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  • X-Era
    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
    • Feb 2005
    • 27670

    Prepare for no QB change

    I hope Im wrong and that, this year, we upgrade our QB situation, but its looking unlikely.

    Chris wont tell you something that doesn't have a good amount of truth to it. Unfortuantely, we are very likely to suffer through what we have at QB this year. And I think we might just end up with an even worse record when all is said and done. I see several years of growth from any rookie before we get top notch play, even if we win the lottery in the draft and get the right guy. Ryan? Flacco? Sanchez? all had much, much, better teams that allowed them to come in with less on their shoulders. We just wont do what those teams did to improve our roster to where a rookie can win year one. And now it looks likely that we wont even start down the road of fixing it for at least another year:

    "CB: Truthfully, I wasn’t impressed with most of what was out there and available. The Seahawks traded for Charlie Whitehurst who has barely played in the league. Cleveland acquired Jake Delhomme coming off a career worst season. It’s tough times if you need a QB. That’s why it would not surprise me if the Bills spent most of their roster shaping efforts addressing their other positional deficiencies this year (OT, NT, LB, TE) and let this year play itself out at QB. Then based on the performance of whichever one of the QBs that plays make a wholehearted effort to address the position once and for all in 2011."

    Here's another one of his comments:

    "CB: Jim, you’re speaking my language. OT first, provided one of the top 4 are there at 9 (worried a bit one might not be there now) and then best NT on the board in round two. I’m thinking the Bills have the same idea we do, which is spend this offseason filling the other holes and then go hard core after a QB or do whatever you have to next year to get to the top of the draft board to get Jake Locker. And because that could very well be their approach I think trading a 1st or 2nd round pick from 2011 is unlikely."

    And before I hear the same old song and dance about how next years QB class is so much better, its actually fairly easy. If the guy is a blue-chip franchise guy hes going top 5, we wont be picking there, so moving up is the only option. That means trading multiple picks and could easily mean 2 1sts to get that supposed "cant miss" stud QB. And from years of posting here, I see very few people that re willing to make that sort of a move. Ihope we solve all of our other problems this year in the draft so that we can trade whatever it takes to get the best possible rookie... but:

    A) I think there will be a huge amount of people who will still hate the idea
    B) I don't think for a second that we will solve all of our other needs in this draft

    Which put us about the same boat were in now.
    Last edited by X-Era; 03-19-2010, 05:24 PM.

  • The Spaz
    Registered User
    • Mar 2003
    • 19066

    #2
    Re: Prepare for no QB change

    I'll wait and see who this other QB is going to be before I get to upset over the situation.

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    • New Ro's Greatest
      Registered User
      • Sep 2008
      • 351

      #3
      Re: Prepare for no QB change

      Unless Bradford or Clausen fall to #9. Then i think plans will change. GO BILLS

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      • ZAZusmc03
        Registered User
        • Jan 2010
        • 1150

        #4
        Re: Prepare for no QB change

        I think this draft will fill quite a bit of holes. And if we blow it out of our asses this coming season because of piss poor play from the QB, then good, we can grab the best available coming out next season. Really, I don't expect a change in the QB position next year. And quite frankly, it doesn't bother me. Finish the offensive line, and build a solid D. That alone would keep games close. A solid O line and great D can make mediocre QB's look good. (see sanchez)

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        • JCBills
          Registered User
          • Jan 2010
          • 3631

          #5
          Re: Prepare for no QB change

          I have no problem with not taking a QB in this year's draft. Much rather go after OLB, NT, ILB, WR, and a peppering of OL.

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          • homeslice5484
            Registered User
            • Jul 2008
            • 1042

            #6
            Re: Prepare for no QB change

            give Brohm a legitimate chance to earn it, none of this fake competition where they already picked someone



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            • Night Train
              Retired - On Several Levels
              • Jul 2005
              • 33117

              #7
              Re: Prepare for no QB change

              I bet we do draft a QB later but the fanboys of Clausen won't hear of it,even though many scouts don't view him as a Franchise QB at all.

              Don't ever reach... unless it's a QB.

              Got it.
              Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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              • Typ0
                honey pie
                • Jul 2002
                • 32593

                #8
                Re: Prepare for no QB change

                they are changing systems and have not done enough to help the team be successful and all those opportunities to right it aren't going to be available in the draft. This team has sucked for years due to poor play from the QB position. It's being set up again to put too much pressure on that position so it can be used as a scapegoat for their failures. We are going to have the current roster of QBs and, if lucky, a rookie going into next season but they aren't going to be in a position for success because the organization has made it so. Next year, the same thing will happen again but they will have a year under their belt and perhaps a little more talent. It's all a repetitive cycle laying in waiting for an Uber QB to come along and right the ship which gives them a constant excuse for not making the real commitment to building the team to compete in all phases of the game.

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                • DrGraves
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 2693

                  #9
                  Re: Prepare for no QB change

                  chris brown doesn't know **** about anything. don't listen to him. his job consists of spreading bull**** rumors so no one knows what the front office is actually doing.

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                  • Prov401
                    President of WADL (Whitner Anti-Defamation League)
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 1651

                    #10
                    Re: Prepare for no QB change

                    I 100% understand that QB is the most important position on a football team. However, we have too many holes right now to even think about contending for a championship, even with a newly aquired QB.

                    This draft is deep, specifically within the trenches, which HEY!, is pretty much Buffalo's weakness.

                    I am not sold on Bradford or Clausen what-so-ever. I think they both played it safe not attending the combine this year because, well let's face it, they both knew they were going in the first. No reason to stumble in front of 32 teams at the combine and hurt their draft stock. Unlike Sanchez and Stafford, who both manned up and essentially competed for the number 1 pick last year, these two, and their surroudings, don't seem confident enough to hold private workouts, etc. I don't want to hear about bradford's injury either. The guy put on 20lbs of muscle, which requires much shoulder activity in the weight room.

                    With all that said, I have no problem with Buffalo not drafting a QB this year, and trying to either refine Trent's tools (or should I say confidence), or seeing what we have in Brohm. I anticipate us running the ball a ton this year either way. We NEED to draft a safe, and definite homerun pick at number 9. A QB is never a safe bet. And I'm sick of Buffalo blowing the first round pick. Let's build our team's trenches, and get a few more LB's in here. Adopt the Jets style of play last year, and see where it gets us. If nobody steps up to the plate at QB (which is likely), let's draft one next year.
                    Last edited by Prov401; 03-19-2010, 07:53 PM.

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                    • TigerJ
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 22575

                      #11
                      Re: Prepare for no QB change

                      I have said since mid January, that I thought the Bills would use the early part of the draft to address the lines and maybe pick a QB in the middle of the draft if they couldn't find one they like in free agency. I also said the starting QB position would be determined by a competition in training camp. While no one will publicly count Fitzpatrick out of that competition, I don't think he has a real shot at it because I don't think you can fix the things that are wrong with Fitz, namely his inconsistency and inacuracy issues. That will leave the competition largely between Edwards, Brohm, and our unnamed rookie. I really don't know how the season is going to turn out as far as the quarterbacking is concerned. I think it's possible the light could come on for either Edwards or Brohm, making it unnecessary to draft Jake Locker or whomever next year, or they might get lucky on a rookie QB. None of those possibilities are sure things, and maybe not even probabilities, but they are also far from impossible. It's not much of a consolation to say the Bills QB situation shouldn't be any worse than last year, but just maybe it will be a little better.
                      I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

                      I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.

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                      • Typ0
                        honey pie
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 32593

                        #12
                        Re: Prepare for no QB change

                        I agree with your assessment but also think Fitz has a likelyhood to be the backup again due to his experience. Basically, the QBs are already on the team unless a later round draft pick is chosen.

                        Originally posted by TigerJ
                        I have said since mid January, that I thought the Bills would use the early part of the draft to address the lines and maybe pick a QB in the middle of the draft if they couldn't find one they like in free agency. I also said the starting QB position would be determined by a competition in training camp. While no one will publicly count Fitzpatrick out of that competition, I don't think he has a real shot at it because I don't think you can fix the things that are wrong with Fitz, namely his inconsistency and inacuracy issues. That will leave the competition largely between Edwards, Brohm, and our unnamed rookie. I really don't know how the season is going to turn out as far as the quarterbacking is concerned. I think it's possible the light could come on for either Edwards or Brohm, making it unnecessary to draft Jake Locker or whomever next year, or they might get lucky on a rookie QB. None of those possibilities are sure things, and maybe not even probabilities, but they are also far from impossible. It's not much of a consolation to say the Bills QB situation shouldn't be any worse than last year, but just maybe it will be a little better.

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                        • Jan Reimers
                          Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                          • May 2003
                          • 17353

                          #13
                          Re: Prepare for no QB change

                          It's really early for sweeping predictions about any of our problem positions, especially QB.
                          Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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                          • NOT THE DUDE...
                            Hall of Fame Zoner
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 8826

                            #14
                            Re: Prepare for no QB change

                            I expect buffalo to build its front seven and add quality depth to the oline... right now i see 4 of our first 5 picks going towards the front seven, 2 dlineman, and 2 rush linebackers..

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                            • TigerJ
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 22575

                              #15
                              Re: Prepare for no QB change

                              Originally posted by Typ0
                              I agree with your assessment but also think Fitz has a likelyhood to be the backup again due to his experience. Basically, the QBs are already on the team unless a later round draft pick is chosen.
                              I agree that Fitz is likely to be the primary backup even though I didn't say it.
                              I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

                              I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.

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