I just heard the Bills signed COrnell Green

[patmoran2006]

To a three year deal, and if I heard the dollar amount correctly, I think some of you may get sick.

[TrEd FTW]

No dollar amount needed. I'm already feeling sick over the acquisition of Cornell ***** Green. He's horrible.

[patmoran2006]

I am waiting for confirmation, which as this point doesnt matter since I'll look like a horse's ass for posting this regardless if hes not signed.

[T-Long]

There is nothing wrong with signing OT depth. The salary is going to show us if they look at him as a starter or not...then we can throw up.

[The Spaz]

Just got that tweet Pat. He's signed. NFL Network just said it.

[patmoran2006]

Just got that tweet Pat. He's signed.
My Tweet? or from someone else

[BILLSROCK1212]

oy vey

[patmoran2006]

yeah.. 3 year, and I heard $9 million.

I really hope that salary is not right.

[BILLSROCK1212]

yeah.. 3 year, and I heard $9 million.

I really hope that salary is not right.
Artis Hicks??

[Buddo]

http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/03/08/bills-add-depth-on-o-line-sign-green/

3 years, $9 million

[The Spaz]

My Tweet? or from someone else

Someone else.

[SquishDaFish]

Jason La Canfora, of the NFL (http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nfl) Network, reports the Buffalo Bills (http://www.kffl.com/team/9/nfl) have signed unrestricted free-agent OT Cornell Green (http://www.kffl.com/player/1040/nfl) (Raiders) to a three-year deal worth $9 million, according to a source.

Read more: http://www.kffl.com/hotw/NFL?page=0#ixzz0hcnj8AfS

[patmoran2006]

Well, there ya go. "big name" confirmation

Cornell Green is a Bill.

[Buddo]

The only thing with this that strikes me, is someone said earlier, he's actually a good run blocker, although a mediocre pass blocker. If that is the case (I really don't know jack about the guy), then it's a distinct sign of a 'run first' approach.
You have to assume he's slotted to start at RT for that money.

[BILLSROCK1212]

The only thing with this that strikes me, is someone said earlier, he's actually a good run blocker, although a mediocre pass blocker. If that is the case (I really don't know jack about the guy), then it's a distinct sign of a 'run first' approach.
You have to assume he's slotted to start at RT for that money.
I would hope that him and Wade Smith become our top backups and then we draft someone to start.

[EDS]

http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/03/08/bills-add-depth-on-o-line-sign-green/

3 years, $9 million

Why give a 33 year old tackle a 3 year deal?

[Buddo]

I would hope that him and Wade Smith become our top backups and then we draft someone to start.

I'm not going to argue that point. ;)
Just seems as though the money, considering his age, is top heavy for just a backup.

[YardRat]

I'm not impressed with the signing, but the salary really isn't that bad if they plan on him starting for at least a season. Would like to see the bonus vs salary.

Dude is 34 :sad:

[T-Long]

that is definitely starter money. Either Wood is being moved to center or they don't expect him to be ready.

[patmoran2006]

Id really like to see us also get Wade Smith back here. I researched him and clearly changed my mind.. Outstanding depth guy capable of giving you efficient starts if needed is what I was told several times.

[SABURZFAN]

well.... i guess they upgraded the RT position. that's a start on the offense. getting a WR to compliment Evans would be nice too. Kelley Washington doesn't cut it in my eyes.

[The Spaz]

We better get Wade Smith too.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

very good signing, only let up 2 sacks and that was with jamarcus russell. i think he can start for us for 2 years. he is 33 so like i said this is a 2 year starter for us. better than butler. good signing

[YardRat]

that is definitely starter money. Either Wood is being moved to center or they don't expect him to be ready.

Tackle, not guard.

[patmoran2006]

And honestly, Im glad its over so we can get after the next name, whoever the hell that may be.

I couldn't have stomached days of Cornell Green debate.

[patmoran2006]

very good signing, only let up 2 sacks and that was with jamarcus russell. i think he can start for us for 2 years. he is 33 so like i said this is a 2 year starter for us. better than butler. good signing

he let up 6.5 sacks, had 7 false starts and 12 total penalties in 12 games last year, according to Stats.com

[patmoran2006]

We better get Wade Smith too.

What he said.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Why would I care about his salary? It isn't coming out of my pocket book.

[Mahdi]

Good run blocker. Horrible pass blocker. Old.

[SABURZFAN]

We better get Wade Smith too.


that would make the OL situation better than it was.

[tampabay25690]

Well we will see what he has.....
Good move though.

[trapezeus]

i'd be more interested in watching the bills give $9MM back to the season ticket holders for putting this ****e team out on the field each week and not sign green.

[WeAreArthurMoates]

3 mil a year is about right for a swing tackle that could start. It's not the 5 yr 25 mil deal we gave to walker.

[THATHURMANATOR]

he let up 6.5 sacks, had 7 false starts and 12 total penalties in 12 games last year, according to Stats.com
So which is it?

[T-Long]

Tackle, not guard.
Brain fart there. The article I just wrote I have him as replacing Butler. My bad.

[THATHURMANATOR]

i'd be more interested in watching the bills give $9MM back to the season ticket holders for putting this ****e team out on the field each week and not sign green.
Oh enough already. Don't go to the games then...

[WeAreArthurMoates]

he let up 6.5 sacks, had 7 false starts and 12 total penalties in 12 games last year, according to Stats.com

I got 5 sacks from profootballfocus.com, a very good website.

[patmoran2006]

http://hosted.stats.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=5370&team=13

Stats,inc report on Green
(Close your eyes about the domestic stuff, the stats are bad enough)

[patmoran2006]

also made some website's 2009 All Criminal team.

http://www.celebjihad.com/celeb-jihad/the-2009-nfl-all-criminal-team

[THATHURMANATOR]

What is a good amount of sacks to give up?

[Aliceinchainsbills15]

To a three year deal, and if I heard the dollar amount correctly, I think some of you may get sick.
source?

[Night Train]

So he basically inherited Butlers old contract.

Whatever. I don't know much about him and certainly won't listen to the imaginary know it alls here.

Next..

[Aliceinchainsbills15]

source?
Nevermind it's confirmed.

[jdbillsfan]

also made some website's 2009 All Criminal team.

http://www.celebjihad.com/celeb-jihad/the-2009-nfl-all-criminal-team


Ouch. Terrible.

[BILLSROCK1212]

Guys, usually I'm optimistic about our signings, but this one is beyond pathetic!!

[trapezeus]

Oh enough already. Don't go to the games then...

oh enough already, stop pretending these moves are any good.

The guy is a bum. i have already admitted i'm fine with a 2-14 season as long as a new core starts to emerge.

The holier than thou bills fan who has a stronger appetite for piss poor football is getting old.

[Captain Obvious]

Oh enough already. Don't go to the games then...

I know its way to early to be predicting how many games the Bills will win in 2010 but you feel like the Bills have the potential/posibility of winning 10 games?

[methos4ever]

3 years, 9 million and we have no idea of what's is guaranteed. So no need to get sick folks.

[hammerbillsfan]

:shoothead:

[Michael82]

It's better than nothing! :up:

[SABURZFAN]

What is a good amount of sacks to give up?


none

[Dicknoze69]

3 years, 9 million and we have no idea of what's is guaranteed. So no need to get sick folks.

This. 3 years, $9 million in the NFL does not necessarily mean $3 million each year. He could make 750k in year one and the rest in years 2-3, which implies he gets cut before the big amount is due, which is a common tactic agents use to look good. Before seeing a detailed report of when the salary is what, don't freak out about it.

[X-Era]

Green adds depth and could start if there's an in jury. We need vet depth. I don't see this as the final answer at RT, and Im thinking the Bills dont either.

I don't think hes horrible. I think hes better day one than at least Scott and probably Meredith. He isn't a stud, hes a second tier guy, that's the type that the Bills sign, just our style.

What it is is more of the same.

[Mr. Miyagi]

He got us by the balls. We have no tackle.

At least it's not Dockery money. :ill:

[DraftBoy]

Money isn't that bad, jesus people freak out about everything.

Do I win something though for predicting the Cornell Green signing?

[Slim]

Money isn't that bad, jesus people freak out about everything.

Do I win something though for predicting the Cornell Green signing?

Good call. Very random player.

[Scumbag College]

Honestly, the OT pool left out there isn't that great. The Bills needed an upgrade at both tackle positions desperately, and they got one. He's not Anthony Munoz, but he's started in the NFL. The Bills started some tackles in 2009 that shouldn't have been in the league.

[The Jokeman]

I love the irony that we signed a guy to potentially replace Langston Walker who replaced Walker in Oakland because we signed Walker but the Raiders were able to let this guy walk because they were able to re-sign Walker after we released Walker. In other words one step forward, two steps back.

[Slim]

http://www.buffalobills.com/media-lounge/videos/

Cornell Green interview with Chris Brown.

[madness]

I love the irony that we signed a guy to potentially replace Langston Walker who replaced Walker in Oakland because we signed Walker but the Raiders were able to let this guy walk because they were able to re-sign Walker after we released Walker. In other words one step forward, two steps back.

Actually Walker replaced Green after he went down with an injury and the Raiders tried to re-sign Green before the end of the season.

[Demon]

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Yeah, because theres tons of linemen flocking to Buffalo for $3 million a season in an uncapped year who are studs and allow 0 sacks.

We are who are we. We are a desperate team who will look to sign desperate football player and hope they all work out.

[Tatonka]

the guy doesnt even know who fred jackson is.. "the other running back here"...

he was a back up scrub until getting to the raiders.. and then became a starter on a terrible line..

great..

[Philagape]

According to AP, Green has been told he'll be the starting RT

[SABURZFAN]

Yeah, because theres tons of linemen flocking to Buffalo for $3 million a season in an uncapped year who are studs and allow 0 sacks.

We are who are we. We are a desperate team who will look to sign desperate football player and hope they all work out.


i was just being honest.


i'm not mad about this signing. doesn't seem too expensive if he starts 16 games for a couple of years.

[Aliceinchainsbills15]

C.H.E.A.P...That's the Bills for you.

[superbills]

If there was any doubt left, we can put a fork in the Michael Vick talk with this signing as well. NO way you have this guy protecting your quarterback's blind-side.

[clumping platelets]

3 yrs - $9 million for a starting RT is not a bad number. Also, it could be structured with a bogus 3rd yr that won't be paid and thus, make the deal worth much less.

[bigbub2352]

cheap horrible move
raiders are worse than us?
unreal
so sad

[ChristopherWalken]

Well, good news is he played all 16 games (started 3) for the 2002 Super Bowl Bucs. Help open holes for Alstot and Pittman as well as held a pocket for the never allusive Brad Johnson. That's where the good news ends and the mediocre begins...

...he had only 5 more starts the following year only to fall of the radar all together. Went to Denver than back to Tampa before finding some good playing time in Oakland.

For a 12 year vet he doesn't have a lot of tread on the tires but he's no spring chicken either.

His contract is probably back loaded and he'll more than likely only hang around long enough until Wood returns.

[JCBills]

The only thing with this that strikes me, is someone said earlier, he's actually a good run blocker, although a mediocre pass blocker. If that is the case (I really don't know jack about the guy), then it's a distinct sign of a 'run first' approach.
You have to assume he's slotted to start at RT for that money.

He has posted positive numbers for metric run value for 3 years straight, so I guess that's one way of looking at it in a good light.

[BillsFanCupp38]

yeah.. 3 year, and I heard $9 million.

I really hope that salary is not right.

Thats chump change... I am completely satsified with that.

[Ground Chuck]

To all the complainers....WTF should we do?

If Butler hadn't retired, we probably wouldn't have had to sign this guy.

This guy fills one of our many holes at a not so bad price. Let's move on.

[Philagape]

To all the complainers....WTF should we do?

If Butler hadn't retired, we probably wouldn't have had to sign this guy.

This guy fills one of our many holes at a not so bad price. Let's move on.

The hole is filled only if he plays well enough. I'm hoping some 4th-round draft pick beats him out.

[YardRat]

He's starting at RT, barring injury....bank it.

[YardRat]

http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/sports/atlanta-109478-nfl-agency.html


An expensive steak dinner he couldn't finish and an offer he couldn't refuse were enough to convince veteran offensive tackle Cornell Green to sign with the Buffalo Bills.

A night after being wined and dined by the Bills, Green signed a three-year contract on Monday, the team's first addition three days into the NFL's free agency period.


Listed at 6-foot-6 and 315 pounds, Green said he's been told he'll be the team's new starting right tackle, taking over the position after Brad Butler retired last month. Green's a 10-year NFL veteran, who spent the past three seasons as the Oakland Raiders starting right tackle. Financial terms were not available.


"I'm glad to have an opportunity to play over here. There's a proud history of tradition here," said Green during a teleconference call shortly after signing his contract. "I had opportunities to visit a couple of more teams, but at the end of the day, man, Buffalo made me feel real comfortable."


Green then joked about the steak he couldn't finish during a fancy dinner he had with team officials at a Buffalo steakhouse shortly after he arrived in town on Sunday.


"I couldn't finish it. I tried, man," Green said. "They had so many appetizers and all the other stuff, at the end of the day, that steak was putting me over the top."

[don137]

Unfortunately until the Bills turn the ship around players are not going to want to play here unless the Bills overpay and pay serious coin. This is about on par to what I expeced. They need to fill the void aty RT and can not address every need out there in the draft.
One thing in his defense is the Raiders were always behind in games so the team was often in passing siutations so the defense could tee up and go after the QB which makes it very hard when the defense knows what you are doing.
I am not thrilled nor am I disappointed. The money is not bad so I guess at the end of the day it is what I expected.

[mysticsoto]

I don't understand what happened with getting a guy like Tony Pashos??? And does this mean they are moving Meredith to LT? I thought he was looking good for our future? Is Bell still going to play LT? We've all been talking about drafting a LT, but I'm starting to wonder now...we had decent RTs on the team and really needed a LT...but with this signing, I'm starting to think one of what we have will become LT now. I'm not sure who/what we will be drafting now...maybe they go BPA?

[Mahdi]

I don't understand what happened with getting a guy like Tony Pashos??? And does this mean they are moving Meredith to LT? I thought he was looking good for our future? Is Bell still going to play LT? We've all been talking about drafting a LT, but I'm starting to wonder now...we had decent RTs on the team and really needed a LT...but with this signing, I'm starting to think one of what we have will become LT now. I'm not sure who/what we will be drafting now...maybe they go BPA?
My thought all along was that Nix feels he can find a road-grating run blocker at LT later in the draft.

When you look at Nix's track record he drafts playmakers with his first pick... Tomlinson, Rivers, Merriman, Jammer, Cromartie....


I am convinced he is drafting whoever he feels is the BPA at #9 then going after a scheme specific OT later in the draft. Which will most likely be a big run blocking LT.

[mysticsoto]

My thought all along was that Nix feels he can find a road-grating run blocker at LT later in the draft.

When you look at Nix's track record he drafts playmakers with his first pick... Tomlinson, Rivers, Merriman, Jammer, Cromartie....


I am convinced he is drafting whoever he feels is the BPA at #9 then going after a scheme specific OT later in the draft. Which will most likely be a big run blocking LT.

In that case, I'm thinking we'll end up with a top LB - which I'm ok with since a 3-4 needs top LBs to succeed...

[Bert102176]

I haven't gotten the text saying he signed

[THATHURMANATOR]

oh enough already, stop pretending these moves are any good.

The guy is a bum. i have already admitted i'm fine with a 2-14 season as long as a new core starts to emerge.

The holier than thou bills fan who has a stronger appetite for piss poor football is getting old.
Who is pretending anything?

I am not holier than thou. I just get annoyed with the same whining every year and people not doing anything about it. If you don't like it then don't go to the games. That is your only recourse.

I don't like the moves or lack there of either.

[THATHURMANATOR]

I know its way to early to be predicting how many games the Bills will win in 2010 but you feel like the Bills have the potential/posibility of winning 10 games?
As of right now absolutely not.

[BuffaloBillsHeart]

To a three year deal, and if I heard the dollar amount correctly, I think some of you may get sick.

You didn't hear this. Somebody on BBMB reported this long before you and you just copied it.

[THATHURMANATOR]

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Of course but is 6.5 Terrible or middle of the road?

Bushrod of the superbowl winning Saints gave up 7.5 in the same amount of games according to the stats.com site Pat uses.

[THATHURMANATOR]

You didn't hear this. Somebody on BBMB reported this long before you and you just copied it.
What is the difference? The guy is trying to get us information. Why hate on it?

[Ickybaluky]

Of course but is 6.5 Terrible or middle of the road?

Bushrod of the superbowl winning Saints gave up 7.5 in the same amount of games according to the stats.com site Pat uses.

A bigger concern with Green is the penalties. He has been taken too many penalties. In the last 3 years he has had 28 penalties, 21 of them false starts, in 38 games. Those are drive-killers.

That said, he is an OT and fills a big need for the Bills. OL are hard for fans to judge for effectiveness, especially if they have been in unstable situations (like Oakland). The Bills obviously saw something in the guy.

[THATHURMANATOR]

A bigger concern with Green is the penalties. He has been taken too many penalties. In the last 3 years he has had 28 penalties, 21 of them false starts, in 38 games. Those are drive-killers.

That said, he is an OT and fills a big need for the Bills. OL are hard to judge for effectiveness, especially if they haven't been in stable situations (like Oakland). The Bills obviously saw something in the guy.
Agreed. I don't know anything about the guy so I am trying to get info. Word is that he is terrible. I want to know this is serious.

[Ickybaluky]

Agreed. I don't know anything about the guy so I am trying to get info. Word is that he is terrible. I want to know this is serious.

Just remember, you can't trust anything a Raider fan says. They are going to hate on a player who leaves worse than any other fan.

The Raiders have been a terrible team, so I think that makes it harder to judge. The fact the Bills brought this guy in and signed him so quickly probably means they targeted him. For whatever reason, they see something they like in terms of fitting what they want to do on offense. My guess is his run blocking.

Like I said, the big thing that jumps out is the penalties, especially the false starts. The Raiders haven't been known for their discipline, so maybe the Bills feel they can correct it.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Just remember, you can't trust anything a Raider fan says. They are going to hate on a player who leaves worse than any other fan.

The Raiders have been a terrible team, so I think that makes it harder to judge. The fact the Bills brought this guy in and signed him so quickly probably means they targeted him. For whatever reason, they see something they like in terms of fitting what they want to do on offense. My guess is his run blocking.

Like I said, the big thing that jumps out is the penalties, especially the false starts. The Raiders haven't been known for their discipline, so maybe the Bills feel they can correct it.
Good points.

I can't say that the Bill's of late have been the poster boys for discipline either though... One of my biggest hopes for this coaching regime is that they correct this.

[feldspar]

Why give a 33 year old tackle a 3 year deal?

Because the number 3 is very significant. Give a 33 year old Tackle a 3 year deal at $3 million a year, and then throw up 3 times.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Because the number 3 is very significant. Give a 33 year old Tackle a 3 year deal at $3 million a year, and then throw up 3 times.
3 mil a year isn't much for a starting tackle. If we get a good year or 2 out of him I don't see the problem.

[BuffaloBillsHeart]

What is the difference? The guy is trying to get us information. Why hate on it?

He tries to get credit for a report that he has copied from somebody else.

[feldspar]

He tries to get credit for a report that he has copied from somebody else.

How is he trying "to get credit?" All he said was that he heard that Cornell Green was signed. I heard the same thing, and so did you. Who cares about the timeline? He's not acting like he was in the room when the deal was done or anything like that. Everybody not in that room has second-hand information; in other words, you have to hear about these things somehow, whether someone tells you or you read it.

[ParanoidAndroid]

What is a good amount of sacks to give up?

It depends on how many 3rd and long situations you are in and how efficient your QB is as well.
The sack number doesn't tell the story, but the penalties are something that I'd be concerned about. How does he compare to his teammates in the penalty category?