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[DesertFox24]

Donte tweeted that the team is moving to olympic style lifting and they are all excited about it.

As a resulted I wanted to look up the benefits and found this tid bit.

Using Olympic exercises in your bodybuilding training creates tremendous physique development. Here are just a few of the advantages derived from Olympic lifts. Coordination, balance, concentration, flexibility, speed development, and most importantly, for bodybuilders, great upper body thickness! That's right amigo's, I said "thick". If you want a thick upper back, and wide shoulders that will envy even Ronnie Coleman, then these exercises should be added into your bodybuilding regimen.
The four lifts described below are Olympic auxiliary lifts. These lifts usually start slowly and finish fast and dynamically. These lifts should be performed under control. So keep the bar off your thighs with no wild, jerking, or bouncing motions.





Here is the link.


http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/schultz26.htm

[G Wolly]

If it translates to onfield production, that's great.

Otherwise STFU Donte

[NOT THE DUDE...]

i dont think it will really translate into becoming a better player. i just think the players will have less injuries...

[HopefulBillsFan]

If it translates to onfield production, that's great.

Otherwise STFU Donte

I think that is why the OP posted what this style of lifting does.. It seems to be quite the workout, and i could see how it would potentially translate into good results.

[ZAZusmc03]

Olympic style lifting is great for explosiveness, I hope that works out well for the team.

[mush69]

We brought in 2 new trainers this year, so I would hope that the players would see a few different styles an some changes to their routines. Afterall with the injuries they suffered as a team, some of that has to point to conditioning and the wieght room.

[Strongman]

Olympic style lifting is GREAT for football players because it trains the fast-twitch muscle fibers that are important in explosive sports like football. Done properly, it will make people much stronger and faster.

[DesertFox24]

Also looks like it will help with speed, balance, core strength, and in another article it says it will get your upper body uber thick.

I did some of this when I played college basketball and it really helped my vert, and my speed as I used to be able to run a 5:39 mile, and I am not what one would consider an athlete lol.

Like the other posters said hopefully it will help with explosiveness, injuries, and make our guys stronger.

I also read that these types of lifts are great for athletes because every exercise uses so many muscle groups in each exercise, which is the opposite of body building which is all about muscle isolation.

Saw something where so romanian lifting champ came to the US and did a 42 inch vert in weight lifting shoes.

Also saw where a US lifter about 6'1 and 230+ did a 39 inch vert, and he used Olympic style lifting.

[DBrown77]

This will help as much as the Kung Fu master we brought in last year

[HopefulBillsFan]

This will help as much as the Kung Fu master we brought in last year

our sack total from 2008-2009 went up didnt it?

[PECKERWOOD]

Olympic style lifting is great for explosiveness, I hope that works out well for the team.

Yeah, as far as the thickness comment goes, I'm not entirely sure about that. Look at the biggest and baddest Olympian power lifters out there, their bodies typically look fat and flabby.

[Jersey1031]

yeah but will it keep them healthy.......

[Strongman]

Yeah, as far as the thickness comment goes, I'm not entirely sure about that. Look at the biggest and baddest Olympian power lifters out there, their bodies typically look fat and flabby.

Some do carry quite a bit of bodyfat, but underneath it is some MASSIVE muscle development. Their primary focus is to lift the most weight possible, instead of looking ripped like bodybuilders. Carrying some extra fat allows them to do that.

Bodybuilders look impressive, but they don't have the functional muscle mass or strength of Olympic lifters, powerlifters, or other strength athletes.

[PECKERWOOD]

Some do carry quite a bit of bodyfat, but underneath it is some MASSIVE muscle development. Their primary focus is to lift the most weight possible, instead of looking ripped like bodybuilders. Carrying some extra fat allows them to do that.

Bodybuilders look impressive, but they don't have the functional muscle mass or strength of Olympic lifters, powerlifters, or other strength athletes.

I agree that they're definitely more powerful, but then again could they run for 60 minutes and still break world power lifting records?

[BillsWin]

That's how we lifted in college. It is tiring and tough, but man does it help. Noticeable increases in flexibility, strength, endurance and agility.

It makes you more explosive off the snap and makes it easier to turn and switch direction.

Depending on what type of reps and sets they will be doing, along with weight, they will either be trying to get quicker and build endurance and stamina, or they will noticeably grow in bulk and muscle mass.

I like this move a lot. But, they will also need to be on a strict caloric intake monitoring diet and resting on their off days is imperative.

Good luck with the squats though. That **** tore up my knees something fierce.

[buffalobillsfan95]

with this training can kyle williams be bulked up to be a NT?

[PECKERWOOD]

That's how we lifted in college. It is tiring and tough, but man does it help. Noticeable increases in flexibility, strength, endurance and agility.

It makes you more explosive off the snap and makes it easier to turn and switch direction.

Depending on what type of reps and sets they will be doing, along with weight, they will either be trying to get quicker and build endurance and stamina, or they will noticeably grow in bulk and muscle mass.

I like this move a lot. But, they will also need to be on a strict caloric intake monitoring diet and resting on their off days is imperative.

Good luck with the squats though. That **** tore up my knees something fierce.

Powerlifting/Olympic lifting IS dangerous, squats, deadlifts and powercleans can snap bones, tear ligaments and destroy joints if your technique is awful.

[BUFF Bills]

I'd like to know what kind of weight training they WERE doing, since they're just now starting with olympic lifts... It's hard to believe they weren't doing this all along. Power lifts are the REAL money makers.

[TigerJ]

It would be fascinating to learn what various kinds of lifting and conditioning philosophies and practices are used around the NFL, and who else does Olympic style lifting. Anyone have an idea how to research that?

[BillsWin]

Powerlifting/Olympic lifting IS dangerous, squats, deadlifts and powercleans can snap bones, tear ligaments and destroy joints if your technique is awful.

Sometimes it takes just one bad squat or lift to tear something. Maybe you didn't arch your back properly. Or you bent at the knees too much. Its crazy.

[DBrown77]

our sack total from 2008-2009 went up didnt it? If it did i will credit the Kung Fu Master for you

[DesertFox24]

If it did i will credit the Kung Fu Master for you

Well did you credit him yet, because a simple search on NFL.com will reveal that it did.

[Strongman]

I agree that they're definitely more powerful, but then again could they run for 60 minutes and still break world power lifting records?

I'm not sure what your point is. I doubt the superheavies could run for 60 minutes, but then again, their sport doesn't require them to run for 60 minutes and then lift. Some of the lighter weight classes might be able to run for 60 minutes.

I'm pretty sure the Bills players will incorporate some aerobic conditioning into their workouts. They won't be one dimensional athletes.

[Strongman]

It would be fascinating to learn what various kinds of lifting and conditioning philosophies and practices are used around the NFL, and who else does Olympic style lifting. Anyone have an idea how to research that?

I think many were influenced by Bill Starr's philosophies surrounding weightlifting. I'm pretty sure most of them read his book Only the Strongest Shall Survive. Mostly it is using the "Big Three" exercises (benches, squats, deadlifts, plus some auxillary work) in a 5x5 format.

I know for a fact a former Bengal's strength coach (Kim Wood) used such a system plus he incorporated some odd object lifting (sandbags, kegs, etc.)

[TigerJ]

I think many were influenced by Bill Starr's philosophies surrounding weightlifting. I'm pretty sure most of them read his book Only the Strongest Shall Survive. Mostly it is using the "Big Three" exercises (benches, squats, deadlifts, plus some auxillary work) in a 5x5 format.

I know for a fact a former Bengal's strength coach (Kim Wood) used such a system plus he incorporated some odd object lifting (sandbags, kegs, etc.)

So, if the Bills go with Olympic style weightlifting, they may be going a bit against the grain?

[methos4ever]

So, if the Bills go with Olympic style weightlifting, they may be going a bit against the grain?
Some do it, some don't tiger. I know here at Pitt, our S&C Coach got away from the Olympic lifts because you need around 10,000 reps of each exercise to have it become muscle memory, so he's put our guys on a Russian style of lifting. Apparently, a lot of the collegiate S&C guys are Olympic fans and look down on the Russian methods. Buddy (our coach here) also helped out at UB before returning to Pitt.

Here's some info on him and I'll try to find the articles he gave me on the debate:
http://www.pittsburghpanthers.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/morris_buddy01.html

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/college/s_651027.html

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=117343831

And here's some video interviewing with him, going over how guys get injured during training and some of the keys to rehab:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkxt6r1Q8ls

[better days]

Sometimes it takes just one bad squat or lift to tear something. Maybe you didn't arch your back properly. Or you bent at the knees too much. Its crazy.

With all the injuries the Bills had last year, I'm not going to worry about that. I trust the trainers will have them do things properly.

[justasportsfan]

I hope we can get Donte to do Olympic style wrestling to so he can tackle better

[djjimkelly]

Powerlifting/Olympic lifting IS dangerous, squats, deadlifts and powercleans can snap bones, tear ligaments and destroy joints if your technique is awful.


i work out pretty hard 5'11 210 jacked

and i dont care what type of lifting you doing if your form is bad you will get hurt

and more importantly wont grow the same

i laugh when at the gym guys half my size using way more weight then im using wrenching their bodies to get it up and the look the same after training for 6 months

with proper form u should be able to make 135 or 315 feel the same

[jamze132]

So... we're not gonna do any P90X? I know a certain Bills fan who is going to be super pissed. :assclown:

[Strongman]

So, if the Bills go with Olympic style weightlifting, they may be going a bit against the grain?

Not really. I think most S&C coaches recognize how valuable Olympic lifting is. I'm sure many teams do use Olympic lifts or some of their variations like powercleans. Bill Starr advocates Olympic style lifting only when good coaching is available. A professional organization like the Bills will have good coaches that can teach the Olympic lifts.