Kiper vs McShay

[BuffaloBlitz83]

I like McShay better.

[T-Long]

Re: Kiper vs McShay

McShay is getting killed by a lot of scouts and his evaluations. Kiper has done this for much longer and is much better in my opinion.

Mike Mayock though is the real deal. That guy is the best in my opinion.

[better days]

Re: Kiper vs McShay

McShay is getting killed by a lot of scouts and his evaluations. Kiper has done this for much longer and is much better in my opinion.

Mike Mayock though is the real deal. That guy is the best in my opinion.

I agree with everything you said. I will say that because of the time he has put in Kiper has developed some contacts in the league.

[The Spaz]

Re: Kiper vs McShay

Kiper by a mile. Say what you want about his hair but I like his analysis. He might not be right but I like him. Also I grew up loving the draft and Kiper has always been there, a true draft icon!

[DraftBoy]

Re: Kiper vs McShay

Kiper despite the grief he gets is still the man imo.

Mayock is closing the gap though.

I dont mind McShay I just think he tries too hard at times.

[Ed]

Re: Kiper vs McShay

People like to bash Kiper because he's not 100% right all the time, but no one in football ever has been, even guys like Bill Polian. He still knows a ton more then the average fan though.

[JCBills]

Re: Kiper vs McShay

Kiper hands down.

McShay talks out of his ass.

[Raptor]

Re: Kiper vs McShay

Kiper by a MILE

I think Kiper gets more **** then he deserves but for the longest time he was the only dog in the show so it comes with the territory

McShay to put it bluntly just doesnt know how to spot talent IMO

I like Mayock but to be honest I think he is the opposite of Kiper in that he gets more praise then he deserves

[Night Train]

Re: Kiper vs McShay

Kiper in the 1980's used to answer the phone in his house when ordering his guide and talk to you about players as long as you wanted.

He's a very nice guy and writes solid evaluations.

McShay is inconsistent.

[BILLSROCK1212]

Re: Kiper vs McShay

It's all about contacts:

Kiper has developed contacts over the years and has done more for the league than he has to show for it.

McShay is a wannabe and should stop being a snob and prove himself instead of just half-assing his work, which he clearly does.

Mayock knows his stuff and works hard and has proved himself. I'm very impressed and trust him very much.

[elltrain22]

Re: Kiper vs McShay

Kiper is an ***clown. Kiper is seriously one of my least favorite guys on tv. I hate his voice, I hate his opinions, I hate his hair, and I hate it how he is seriously offended when anyone thinks he is wrong.

McShay is alright I guess. Def not as self-loathing, and I have never been extremely annoyed at him like I do w/ Kiper.

[JCBills]

Re: Kiper vs McShay

Kiper is an ***clown. Kiper is seriously one of my least favorite guys on tv. I hate his voice, I hate his opinions, I hate his hair, and I hate it how he is seriously offended when anyone thinks he is wrong.

McShay is alright I guess. Def not as self-loathing, and I have never been extremely annoyed at him like I do w/ Kiper.

According to McShay, Snead is a top 5 pick.

[Ingtar33]

Re: Kiper vs McShay

neither. i remember how much we laughed at Kiper back in the day. Don't get me wrong.... he's a passionate guy who loves football but his actual knowledge is pretty poor for how long he's been doing this. Most of his "accuracy" comes through contacts with teams front offices and using their evaluations on the players to rate them, not through actual evaluation.



Mayock is the only guy i've seen on TV who can make an intelligent point or observation about the draft.

[BuffaloBlitz83]

Re: Kiper vs McShay

Anyone got a link to Mayock's latest mock?

[don137]

Re: Kiper vs McShay

McShay vs. Kiper is like the who is the tallest dwarf....Both do not hold a candle to Mayock.