in the NFL. This guy is an average LB. He just looks good cuz our other LBs suck ballz.

In 2008, Poz's average yds allowed when making a tackle was just over 3. He graded out as the 9th best MLB/ILB, and actually the 2nd best 4-3 MLB to Fletcher. I'm not sure how you don't remember, because you must not watch the Bills, Poz had 45 stuffs that year.

This past year he moved up to 7th MLB/ILB, with #6 and #5 playing less than 600 snaps, and graded as the #1 4-3 MLB, Fletcher slipped to #3.
TacklingDummy
03-06-2010, 06:10 PM
now that i have your attention, i'd like to know if you'd be for it or against it.


discuss.....He's a bust due mostly to injury.

If they could get a early 2nd round pick then trade him.
SirMcGee
03-06-2010, 06:10 PM
In 2008, Poz's average yds allowed when making a tackle was just over 3. He graded out as the 9th best MLB/ILB, and actually the 2nd best 4-3 MLB to Fletcher. I'm not sure how you don't remember, because you must not watch the Bills, Poz had 45 stuffs that year.

This past year he moved up to 7th MLB/ILB, with #6 and #5 playing less than 600 snaps, and graded as the #1 4-3 MLB, Fletcher slipped to #3.

And all these rankings are based on what? Best 43 ILB? Considering that the best defenses in the league play a 34 and have the best defensive players, thats not saying much. 2nd best 43 MLB? LOL. Compare him to every other MLB/ILB in the league and he'd rank as being average. LIKE i said. An AVERAGE LB.

And considering we don't play a 43 defense anymore, your argument is not valid.
JCBills
03-06-2010, 06:14 PM
And all these rankings are based on what? Best 43 ILB? Considering that the best defenses in the league play a 34 and have the best defensive players, thats not saying much. 2nd best 43 MLB? LOL. Compare him to every other MLB/ILB in the league and he'd rank as being average. LIKE i said. An AVERAGE LB.
My rankings are based on football metrics, your opinion is based on slanted views.

Just because you don't understand metric values doesn't mean they don't apply, and are a much better measure than personal opinion.

The Vikings, Giants, Titans, Redskins, and Eagles have all put out top notch 4-3 units over the past few seasons, so that statement holds no ground.

He was compared to every other MLB/ILB in the league, and like I said, placed 7th overall and #1 for a 4-3 MLB.

How is it not valid? He posted these numbers while playing in the 4-3, so it was showing that despite the majority of ignorant/oblivious fans, he's one hell of a player.
SaviorEdwards
03-06-2010, 06:53 PM
I missed the game, but how tackles did Poz have in the pro bowl?
SABURZFAN
03-06-2010, 06:59 PM
No way in hell! He's our best LB and will probably shine in a 3-4. If anything, I would give him a new long term contract!


so you're willing to overpay somebody who breaks his arm every other year?
BertSquirtgum
03-06-2010, 09:02 PM
i would much rather keep him and not have him in the middle. we need a star middle linebacker not just an average linebacker holding down the middle. i think mcclain could be that guy.
JCBills
03-06-2010, 09:11 PM
i would much rather keep him and not have him in the middle. we need a star middle linebacker not just an average linebacker holding down the middle. i think mcclain could be that guy.

McClain can play two ILB spots? Amazing!

I don't know why people continue to hold onto things that have been proven wrong. But hey, everyone knows tunnel-vision inspired opinions trump fact, it's science.
Mad Bomber
03-06-2010, 09:31 PM
NO.
psubills62
03-06-2010, 09:33 PM
Haha you happy with the results of your thread, Sab?

It seems to me most people don't want to trade away a guy who created 6 turnovers in the last year (playing 12 games).
BertSquirtgum
03-06-2010, 09:40 PM
McClain can play two ILB spots? Amazing!

I don't know why people continue to hold onto things that have been proven wrong. But hey, everyone knows tunnel-vision inspired opinions trump fact, it's science.

i'm dumb. i forgot they are switching to the 3-4. still living in 2009.
wmoz11
03-06-2010, 09:41 PM
i'm dumb. i forgot they are switching to the 3-4. still living in 2009.

I wish we were living in 1991.
psubills62
03-06-2010, 09:42 PM
i'm dumb. i forgot they are switching to the 3-4. still living in 2009.

Looks like you were on vacation for more than just a couple days :up:
SABURZFAN
03-07-2010, 02:49 AM
Haha you happy with the results of your thread, Sab?

It seems to me most people don't want to trade away a guy who created 6 turnovers in the last year (playing 12 games).


yeah.... at least some people had legit reasons with different opinions.


too bad he can't string back to back 16 games played in a season.
wmoz11
03-07-2010, 03:11 AM
yeah.... at least some people had legit reasons with different opinions.


too bad he can't string back to back 16 games played in a season.

If you were serious with this thread, then you are a complete moron.

BTW, Poz has played 28/32 games the last two years.
SABURZFAN
03-07-2010, 03:56 AM
If you were serious with this thread, then you are a complete moron.

BTW, Poz has played 28/32 games the last two years.


you should take a look in the mirror.

it'll be interesting to see if he can play a full season this upcoming year.
Buddo
03-07-2010, 05:52 AM
Injuries aside, the guy is a solid football player. He also wants to play all the time. I'll give him credit for getting back after just missing 4 games last year, and he didn't look like he'd been away at all to be fair.
Providing he can avoid further injuries, I suspect he'll have a London Fletcher like career. Everyone will think he's a good player, but not quite a pro-bowler.
His weakness is his lack of ability to penetrate a defense on his own. He does seem at times, to play a lot faster than he looks.
I'm not so sure that there isn't a 'price' for anyone on this current roster, but in Poz case, it should be at least a 2nd rounder, and maybe more.
I don't think it would be a good move to trade him though. I don't know how the switch to the 3-4 will affect him tbh, but apart from that, I see a player who is regularly improving year to year, and I don't think you can ask for more than that.
psubills62
03-07-2010, 12:37 PM
yeah.... at least some people had legit reasons with different opinions.


too bad he can't string back to back 16 games played in a season.
I know what you're saying, but he's only played 3 seasons. If you were saying that about an 8-year veteran, it would indeed be a little strange that they couldn't put together back to back 16 game seasons. But a guy who's played three years has only had two chances to have back-to-back full seasons. As one person pointed out, he's only missed 4.5 games in the last two years. Is it really that hard to believe that he'll be a major contributor from here on out?
New Ro's Greatest
03-07-2010, 12:39 PM
Everybody on this team is tradeable. It all depends on what we would get back for me to be on board. GO BILLS:crack:
SABURZFAN
03-07-2010, 01:43 PM
I know what you're saying, but he's only played 3 seasons. If you were saying that about an 8-year veteran, it would indeed be a little strange that they couldn't put together back to back 16 game seasons. But a guy who's played three years has only had two chances to have back-to-back full seasons. As one person pointed out, he's only missed 4.5 games in the last two years. Is it really that hard to believe that he'll be a major contributor from here on out?


yes. the fragile label is in the back of the minds of some Bills fans.