Aaron Maybin

[patmoran2006]

http://tweetphoto.com/15922401

As I reported a few weeks ago, this dude has been working out like a fein. He's been training with the guy (cant remember his name now) that trains Ray Lewis and some other big time NFL LBs

According to him he's put on 10 pounds in the last month.

I know a lot of people don't like him right now, but I think with this new defense he's going to become a very good rush OLB in this league.

To me it's almost like we have another high rookie draft pick on this team already.

[mayotm]

How dare you even suggest that Maybin could improve now that he'll be playing the right position. He did nothing last year, thus he'll never be worth a damn.

Love,

Bills Zone

[billsburgh]

I'll believe it when he actually shows something on the field

[OpIv37]

Is he going to be fast enough to be effective when he puts on more weight though?

He was in the low 220's coming out of college and bulked up about 15-20 lbs before going to the NFL. Another 10 lbs and that's 30 lbs in a year. Granted, it's clearly muscle and not fat, but it's still another 30 lbs to move around.

[patmoran2006]

I get why people would be skeptical. . But in his defense, he was hardly put in a position to succeed under Jauron and Fewell.

He's got talent.

It's kinda like drafting a big, tall WR and then putting him in the slot.. It won't work

[ParanoidAndroid]

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[OpIv37]

How dare you even suggest that Maybin could improve now that he'll be playing the right position. He did nothing last year, thus he'll never be worth a damn.

Love,

Bills Zone

I love myopic arguments. The fact that he did nothing last year is only one of many arguments against Maybin. He only had one good year in college, he's undersized, he did literally nothing last year and could have had Orakpo round out the criticisms. This was a BAD pick that will haunt this organization for years.

I never root for Bills players to fail, and I hope this guy turns it around. But hope is different from expectations. Given his size, his short college career, and his complete lack of performance last season, there is no reason to expect that he'll turn around.

[Oaf]

http://tweetphoto.com/15922401

As I reported a few weeks ago, this dude has been working out like a fein. He's been training with the guy (cant remember his name now) that trains Ray Lewis and some other big time NFL LBs

According to him he's put on 10 pounds in the last month.

I know a lot of people don't like him right now, but I think with this new defense he's going to become a very good rush OLB in this league.

To me it's almost like we have another high rookie draft pick on this team already.
Well it will be like having another rookie out there, yes.

[DMBcrew36]

Well it will be like having another rookie out there, yes.

Hmm, nice, add him to a team that has mostly played like rookies for years now.

[dasaybz]

fiend

[OpIv37]

I don't know why you guys are so hard on Maybin. I mean, who else on this team is going to jump up and down like he won the Super Bowl every time he assists on a tackle?

[RockStar36]

Isn't he working out with Willis McGahee? And does that concern anybody here?

[RockStar36]

I don't know why you guys are so hard on Maybin. I mean, who else on this team is going to jump up and down like he won the Super Bowl every time he assists on a tackle?

I thought Chris Kelsay had that job locked down years ago.

[psubills62]

Is he going to be fast enough to be effective when he puts on more weight though?

He was in the low 220's coming out of college and bulked up about 15-20 lbs before going to the NFL. Another 10 lbs and that's 30 lbs in a year. Granted, it's clearly muscle and not fat, but it's still another 30 lbs to move around.

The reports on him coming out of college said that he has the frame to add weight and maintain his quickness. Honestly, how they truly know that, I'm not sure, though he does have a tall frame that should be able to support 250-260 pounds. I also don't know how long it might take him to get used to the extra weight.

However, I do believe that he'll benefit from a full offseason of real NFL training. Before the draft it was obvious he just wanted to add weight (he was at 249 for the NFL combine) and put up good numbers. Now he'll be used to the grind of the NFL and working out at all the minicamps and all of training camp. Hopefully it will help him.

[methos4ever]

http://tweetphoto.com/15922401

As I reported a few weeks ago, this dude has been working out like a fein. He's been training with the guy (cant remember his name now) that trains Ray Lewis and some other big time NFL LBs

According to him he's put on 10 pounds in the last month.

I know a lot of people don't like him right now, but I think with this new defense he's going to become a very good rush OLB in this league.

To me it's almost like we have another high rookie draft pick on this team already.
One thing that was universal about him coming out was because of his age he has the ability to grow into whatever a team wants him to be size wise. I think he'll be on the field and productive this year. When's your interview with him Pat?

[TacklingDummy]

Workout Warriors don't mean jack when you play like crap on the field.

[The Spaz]

Isn't he working out with Willis McGahee? And does that concern anybody here?

Also Ed Reed.

[RockStar36]

Also Ed Reed.

Well that doesn't bother me, but McGahee is a concern. I can't imagine him talking Buffalo up to Maybin very much.

[Jeff1220]

Most athletes who train to add bulk/weight also continue their speed workouts and agility workouts while adding that weight. They get used to it as it packs on. Speed for Maybin shouldn't be an issue.

[more cowbell]

I sure as hell hope he becomes a good player. I think he is immature and stupid but with that aside he has a new defense and new coaching staff to work with, so essentially a fresh start. Let's see if he can grow up.

[SquishDaFish]

I dont understand why everyone hates on the guy seriously. Is it his fault he was drafted higher then he should have been? Is it his fault the crap coaches we had put him at DE when it was obvious to everyone here he should of been learning OLB in the NFL?? I dont think any of that is his fault. Thats like saying ARod taking 200+M from the Rangers makes him a bad guy. Was it offered to him or did he demand it? It was offered so of course your going to take it LOL

[PECKERWOOD]

Those numbers are not correct, 10lbs of muscle in a month is impossible, sorry, but that's not realistic. You're lucky to put on 10lbs of muscle in a year, unless you're going through puberty, then I can see 10lbs of muscle in a year.

[PECKERWOOD]

Put it this way, that's like saying a 190lbs man could add 30 lbs of muscle in 3 months to compete in a heavyweight bodybuilding class, that's just not a realistic goal, I refuse to believe such puffery.

[SquishDaFish]

Those numbers are not correct, 10lbs of muscle in a month is impossible, sorry, but that's not realistic. You're lucky to put on 10lbs of muscle in a year, unless you're going through puberty, then I can see 10lbs of muscle in a year.

http://www.thefactsaboutfitness.com/research/fail.htm


For example, someone who weighs 180 pounds can expect to gain anywhere from 3-7 pounds of lean mass over a 6-week period. For every pound of muscle you gain, expect to add anywhere from 0.5 to 1 pound of fat. So, if you want to add 10 pounds of lean muscle, expect to gain roughly 15-20 pounds in weight.

[PECKERWOOD]

http://www.thefactsaboutfitness.com/research/fail.htm

I'm just telling you, it's unrealistic, you'll eventually hit plateaus, but in the beginning there is obvious progress, but then it slows down. Just trust me, the 10lbs Maybin likely put on, if he is lucky is 5lbs of muscle and the other half is likely fat but mostly water. He is probably on creatine and his muscles are retaining water better, once he stops taking the creatine the weight comes off.

[EDS]

Gaining six pounds in a week does not sound like a good plan and is sure to end in the same result as last season when he lost weight once camp started. He was bigger last year at this time.

[EDS]

I dont understand why everyone hates on the guy seriously. Is it his fault he was drafted higher then he should have been? Is it his fault the crap coaches we had put him at DE when it was obvious to everyone here he should of been learning OLB in the NFL?? I dont think any of that is his fault. Thats like saying ARod taking 200+M from the Rangers makes him a bad guy. Was it offered to him or did he demand it? It was offered so of course your going to take it LOL

Hate comes when you underperform the level at which you are compensated. This is not unique to athletes. Maybin is compensated like a high draft pick and thus has the expectation that he will perform to that level. Same with A-Rod making $250 million, if he is going to be the highest paid player by a wide margin than he has to play like the best player by a wide margin.

[better days]

Is he going to be fast enough to be effective when he puts on more weight though?

He was in the low 220's coming out of college and bulked up about 15-20 lbs before going to the NFL. Another 10 lbs and that's 30 lbs in a year. Granted, it's clearly muscle and not fat, but it's still another 30 lbs to move around.

Muscle not only weighs more than fat, it helps you to move around.

[better days]

I'm just telling you, it's unrealistic, you'll eventually hit plateaus, but in the beginning there is obvious progress, but then it slows down. Just trust me, the 10lbs Maybin likely put on, if he is lucky is 5lbs of muscle and the other half is likely fat but mostly water. He is probably on creatine and his muscles are retaining water better, once he stops taking the creatine the weight comes off.

The thing is Maybin is a YOUNG guy. As we get older & mature we naturally get bigger.

[TheBrownBear]

I'm just telling you, it's unrealistic, you'll eventually hit plateaus, but in the beginning there is obvious progress, but then it slows down. Just trust me, the 10lbs Maybin likely put on, if he is lucky is 5lbs of muscle and the other half is likely fat but mostly water. He is probably on creatine and his muscles are retaining water better, once he stops taking the creatine the weight comes off.

Most likely HGH or PHs. No other way you put on "lean muscle" like that.

[YardRat]

Well that doesn't bother me, but McGahee is a concern. I can't imagine him talking Buffalo up to Maybin very much.

I'd bet Edwards spoke to McGahee about Buffalo also, and that didn't stop him from signing.

I'm looking forward to see how not only Maybin, but also the POS, might improve and contribute in the new 34.

[nateodoms'bff]

A good friend of mine is a power lifter. I always bounce threads like this off him for his opinion. His point is always the same, these guys are paid to workout, eat right and train hard. In most cases they have been doing it for years. They're in amazing shape and their bodies work differently than ours do. Adding 10lbs of muscle in a month maybe extreme, but is not impossible.

[better days]

Most likely HGH or PHs. No other way you put on "lean muscle" like that.

An old guy like Seau needs HGH, a young guy not so much.

[Ickybaluky]

Based on his limited action last year, Maybin's problem isn't size it is getting off a block. Great pass rushers sense how they are being blocked and are able to counter it and defeat those blocks. Every time I saw Maybin on the field, he was engaged. He needs to shed quickly and let his natural speed take over.

That said, he is learning a new scheme and is still very inexperienced. It is too early to give up on him, and you have to hope that he will improve with coaching. Some guys do, some don't.

[PECKERWOOD]

A good friend of mine is a power lifter. I always bounce threads like this off him for his opinion. His point is always the same, these guys are paid to workout, eat right and train hard. In most cases they have been doing it for years. They're in amazing shape and their bodies work differently than ours do. Adding 10lbs of muscle in a month maybe extreme, but is not impossible.

Still, 10lbs of muscle in a month is at a rate of 120lbs of muscle in a year, no way that's possible, at the very least, I've never seen or heard of anybody doing that.

[Tourettes Guy]

It's not a matter of giving up. You see a guy like Trent Edwards for example. He's at least shown in small scopes the ability to perform at an NFL level.

Maybin had a whole season to show SOMETHING but failed to. Not even on special teams, where I'm willing to bet he was the only 1st rounder on the field in most cases.

Personally, I just didn't witness any real talent. Everybody speaks of his quickness but that sure didn't seem evident. He seemed rigid, stiff, awkward, and uncoordinated.

I'm sure I'll be personally attacked for describing the things I saw on TV, but hey, you can't win them all.

[TedMock]

Still, 10lbs of muscle in a month is at a rate of 120lbs of muscle in a year, no way that's possible, at the very least, I've never seen or heard of anybody doing that.
I went from 160 to 190 over one summer because I was busting my butt with my coaches to put on muscle weight. Oddly, that was 13 years ago and I've only gained 5 pounds since. I have no more muscle though.

Anyway, hanging out with Mo'Nique can make you put on weight real fast!

[OpIv37]

I dont understand why everyone hates on the guy seriously. Is it his fault he was drafted higher then he should have been? Is it his fault the crap coaches we had put him at DE when it was obvious to everyone here he should of been learning OLB in the NFL?? I dont think any of that is his fault. Thats like saying ARod taking 200+M from the Rangers makes him a bad guy. Was it offered to him or did he demand it? It was offered so of course your going to take it LOL

It's his fault he held out and lost all that training time.

It's his fault he did absolutely NOTHING in the limited chances he had.

[TacklingDummy]

Trade Myabin and a 3rd to the Eagles to the Eagles

[SquishDaFish]

TD are you drunk?

[Jaybird]

Put it this way, that's like saying a 190lbs man could add 30 lbs of muscle in 3 months to compete in a heavyweight bodybuilding class, that's just not a realistic goal, I refuse to believe such puffery.

when you have control of your body you can do it. 10lbs a month does not translate to 30 lbs over 3 months.

I hit the gym 6 days a week for the past 12 years. I can add 5 pounds or drop 5 pounds within 10 days.

[Throne Logic]

I never root for Bills players to fail, and I hope this guy turns it around. But hope is different from expectations. Given his size, his short college career, and his complete lack of performance last season, there is no reason to expect that he'll turn around.

A full off-season training program, attending OTCs and training camp, a full NFL season's experience, better coaching, and playing in a more appropriate position.

Plenty of reasons for me to give the kid a shot before calling him a wasted pick.

[Throne Logic]

when you have control of your body you can do it. 10lbs a month does not translate to 30 lbs over 3 months.

I hit the gym 6 days a week for the past 12 years. I can add 5 pounds or drop 5 pounds within 10 days.

Man, I do that overnight. Five lbs of Chinese food in for dinner, then five pounds out after my morning coffee.

[SABURZFAN]

Still, 10lbs of muscle in a month is at a rate of 120lbs of muscle in a year, no way that's possible, at the very least, I've never seen or heard of anybody doing that.



nobody's claiming that he gained 120 lbs either so your argument from this standpoint is useless.

[PECKERWOOD]

Trade Myabin and a 3rd to the Eagles to the Eagles

HAHA!!! It seems stupid now, but you said the same thing about trading Marshawn when his stock was still up.

[PECKERWOOD]

when you have control of your body you can do it. 10lbs a month does not translate to 30 lbs over 3 months.

I hit the gym 6 days a week for the past 12 years. I can add 5 pounds or drop 5 pounds within 10 days.

Oh, I bet.

My weight fluctuates in the 5lbs range, but that still doesn't mean that the weight I'm gaining or losing is muscle, it doesn't mean that at all.

[TacklingDummy]

TD are you drunk?
:lol: yeah I was.

Meant to say, trade Maybin and a 3rd to the Eagles for McNabb.

[Saratoga Slim]

I love myopic arguments. The fact that he did nothing last year is only one of many arguments against Maybin. He only had one good year in college, he's undersized, he did literally nothing last year and could have had Orakpo round out the criticisms. This was a BAD pick that will haunt this organization for years.

I never root for Bills players to fail, and I hope this guy turns it around. But hope is different from expectations. Given his size, his short college career, and his complete lack of performance last season, there is no reason to expect that he'll turn around.

If the arguments against Maybin succedding are the ones you list above, then I'm pumped.

First of all, he's undersized for a DE. But he's 6-4 and somewhere around 250-260. That's not even CLOSE to undersized as a 3-4 OLB, it's pretty much prototypical size.

Second, it's very possible that he did nothing last year because he was a) a rookie and b) playing the wrong position.

Third, the fact that he only had one impressive college season before leaving school early isn't an argument against his talent. Sure, it'd be more reasonable to get excited about him now if he had a longer record of production, but at the same time, the fact that he was a young rookie is another reason to give him a pass on last year.

'Myopic' means that someone's taking a very limited or narrow view of a situation, and I don't see how that applies to mayotm's post. There are very good reasons to be excited about Maybin's chances as a 3-4 OLB, just as there are reasons to be cautious.

[HHURRICANE]

http://tweetphoto.com/15922401

As I reported a few weeks ago, this dude has been working out like a fein. He's been training with the guy (cant remember his name now) that trains Ray Lewis and some other big time NFL LBs

According to him he's put on 10 pounds in the last month.

I know a lot of people don't like him right now, but I think with this new defense he's going to become a very good rush OLB in this league.

To me it's almost like we have another high rookie draft pick on this team already.


Well he'll look good for the beach.

If I had a dollar for every workout warrior who couldn't play football I'd be a billionaire.