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[northernbillfan]

21 more days.

Post as often as you can in teh next three weeks so I can keep looking at his ****eating grin.

[X-Era]

21 more days.

Post as often as you can in teh next three weeks so I can keep looking at his ****eating grin.
OK

[EricStratton]

Does it burn you at all NBF that while Canada won the gold the country can barely support pro hockey?

[jamze132]

Does it burn you at all NBF that while Canada won the gold the country can barely support pro hockey?
They do have Terrence and Phillip though...

[northernbillfan]

Does it burn you at all NBF that while Canada won the gold the country can barely support pro hockey?15,000+ for the last place team in the league and that's not support?

Canada only has half a dozen major cities and all of them have hockey teams. Those teams are not losing money. We also have another four cities crying for an NHL franchise and would support them.

Canada supports the NHL very well thank you. The only teams in the red are American teams, or that's the way it was last time I checked.

[X-Era]

Screw all that crap... I just want NBF to be my personal supplier of Cuban's... the cigars, not the people.

[rbochan]

15,000+ for the last place team in the league and that's not support?
...
And 1100 people showed up when the Marlies were in the playoffs. Same town.

[RockStar36]

I suppose with being a fan of the Oilers, you have to have some joy during your hockey season NBF.

[northernbillfan]

And 1100 people showed up when the Marlies were in the playoffs. Same town.:huh:

[rbochan]

:huh:
It wasn't until the coffee kicked in that I realized you weren't talking about the Leafs.

[RockStar36]

I don't think any of us can dog Canada for their love of hockey.

If I were running the NHL, I would add a bunch of teams up in Canada and cut at least six from the states.

[northernbillfan]

I don't think any of us can dog Canada for their love of hockey.

If I were running the NHL, I would add a bunch of teams up in Canada and cut at least six from the states.At least four that are failures. Tampa, Florida, Carolina and Phoenix can all find good homes in Canada. Halifax, Hamilton, Winnipeg and Regina would support those teams.

[Dude]

Winnipeg already lost a team.

If I'm not mistaken, it's the economics in a multi-national league that is causing teams up north to move. I don't know if the current climate has changed that, but it used to be that Canadian owners had to pay salaries in US dollars to make them more competitive with the US teams. It had the opposite effect on smaller market teams.

Or, I could be high on glue.

[northernbillfan]

Winnipeg already lost a team.

If I'm not mistaken, it's the economics in a multi-national league that is causing teams up north to move. I don't know if the current climate has changed that, but it used to be that Canadian owners had to pay salaries in US dollars to make them more competitive with the US teams. It had the opposite effect on smaller market teams.

Or, I could be high on glue.It had a major impact on teams in Canada however that was the pre cap era and at a time when the American dollar was worth a lot more than it is today compared to the Canadian dollar.

Winnipeg is running a campaign to get a team back to their city and have 15,000+ people committing to season tickets if they do get a team back in the 'Peg.

Jim Bassilli is trying to get a team into Hamilton (Phoenix would go there if Bettman ever swallowed his pride and accepted the fact that the Coyotes are a failure.)

[Dude]

That's what I figured.

I think the Laffs and the Sabres would have something to say about a franchise in Hamilton.

[northernbillfan]

That's what I figured.

I think the Laffs and the Sabres would have something to say about a franchise in Hamilton.If New York can support two teams, and the LA area support two teams, why wouldn't the Golden Horseshoe be able to support two or three teams?

Isn't the population base at 5 or 6 million in that area? That is more than enough to support three teams.

[OpIv37]

At least four that are failures. Tampa, Florida, Carolina and Phoenix can all find good homes in Canada. Halifax, Hamilton, Winnipeg and Regina would support those teams.

you mean sunny, warm cities in the South don't pay attention to hockey? I'm shocked- who saw that one coming?


And while Phoenix has been a disaster, a team in Hamilton would be detrimental to the Sabres, and would probably negatively affect the Leafs as well.

[OpIv37]

If New York can support two teams, and the LA area support two teams, why wouldn't the Golden Horseshoe be able to support two or three teams?

Isn't the population base at 5 or 6 million in that area? That is more than enough to support three teams.

I know hockey is a little more popular up in that area, but the DC area is about 5 million and they couldn't get 12,000 to show up for the Caps before Boudreau took over and they started winning.

[Syderick]

They should move some of the southern state teams that aren't doing well to northern state cities like Seattle.

[jamze132]

Quebec should have a damn team. God bless the Nordiques!

[northernbillfan]

They should move some of the southern state teams that aren't doing well to northern state cities like Seattle.When I was in Seattle a few years ago, there was a major discussion going about which of the big sports was more popular, baseball, basketball or football. When I asked why wasn't hockey being thrown into the mix, they just looked at me and laughed and laughed.

Hockey will never fly in a city where basketball is entrenched such as Seattle.

[RockStar36]

Maybe not more teams in Canada, but the NHL could eliminate around 6 teams and the league would probably be just as successful. Unfortunately Gary Bettman won't admit that because that would mean he was wrong.

[Syderick]

Better chance of an NHL team doing well in a nothern city then in the southern city. Hamiliton won't be gettting a team, that's Leaf/Sabre territory.

[BlackMetalNinja]

When I was in Seattle a few years ago, there was a major discussion going about which of the big sports was more popular, baseball, basketball or football. When I asked why wasn't hockey being thrown into the mix, they just looked at me and laughed and laughed.

Hockey will never fly in a city where basketball is entrenched such as Seattle.Entrenched so much that they don't even have a team? The Seahawks draw well and the Sounders of the MLS draw incredibly well compared to other soccer teams in the US.

[X-Era]

Id be interested to see how successful Hockey would be without the U.S.

I mean, I think this is an example of a sport that America has made extremely successful. It probably would have been popular in other countries including Canada, but it would not be as mainstream or carry as much following, broadcasting, and glamor.

[Dude]

Or glamour.

[northernbillfan]

Entrenched so much that they don't even have a team? The Seahawks draw well and the Sounders of the MLS draw incredibly well compared to other soccer teams in the US.That's how much I follow B-Ball. I didn't even know the Sonics moved.

[northernbillfan]

Id be interested to see how successful Hockey would be without the U.S.

I mean, I think this is an example of a sport that America has made extremely successful. It probably would have been popular in other countries including Canada, but it would not be as mainstream or carry as much following, broadcasting, and glamor.This has to be the most rediculous thing I've heard on these boards in a long long time. America has done what for hockey????

American teams are struggling all the time. American viewership is way down. Mainstream??? Are YOU the one on glue?

Broadcasting??? With the exception of the north east US, there is not a lot of hockey coverage anywhere in the States, including markets where hockey exists.

[northernbillfan]

Oh and off to the hockey forum with this thread.

[Dude]

This has to be the most rediculous thing I've heard on these boards in a long long time. America has done what for hockey????America gave you the Glowing Puck.

You can thank us later.

[northernbillfan]

America gave you the Glowing Puck.

You can thank us later.That was for Americans who couldn't follow the flow of the game.

[Dude]

Why do you hate America?

[northernbillfan]

Why do you hate America?I love America.

I just don't love the fact that America won't embrace hockey. Nor do I like blanket statements such as "I think this is an example of a sport that America has made extremely successful. It probably would have been popular in other countries including Canada, but it would not be as mainstream or carry as much following, broadcasting, and glamor." which insinuates that without America hockey wouldn't be successful. WTF?

[Dude]

Are all Candians this cranky?

[northernbillfan]

Are all Candians this cranky?I'm not cranky. I'm just defending Canada's sport and the perception that without America, it wouldn't succeed anywhere.

[BlackMetalNinja]

I love America.

I just don't love the fact that America won't embrace hockey. Nor do I like blanket statements such as "I think this is an example of a sport that America has made extremely successful. It probably would have been popular in other countries including Canada, but it would not be as mainstream or carry as much following, broadcasting, and glamor." which insinuates that without America hockey wouldn't be successful. WTF?Isn't "America won't embrace hockey" a blanket statement???

[northernbillfan]

Isn't "America won't embrace hockey" a blanket statement???You got me there. I should have said "Most of America" or "Parts of America" and actually the statement I refered to isn't exactly a blanket statement either.