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  • Pinkerton Security
    Pinkerton's son
    • Feb 2006
    • 6003

    The case for trading for Gaither..

    One side effect of moving the unrestricted free agent (UFA) bar from four to six years has been the increase in the potential interest around the league for restricted free agent (RFA) trade options and aging UFA veterans. The evidence for this can be found in the daily postings on the Insider Rumor Central section that detail the plethora of deals and signings of this nature that are being considered around the league.
    While many of these potential transactions would be sensible, there are three that the numbers say would be slam-dunk winners.

    The first of these is Baltimore Ravens LT Jared Gaither. Gaither has been a starter for the past two seasons, and in that time his metrics have been nothing short of superb. He has allowed only seven total sacks in 27 games and only one of these was a "one-on-one sack" (defined as when a defender beats a blocker in a one-on-one environment and tackles the quarterback in the pocket within three seconds of the snap).
    That illustrates Gaither's dominant pass-blocking skills, but his run-blocking numbers are also quite notable. Gaither was at the point of attack (POA) on 300 running plays the past two years, and he won his block 255 times, or 85 percent of the time.
    That is a solid number on its own, but his 2009 POA win rate of 89.0 percent is even more noteworthy. To put that total into perspective, consider that in a typical NFL season, fewer than one out of 10 offensive linemen will crack the 90 percent POA win mark. Gaither was on the precipice of that mark last year despite battling injuries.
    Put these two factors together and it equals a truly elite blindside blocker. Add to this the question marks surrounding many of the left tackles in this year's draft and it means Gaither is hands down the best choice in the market at his position, especially since acquiring him reportedly will cost only a second-round pick.



    KC Joyner tackles (pardon the pun) three restricted free agents who would legitimately benefit a new squad: Jared Gaither, Brian Westbrook and Brandon Marshall. Why -- and where should they head?



    I would be a huge fan of this..he is a young, athletic tackle who is proven as a dominant tackle...isnt that WELL worth a 2nd rounder, especially if we're planning on getting a tackle in the 2nd or 1st anyways (which I'd hope we are, at least in one of those rounds)? I know it has been discussed but seeing these metrics really proves his value to me.
    Last edited by Pinkerton Security; 04-01-2010, 01:55 PM.

  • TrEd FTW
    Registered User
    • Sep 2008
    • 647

    #2
    Re: The case for trading for Gaither..

    Honestly, if Gaither gets traded for less than a first-rounder (which is the likelihood) and it's not to Buffalo, I am going to be absolutely livid.

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    • Jaybird
      Registered User
      • Dec 2005
      • 1908

      #3
      Re: The case for trading for Gaither..

      I am all for it. This way we have flexibility with the first round pick. It's no secret that we must find a LT. Gaither is a proven NFL player who is still young and could play the position for the next 10 years. To me that is more valuable then drafting a LT, who could always be a bust

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      • Pinkerton Security
        Pinkerton's son
        • Feb 2006
        • 6003

        #4
        Re: The case for trading for Gaither..

        Originally posted by TrEd FTW
        Honestly, if Gaither gets traded for less than a first-rounder (which is the likelihood) and it's not to Buffalo, I am going to be absolutely livid.
        Idk how exactly this works, can someone fill me in...

        so they gave him a 2nd round tender, right? Do we offer them our 2nd rounder, or do we offer him a contract and if he signs it, we give our 2nd? What if another team also offers, who gets the right to sign him first? I guess i never really thought much about how exactly it works?

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        • patmoran2006
          Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
          • Dec 2005
          • 19840

          #5
          Re: The case for trading for Gaither..

          Originally posted by pinkdogg32
          Idk how exactly this works, can someone fill me in...

          so they gave him a 2nd round tender, right? Do we offer them our 2nd rounder, or do we offer him a contract and if he signs it, we give our 2nd? What if another team also offers, who gets the right to sign him first? I guess i never really thought much about how exactly it works?
          They gave him a first round tender.

          it's suggested that a team could trade with Baltimore for a second rounder though.

          If that's true, it would take me a half second to offer #41 for Gaither.


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          • patmoran2006
            Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
            • Dec 2005
            • 19840

            #6
            Re: The case for trading for Gaither..

            To answer your question directly. Without a trade, if someone wanted Gaither they would have to give up their first rounder if Baltimore didnt match the offer.

            Obviously for Buffalo, that would be the ninth pick.


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            • Night Train
              Retired - On Several Levels
              • Jul 2005
              • 33117

              #7
              Re: The case for trading for Gaither..

              As I mentioned in another thread, both his college & pro coach said he's talented but has a poor work ethic. This is why the Ravens won't give him the big $$ and it's not just because Oher is on the roster. Why haven't other teams lined up with offers ?

              He's looking for his big payday and his work ethic is already being questioned ?

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              • jamze132
                Don’t hate…
                • Jun 2003
                • 29423

                #8
                Re: The case for trading for Gaither..

                Lynch for Gaither and we swap 1st rounders.

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                • ddaryl
                  Everything I post is sexual inuendo
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 10714

                  #9
                  Re: The case for trading for Gaither..

                  The Bills could (or If the Bills can) trade back from #9 possibly add a 2nd rounder and some change to their draft day. Still get a solid pick in the 1st rd at a position of need, Use one of our 2nd's for Gaither and still have good ammunition to fill in some gaps...

                  This would be one of the best draft day scenarios for us IMO....

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                  • SirMcGee
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 382

                    #10
                    Re: The case for trading for Gaither..

                    The Ravens need a Safety. I'd offer our 2nd and Whitner for Gaither and a mid to late round draft pick (maybe a 5th or 6th).
                    DRAFT WISHLIST
                    1) BRYAN BULAGA - OT/IOWA
                    2) JONATHON DWYER - RB/GA TECH
                    3) JASON WORILDS - OLB/ VA. TECH
                    4) TORRELL TROUP - NT/CENTRAL FLORIDA

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                    • ddaryl
                      Everything I post is sexual inuendo
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 10714

                      #11
                      Re: The case for trading for Gaither..

                      Originally posted by SirMcGee
                      The Ravens need a Safety. I'd offer our 2nd and Whitner for Gaither and a mid to late round draft pick (maybe a 5th or 6th).

                      I really don't think it will take that much

                      the 2nd alone is enough

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                      • SirMcGee
                        Registered User
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 382

                        #12
                        Re: The case for trading for Gaither..

                        Originally posted by ddaryl
                        I really don't think it will take that much

                        the 2nd alone is enough
                        I know it wouldnt take much. Whitners garbage anyways.
                        DRAFT WISHLIST
                        1) BRYAN BULAGA - OT/IOWA
                        2) JONATHON DWYER - RB/GA TECH
                        3) JASON WORILDS - OLB/ VA. TECH
                        4) TORRELL TROUP - NT/CENTRAL FLORIDA

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                        • Buddo
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 1864

                          #13
                          Re: The case for trading for Gaither..

                          Like with so many of these guys, it isn't about their talent or ability, it's about what they want to do with it.
                          Without wishing to harp on about this sort of stuff, as it isn't the be all end all, Gaither was bounced from college for academic reasons. Chances are he's dumb as a rock. Giving a guy like that, more money than he can handle, when he already has a questionable work ethic, seems like a recipe for disaster.
                          Football isn't an intellectual pursuit, especially in the trenches, but to be consistently good, you have to have an unmitigated desire to play the game, and to consequently prepare yourself the best way you can. I think there are serious doubts about Gaither wanting to be that good, which is why the Ravens aren't too concerned about moving him, providing they can get a decent enough pick.

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                          • Night Train
                            Retired - On Several Levels
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 33117

                            #14
                            Re: The case for trading for Gaither..

                            Originally posted by Buddo
                            Like with so many of these guys, it isn't about their talent or ability, it's about what they want to do with it.
                            Without wishing to harp on about this sort of stuff, as it isn't the be all end all, Gaither was bounced from college for academic reasons. Chances are he's dumb as a rock. Giving a guy like that, more money than he can handle, when he already has a questionable work ethic, seems like a recipe for disaster.
                            Football isn't an intellectual pursuit, especially in the trenches, but to be consistently good, you have to have an unmitigated desire to play the game, and to consequently prepare yourself the best way you can. I think there are serious doubts about Gaither wanting to be that good, which is why the Ravens aren't too concerned about moving him, providing they can get a decent enough pick.
                            Wait. Are we talking about Gaither or Jason Peters ?
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                            • nateodoms'bff
                              Registered User
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 342

                              #15
                              Re: The case for trading for Gaither..

                              anyone know what the difference in point value is between trading the 2nd round pick fo Gaither, and swapping firsts and getting an extra 3rd from Baltimore for Gaither?

                              That seems like a good trade to me.

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