With Miller in that altercation last night, I hope to see a little more support from the team. I'd also like to see that hit on Myers in the corner again. It looked like Callahan launched himself at him.
I hope Miller doesn't have to fight his own battles
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are you talking about the one in the 3rd period?
Tiny Derek Roy grabbed the dude from behind and Lydman came right in- the other guys had their backs turned and were already headed up ice for the breakout so they probably didn't see it.
Don't get me wrong- in general, the defense of Miller has been spotty at best. But in this particular case, I think Lydman and Roy handled it well. Miller was just in the guy's face because he was so pissed.
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Originally posted by OpIv37are you talking about the one in the 3rd period?
Tiny Derek Roy grabbed the dude from behind and Lydman came right in- the other guys had their backs turned and were already headed up ice for the breakout so they probably didn't see it.
Don't get me wrong- in general, the defense of Miller has been spotty at best. But in this particular case, I think Lydman and Roy handled it well. Miller was just in the guy's face because he was so pissed.
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Originally posted by chernobylwraithsThey handled it right? Miller was bumped into/run AGAIN and had to get in the guy's face himself. Roy grabbed him from behind because that is the best he could do and Lydman just made sure to push him away from Miller. A guy runs your goalie, you gotta DO something and we rarely do. Unless Rivet, Montadour, Gaustad, Mair are on the ice.
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why does everybody think because you hit somebody back after they run the goalie that they will stop running the goalie? very strange belief amongst hockey fans. the only way to stop a guy from running the goalie is to use your hockey stick as a baseball bat to his face. torterella's teams are infamous for running goalies. think there might be a coincidence there? I would suspect they would continue to run them as long as he tells them to run them. fans need to get over this emotion - it serves no purpose. these are free thinking NHL professional hockey players who will continue to run the goalie regardless what you do.
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i hope the sabres run the opposing goalies. it's clear they don't want to fight over miller getting run, but it would be awesome if they responded with a mamoth running of the opposing goalie. that'd show some real brass and make a playoff series quite enjoyable.
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Originally posted by OpIv37Well it would have been nice if Gaustad or Mair, or even Grier or Torres, were there to really stomp the guy, but I think Roy and Lydman did about the most they're capable of, which is more than what Vanek, Connolly, Pominville, Kennedy, Hecht, Butler or Sekera would have done.
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Originally posted by Ebenezerwhy does everybody think because you hit somebody back after they run the goalie that they will stop running the goalie? very strange belief amongst hockey fans. the only way to stop a guy from running the goalie is to use your hockey stick as a baseball bat to his face. torterella's teams are infamous for running goalies. think there might be a coincidence there? I would suspect they would continue to run them as long as he tells them to run them. fans need to get over this emotion - it serves no purpose. these are free thinking NHL professional hockey players who will continue to run the goalie regardless what you do.
I find it strange that you say they won't stop running the goalie unless you take your stick across their face though.
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Originally posted by RockStar36Roy stood up for his teammates twice last night and from what I can tell, that is two more times than he has all season. I was very pleased with that.
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Originally posted by chernobylwraithsIf there is retribution, players will be less likely to go after the goalie. Sure, they will still bump goalies, but they will do it less often. No hockey fan wants to see their team back down all the time and allow their star players to be pushed around.
I find it strange that you say they won't stop running the goalie unless you take your stick across their face though.
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Originally posted by EbenezerThat's false, it's been proven to be false and will always be false. Retribution does not equal less goalie running. It's just not true. the guys on HNIC, NHLN, Paul Hamilton and other reporters have all said the same thing. There are certain coaches and certain players that will continually run goalies regardless what you do to retaliate unless you physically take that player out of the game (hence the stick across the face comment)...and when that guy is out of the game they will just send somebody else out there to run the goalie. Retailiation does not decrease it; it's a misconception.
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Originally posted by chernobylwraithsIt is more than I've ever seen from him, even if the only thing he did is grab them.
Even if Roy doesn't drop the gloves, I think him standing up for his teammates sends a message to the rest of the team.
I'm ok with what Roy did. I'm not so sure I'd even want him dropping his gloves.
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