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  • patmoran2006
    Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
    • Dec 2005
    • 19840

    Green brings experience, baggage to Buffalo

    To the surprise of roughly no one, the first thing the Buffalo Bills did organizationally when free agency started was set out to upgrade their offensive line. The philosophy was astute as the Bills offensive line was anemic in 2009 and did themselves no favors with the rash of injuries the unit suffered.

    Wade Smith was brought in on day two and although the team reported positive conversations the former Chief left the team last Saturday without a deal and has since visited Houston. He’s also reported to be headed to Arizona for a visit out west on Tuesday.

    The Bills then quickly struck on Monday to land Oakland Raiders tackle Cornell Green. The team met with him in the morning and by the afternoon signed him to a three-year deal worth a reported $9 million.

    The 12-year veteran said on a conference call Monday night that he had the chance to visit other teams, but the Bills presented him with the best opportunity.


    “I had an opportunity to visit a couple of other teams, but Buffalo made me feel real comfortable,” Green said during the conference call. “Everything was first class here. I feel comfortable coming here. I feel comfortable moving my family here. I’m glad to have an opportunity to play over here.”

    Green is expected to start at right tackle in 2010 in place of Brad Butler, who unexpectedly retired last month. Buffalo is still expected to take a left tackle early in the NFL draft, perhaps with the ninth overall pick.

    The team hopes that for at least the short term they’ve filled the right tackle void with Green. He thinks his experience and intangibles will help solidify the position and mold his younger teammates into a more cohesive unit.

    “I’ve been in the league for 10 years now and one thing the guys encouraged me on about here is the leadership that I do have,” Green told Bills.com reporter Chris Brown in a published interview Monday. “I bring a lot of leadership to the team, a lot of experience at the same time just ready to be a part of the offensive line and get this Bills organization to where it used to be.”

    Green comes to the Bills with size (6’6”, 315 pounds) matched only by question marks. His play on the field has come into question and over the past year, so has his judgment off it.

    In March of 2009 he was arrested and charged with domestic violence in Florida. Tampa police said Green became violent during an argument at his home there with the mother of his two children. Police said Green slammed 30-year-old Teriyonal Ebony Flowers into a wall, and then struck her right arm with an aluminum mop handle.

    The police said he then fled the house and was later arrested at Tampa International Airport before a flight he had planned to take to Oakland.
    Last May Green was given 12 months probation for the misdemeanor according to court records reported by the Buffalo News.

    Green said during his media conference call that the incident was unfortunate and he’s moved past it.

    “Last year the issue I went through was unfortunate,” Green said. “I learned and grew from that and I just moved past that. My girl and I are together now and we’re just looking forward to the future and being a part of the Buffalo Bills.”

    While the off-field mess of 2009 was hopefully a onetime mistake, fans are generally more worried about the countless mistakes he made on it. In 12 games as a starter last season Green committed 12 penalties, including seven false starts, something the Bills are all-too familiar with. He was also responsible for 6.5 sacks according to stats.com and struggles heavily in pass protection.

    Raymond St. Martin covers the Raiders for the SB Nation Silver & Black. He warns Bills fans that they’re getting a guy as likely to make a drive-killing mistake as someone who pancakes a linebacker.

    “Cornell Green is a penalty machine and the reaction from Raiders fans is they could not see him leave fast enough,” St. Martin said. “He was brought to Oakland at Tom Cable’s request and he never did anything to warrant the starting position that was handed to him for two years.”

    Green moving on as a free agent was something St. Martin said the Raiders anticipated happening for months and made no real effort to bring him back.

    “With the offensive line performing below expectations and the Raiders supposedly having set their sights on Bruce Campbell in this year’s draft and having retained Khalif Barnes, it was expected that Cornell Green, the worst performer on a line that surrendered 49 sacks last season would not be back.” St. Martin said.

    “Green was brought in as a zone blocking specialist and he committed too many costly penalties at key points in the game to be effective.” I’ll take Langston Walker over Cornell Green any day of the week, especially on Sundays.”

    Still, the Bills feel like they’re getting at least a minimal upgrade at the position. Green is regarded as much better in the running game than when his team throws the ball. New head coach Chan Gailey sounds like he’s much more committed to running the ball and that could play to Greens’ strengths.
    There also weren’t a surplus of options. The talent pool in unrestricted free agency is very weak and all of the quality restricted free agent tackles of quality carried a heavy compensation price.

    Assuming the Bills address the left tackle spot, the addition of Green gives Demetrius Bell and Jamon Meredith more time to develop in the league.
    Green said he’s excited to be in Buffalo and looks forward to working with his younger line mates.

    “I’ve been waiting for a long time to get this opportunity to be a leader and be an example for other guys,” Green said. “Been a lot of places in my career.. Won a Super Bowl in Tampa so I bring some intangibles that a lot of guys don’t have right now because of the inexperience.”


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  • Oaf
    Do you read what you write?
    • Jun 2007
    • 6151

    #2
    Re: Green brings experience, baggage to Buffalo

    So we signed the guy who was beaten by another tackle that WE cut?

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    • EDS
      Registered User
      • Jan 2003
      • 5216

      #3
      Re: Green brings experience, baggage to Buffalo

      It is one thing when a rookie makes a lot of mistakes (or inexperienced player, like say, Bell), but a ten year veteran making bonehead mistakes?

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      • WeAreArthurMoates
        Registered User
        • Feb 2009
        • 1642

        #4
        Re: Green brings experience, baggage to Buffalo

        Originally posted by Oaf
        So we signed the guy who was beaten by another tackle that WE cut?
        Actually Green beat out Walker this year, you have it the other way around.

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        • T-Long
          Circling the Wagons since 1982.
          • Sep 2003
          • 3848

          #5
          Re: Green brings experience, baggage to Buffalo

          You know, I can guarantee you that there is a good number of guys in the NFL that have incidents with their significant others all the time, it just never gets reported to the police or found out by the media. Arguments happen and things get out of hand sometimes, but you can't base the guy's character on ONE incident. It's not like he committed murder or didn't something unspeakable. He got in an argument with his baby's momma and things got a bit out of hand. Go ahead and throw the first stone if you have never made a mistake.

          All I'm saying is give the guy a damn chance before we bash him. The negativity over and over and over again here each day is seriously depressing.

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          • justasportsfan
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 71579

            #6
            Re: Green brings experience, baggage to Buffalo

            Originally posted by Oaf
            So we signed the guy who was beaten by another tackle that WE cut?
            Nope. Walker had given up more sacks though
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            • Ickybaluky
              Registered User
              • Jul 2003
              • 8884

              #7
              Re: Green brings experience, baggage to Buffalo

              Originally posted by Oaf
              So we signed the guy who was beaten by another tackle that WE cut?
              The Raiders played Walker at LG, not RT. So, they weren't even competing against each other.

              They picked up Walker after Robert Gallery was hurt, and he filled in for him at LG.
              Last edited by Ickybaluky; 03-10-2010, 10:19 AM.

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              • Philagape
                WIN NOW
                • Jul 2002
                • 19432

                #8
                Re: Green brings experience, baggage to Buffalo

                Originally posted by T-Long
                You know, I can guarantee you that there is a good number of guys in the NFL that have incidents with their significant others all the time, it just never gets reported to the police or found out by the media. Arguments happen and things get out of hand sometimes, but you can't base the guy's character on ONE incident. It's not like he committed murder or didn't something unspeakable. He got in an argument with his baby's momma and things got a bit out of hand. Go ahead and throw the first stone if you have never made a mistake.

                All I'm saying is give the guy a damn chance before we bash him. The negativity over and over and over again here each day is seriously depressing.
                Sounds like the bashing is for his play on the field.
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                • Night Train
                  Retired - On Several Levels
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 33117

                  #9
                  Re: Green brings experience, baggage to Buffalo

                  Originally posted by T-Long
                  You know, I can guarantee you that there is a good number of guys in the NFL that have incidents with their significant others all the time, it just never gets reported to the police or found out by the media.
                  Like a certain HOF QB in OP.
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                  • Jeff1220
                    H to the 12:20
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 6136

                    #10
                    Re: Green brings experience, baggage to Buffalo

                    Originally posted by T-Long
                    You know, I can guarantee you that there is a good number of guys in the NFL that have incidents with their significant others all the time, it just never gets reported to the police or found out by the media. Arguments happen and things get out of hand sometimes, but you can't base the guy's character on ONE incident. It's not like he committed murder or didn't something unspeakable. He got in an argument with his baby's momma and things got a bit out of hand. Go ahead and throw the first stone if you have never made a mistake.

                    All I'm saying is give the guy a damn chance before we bash him. The negativity over and over and over again here each day is seriously depressing.
                    I know that in the NFL morality is a relative term, but it is pretty scummy to be violent to a woman no matter how it happens. I have not and will not ever lay a hand on a woman.

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                    • T-Long
                      Circling the Wagons since 1982.
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 3848

                      #11
                      Re: Green brings experience, baggage to Buffalo

                      Originally posted by Jeff1220
                      I know that in the NFL morality is a relative term, but it is pretty scummy to be violent to a woman no matter how it happens. I have not and will not ever lay a hand on a woman.
                      I totally agree...I just think it's naive for people to think it doesn't happen with a lot of these guys in the NFL...many of them are never reported.

                      And how can anyone say the bashing isn't a part of our evaluation of the guy when Pat's thread says "baggage to Buffalo". I don't think one argument with his woman should base your opinion on a guy. You don't know the situation, so leave the personal stuff out of the equation and take a look at him ON THE FIELD. I posted some youtube highlights of the guy, and I think he is a helluva run blocker. He's not the best pass blocker in the world, which is why he is our RT and ____________(enter your Bills QB name here) will see the rush coming from his side.

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                      • DraftBoy
                        Administrator
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 107452

                        #12
                        Re: Green brings experience, baggage to Buffalo

                        Originally posted by T-Long
                        You know, I can guarantee you that there is a good number of guys in the NFL that have incidents with their significant others all the time, it just never gets reported to the police or found out by the media. Arguments happen and things get out of hand sometimes, but you can't base the guy's character on ONE incident. It's not like he committed murder or didn't something unspeakable. He got in an argument with his baby's momma and things got a bit out of hand. Go ahead and throw the first stone if you have never made a mistake.

                        All I'm saying is give the guy a damn chance before we bash him. The negativity over and over and over again here each day is seriously depressing.
                        Made mistakes? Sure we all have, but making a mistake in regards to placing my hands on a woman in a violent manner, never. He's automatically a notch lower in my book for that.

                        Ill cast the stone, and Ive made more than my fair share of mistakes. This however is one that I know Ill never make.
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                        We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                        • T-Long
                          Circling the Wagons since 1982.
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 3848

                          #13
                          Re: Green brings experience, baggage to Buffalo

                          Originally posted by DraftBoy
                          Made mistakes? Sure we all have, but making a mistake in regards to placing my hands on a woman in a violent manner, never. He's automatically a notch lower in my book for that.

                          Ill cast the stone, and Ive made more than my fair share of mistakes. This however is one that I know Ill never make.
                          I will never lay a hand on my wife either, all I'm saying is the guy deserves a fair shot here. If he is Langston walker 2.0, then let the bashing begin.

                          And lastly, people need to realize that Buffalo is not an easy sell for these free agents to come and play. It's the truth. The only way they are going to get guys in here is to over pay them or that they realize they have no other options. Nix is going to build this team through the draft and fill some holes. It is the best way to do it.

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                          • DraftBoy
                            Administrator
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 107452

                            #14
                            Re: Green brings experience, baggage to Buffalo

                            Originally posted by T-Long
                            I will never lay a hand on my wife either, all I'm saying is the guy deserves a fair shot here. If he is Langston walker 2.0, then let the bashing begin.

                            And lastly, people need to realize that Buffalo is not an easy sell for these free agents to come and play. It's the truth. The only way they are going to get guys in here is to over pay them or that they realize they have no other options. Nix is going to build this team through the draft and fill some holes. It is the best way to do it.
                            I dont disagree and I dont dislike Cornell Green the OL, I dislike Cornell Green the person. If he can show the incident is behind him and can play like a contributing caliber OL I have no issues with me. But he's already playing against a stacked deck in my book both with his on the field and off the field actions.
                            COMING SOON...
                            Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                            We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                            • better days
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 22028

                              #15
                              Re: Green brings experience, baggage to Buffalo

                              Originally posted by EDS
                              It is one thing when a rookie makes a lot of mistakes (or inexperienced player, like say, Bell), but a ten year veteran making bonehead mistakes?
                              A player does not stay in the NFL for 10 years where the average career length is 5 years without having something to offer.

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