Jeff Wright and Kyle Williams

[Throne Logic]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but at 274 pounds, wasn't Wright a fairly effective Nose Tackle for the 3-4 style Buffalo ran throughout the Superbowl years?

Jeff Wright physical stats: Height: 6-2 Weight: 274
Kyle Williams physical stats: Height: 6-1 Weight: 306

Why isn't it possible that KW might do OK at the Nose Tackle position if they use him in a similar way that the early 90's team used Jeff Wright?

[JCBills]

Re: Jeff Wright and Kyle Williams

Totally different eras of defensive football.

If size wasn't so desirable now, you would see dozens of undersized NTs running around, but there's really only one current one, Jay Ratliff, and that's because of the Cowboys type of one gap 3-4.

Things are usually the way they are for a good reason, kind of like why you don't see sub-200 lb QBs doing too well.

[YardRat]

Re: Jeff Wright and Kyle Williams

The offensive linemen were smaller in Wright's day, and there were frequent discussions about him being the weak link on the defense. Wright was serviceable, but in this day and age he'd fit better as a 34 DE or 43 DT.

I'm willing to give Williams a chance to prove he can play the position, though.

[OpIv37]

Re: Jeff Wright and Kyle Williams

Correct me if I'm wrong, but at 274 pounds, wasn't Wright a fairly effective Nose Tackle for the 3-4 style Buffalo ran throughout the Superbowl years?

Jeff Wright physical stats: Height: 6-2 Weight: 274
Kyle Williams physical stats: Height: 6-1 Weight: 306

Why isn't it possible that KW might do OK at the Nose Tackle position if they use him in a similar way that the early 90's team used Jeff Wright?

Here's a better question: if 306 lb guys can play NT, why do 3-4 teams shell out millions for NT's who are 325+?

Also, don't forget Williams recently bulked up to 306 from the low 290's, so it's probably his ceiling as far as effective weight.

Williams is a hardworking guy who has exceeded expectations as a 5th round draft pick, but he really isn't a good fit for this D and may end up being the odd man out. Of course, this organization is cheap and has done NOTHING in terms of staffing the new D, so don't be surprised to see Williams and/or Stroud playing NT. Just don't expect results.

[Goobylal]

Re: Jeff Wright and Kyle Williams

Correct me if I'm wrong, but at 274 pounds, wasn't Wright a fairly effective Nose Tackle for the 3-4 style Buffalo ran throughout the Superbowl years?

No he wasn't. But he was a Polian favorite which is why he stayed, and was well paid. Not to say he wasn't a decent guy, but a true NT might have gotten the Bills some SB wins.

[DieHrdBillsFan23]

Re: Jeff Wright and Kyle Williams

He also had Bruce Smith, Leon Seals and Phil Hanson, 3 of the best, with Hanson being underrated most of his career, on the outsides which helps his cause alot.

[OpIv37]

Re: Jeff Wright and Kyle Williams

He also had Bruce Smith, Leon Seals and Phil Hanson, 3 of the best, with Hanson being underrated most of his career, on the outsides which helps his cause alot.

But we have Aaron Maybin, Aaron Schobel and Spencer Johnson. That's just as good as Seals, Hansen and Smith, right?

[NOT THE DUDE...]

Re: Jeff Wright and Kyle Williams

But we have Aaron Maybin, Aaron Schobel and Spencer Johnson. That's just as good as Seals, Hansen and Smith, right?

My chicken parmesean just came back up that i ate for dinner...

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Re: Jeff Wright and Kyle Williams

But we have Aaron Maybin, Aaron Schobel and Spencer Johnson. That's just as good as Seals, Hansen and Smith, right?

But Maybin has the "potential" to be very good.

[Goobylal]

Re: Jeff Wright and Kyle Williams

Maybin wasn't drafted to play 3-4 DE. Neither was Schobel. Johnson OTOH can play 3-4 DE, as can Stroud.

[Bert102176]

Re: Jeff Wright and Kyle Williams

I say we should give the guy a chance hell do you really think we'll win anything this year

[Luisito23]

Re: Jeff Wright and Kyle Williams

Johnson OTOH can play 3-4 DE, as can Stroud.

Anybody can play any position doesn't mean they're any good at it though.

[JCBills]

Re: Jeff Wright and Kyle Williams

I say we should give the guy a chance hell do you really think we'll win anything this year

Better off getting value now, he's coming off two huge seasons, and a sub-par year could drop his value. He's one hell of a player but just very unlikely to fit in a 3-4. No I don't expect a pretty product early, so get as many picks as possible via trading back in the 1st or trading players.