Source: Steelers would explore trade for Roethlisberger

[The Spaz]

The Pittsburgh Steelers have had no dialogue with other teams about dealing embattled quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, but have had significant internal discussions about the matter, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

According to the source, ownership remains dismayed and embarrassed by Roethlisberger's actions in a Georgia college town this offseason and find his string of other offseason incidents troubling. The team has been monitoring the public backlash against Roethlisberger closely.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8178b2b1&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

[The Spaz]

interested anyone?

[Yasgur's Farm]

I'm not sure I am.

[TonyIncredible]

but who does that leave them with batch? LMAO! Even though he's caused them embarrassment I don't think they trade him without asking for some high tenders. I don't think the steelers want to take a plunge down to mediocrity

[Ebenezer]

interested anyone?
Al Davis would take him in Oakland. Pitts could grab one of the kids and rebuild on the fly.

[Dying_-2-_Live]

His contract is HUGE... and he's a bum... PASS

[justasportsfan]

interested anyone?
Redskins or Tigers mistresses

[TacklingDummy]

Edwards, Whitner, and Lynch for Big Ben.

[Dying_-2-_Live]

Well.... actually.... his contract is a little smaller than I thought, but im still gonna say no unless we can get him for a couple 2nd's ( one this year, one next )

[patmoran2006]

This is PURE speculation, but if Pitt were to trade him ( I dont buy they would, I just think they have a real pissed off owner right now)

I'd imagine they'd want at least as much as Denver got for Cutler.

[Bulldog]

His contract is HUGE... and he's a bum... PASS


Calling Roethlisberger a bum is outlandish. Stupid, yes. But the guy can play the game at a high level. I'd take him in a NY second.

[THRILLHO]

Give up 2 first rounders. Do it, done. Steelers will not trade him, but we should be looking into this atleast. A proven QB, build a line around him. You can say whatever you want about how you think he sucks, or is a bum. He has 2 superbowl rings, is a great passer, and is better than any other option. This is an opportunity you do not pass on. If it is there at all, like I said, they will not trade him.

[Ed]

No thanks. It would cost way too much and he's a giant douche. Plus he gets to play for one of the most well run organizations in all of sports, which I think makes him seem better then he actually is.

[Ebenezer]

This is PURE speculation, but if Pitt were to trade him ( I dont buy they would, I just think they have a real pissed off owner right now)

I'd imagine they'd want at least as much as Denver got for Cutler.
Al Davis would be the type to give Pitts the #8 overall and more.

[BillsWin]

I think a first and a second rounder would get him.

In my opinion, the Rams should explore offering their first overall pick.

St. Louis gets a proven franchise QB. Sure he comes with baggage, but they are desperate and to be quite frank, I don't think that team/front office would even know how to raise a young QB.

Also, Pittsburgh gets a shot at Bradford. You won't have to worry about him getting into trouble with the law.

[wmoz11]

I think a first and a second rounder would get him.

In my opinion, the Rams should explore offering their first overall pick.

St. Louis gets a proven franchise QB. Sure he comes with baggage, but they are desperate and to be quite frank, I don't think that team/front office would even know how to raise a young QB.

Also, Pittsburgh gets a shot at Bradford. You won't have to worry about him getting into trouble with the law.

Would Pittsburgh even want the first overall pick? I'm not so sure they would.

[Ickybaluky]

but who does that leave them with batch? LMAO! Even though he's caused them embarrassment I don't think they trade him without asking for some high tenders. I don't think the steelers want to take a plunge down to mediocrity

Dennis Dixon is the backup, Batch is the 3rd QB. Mike Tomlin is reportedly really likes Dixon.

It is hard to imagine the Steelers trading him, because he is one of the best QB in the NFL. However, he is also a serial rapist, so I can see where they may consider other options.

[ddaryl]

I would rather make a huge move in 2011 for a franchise QB... Ben's extra curriculum activities make me not want to even consider him here.

[trapezeus]

So the bills are interested in the QB they wanted originally but missed out on. I wonder how Ben does behind a crap line that the bills currently have.

[TonyIncredible]

Dennis Dixon is the backup, Batch is the 3rd QB. Mike Tomlin is reportedly really likes Dixon.

It is hard to imagine the Steelers trading him, because he is one of the best QB in the NFL. However, he is also a serial rapist, so I can see where they may consider other options.
truly noted and i do agree to a degree but what I'm saying is the QBs they do have on their roster are not going to produce right off the bat. They would end up with a 8-8 record at best mostly in part by their defense.

He may be high on Dixon but the question is are the fans? If they have 3 to 4 seasons of no producing they'll be calling for Tomlin's head mark it down! It will not sit well for the fans from going and being one of the most big powerhouses to being reduced down to basement feeders with the browns.

Take last season for instance with the injury big ben sustained, the steelers weren't the same. It goes to show that even if he is a rapist and so fourth he is their franchise at the moment.

[wmoz11]

So the bills are interested in the QB they wanted originally but missed out on. I wonder how Ben does behind a crap line that the bills currently have.

The Steelers' line is every bit as bad.

[ddaryl]

The Steelers' line is every bit as bad.

I disagre, the steelers line might be bad, but.. Our OL is the cadillac of craptasticness. mostly because of the huge unkown we have at T's, and the lack of experience the majority of the OL has....

[FlyingDutchman]

Hes a *****. no

[billz83]

The bills are too cheap to go after him end of story.

[trapezeus]

if ben's on the blocks, i guarantee the bills are asking about it.

if they want an upstanding young gentleman of a QB, we have trent to offer.

and ddaryl got my point, the bills line was like unprecedentedly bad last year. I've never seen anything like it. none of our QB's had more than 3 seconds to get rid of a pass. no one survives behind this line as is.

That being said, i trust that nix realizes the same thing.

[cpearl]

Compared to OJ, this guy is a saint.

Get er done Ralphie.

[TheBrownBear]

he is also a serial rapist, so I can see where they may consider other options.

Lock up yer daughters and bring him in!

[RockStar36]

Rumors have been circulating that St. Louis was willing to discuss this year's number one pick and their number one pick next season for Ben.

[Jaybird]

I am surprised that almost everyone is against bringing him in. I know it would require a lot in return, however, Big Ben is a Big winner and a great QB

[ZAZusmc03]

I think he would be worth whatever they are asked for to bring him in. He is an awesome QB that thrives even with a crap O Line. He is exactly what we need until our O Line is up to par. I'd rather have him with his so-called "issues" shaking off sacks than some rookie getting his head knocked off and put on IR.

[Lexwhat]

A 28-year old, 2-time Super Bowl winning QB on the trading block?

I'm not a historian, but this is almost unprecedented.

I would be shocked if the Steelers ownership actually went through with this. This trade could make them irrelevant for years to come. Although, I must admit, I admire Rooney for taking a stand and at least wanting to do the right thing.


Anyways, for the whiny baby, JAY CUTLER, who has accomplished nothing in this league, the Bears gave up two 1st-Rounders, a 3rd-Rounder, and a serviceable NFL starting Quarterback in Kyle Orton.

Think about how much Big Ben would cost.

[Lexwhat]

Well.... actually.... his contract is a little smaller than I thought, but im still gonna say no unless we can get him for a couple 2nd's ( one this year, one next )

Two 2nd-Round picks for Big Ben? Get real.

We're not talking about a Wide Receiver here.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

From what I hear, the ownership started the dialog. Part of the reason I think is to give Ben something seriously to think about.

As you can imagine there is a lot of opposition of this idea within Steelers' organization. Dixon is an instersting idea and everyone here knows Tomlin is very high on him.

I expect nothing coming out of this.

BTW, I never met Ben myself, coming close one time at a function but he's surrounded by ladies and I didn't want to be the only guy pushing women around to get to him. But I hear a lot of bad stories from all kinds of people, corp. executives to my hair dresser. Basically, he's kind of guy who actually walked over to a group of girls/ladies he never met before and whipping out his little boy and asking "who wants to s*ck on it?"

[Ingtar33]

i'd trade for him on the spot. if they're thinking about it... i'd offer a lot right away... up to 2 firsts for him plus a player or two... maybe even more picks. you don't find franchise QBs on the tradeblock often. i'd trade for him in a heartbeat.

[Prov401]

I wouldn't even have to think about it. The guy is a proven winner. He consistantly takes his team down the field in the 4th quarter to win games. This guy is a SB winning QB. Whoever wouldn't take him is crazy. I'd seriously give up our first this year AND next year in a flash for Ben.

[Prov401]

Hes a *****. no

It's a business. I work with a ton of *****s. But they do their job well. And Ben does his job pretty f****** good.

[Night Train]

I posted this trade thought in another thread and was laughed at the other day.

The Rooneys see their fanbase as 20 times greater than any single player on the roster. This ain't Madden, kids.

[Buffalogic]

Roethlisberger has been paid like 35 million on his contract already so anyone who thinks that his 'huge' contract is a hangup in a possible trade are wrong. It's actually a very appealing contract to take on because the steelers will still be paying guaranteed money to him.

I'd trade the 9th overall for big ben in a heartbeat. He's an elite 2 time superbowl champion, clearly top 5 at his position and proven to make his teams better.

[ddaryl]

and what happens when he get into another altercation with a female ?

What happens if this time he is found guilty ??

Would it be worth it to set this franchise back another 10 years trading for a player who obviously has issues he needs to deal with ?

I don't think having Big Ben on your roster is a wise move for any team. He, IMO, is destined to get caught. He has a problem and my bet is the only way he'll get help for it is when its already too late.

I think the Bills should bring in their own guy and build the team themsleves. No QB trades or FA pickups, unless its a cheap temp option. If necessary just wait until 2011 and make a move for a franchise QB then. Ben is a headache this franchise could never afford, because once he is suspended we've lost everything...

[alnilla]

First super bowl he was the starting QB thats all he did nothing special in the super bowl. Average QB with great supporting cast = a good qb. I would be pissed as a bills fan if we gave two first rounds and second and w/e for the rapist.

[djjimkelly]

i would go get him in a heartbeat id even swap 1st rounders

[LVGrown]

Rumors have been circulating that St. Louis was willing to discuss this year's number one pick and their number one pick next season for Ben.

A guy I used to work with just texted me and said he's hearing talk about Rams and Bills being interested, I guess this confirms the Rams rumors, but haven't heard or read anything about Bills. I wouldn't be surprised considering the connection with Doug Whaley. Should be an interesting week ...

[Buffalogic]

I'd throw a party if we got big ben for our 9th overall. Nothing more than that though, 9 for ben or pass.

Get it done front office!

[Night Train]

Anyone know where I can custom order a #7 Ben Rapist jersey ?

[X-Era]

Werent the Steelers sniffing around Roscoe Parrish...

Straight up trade, whos with me?

Ok fine,

lets throw in:
John McCargo
Keith Ellison
Chris Kelsay
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Trent Edwards
Keith Mitchell
Derek Schooman
.
.
.
Seems fair

[X-Era]

Anyone know where I can custom order a #7 Ben Rapist jersey ?

I know where you can get a Ben Dover tee shirt:

http://rlv.zcache.com/ben_dover_used_car_sales_tshirt-p235099454308776804yqt2_400.jpg

[Ickybaluky]

From the victim's statement to police:


Ben asked us to go to his 'VIP' area. . . . We all went with him. He said there were shots for us, numerous shots were on the bar, and he told us to take them. His bodyguard came and took my arm and said come with me, he escorted me into a side door/hallway, and sat me on a stool. He left and Ben came back with his penis out of his pants. I told him it wasn't OK, no, we don't need to do this and I proceeded to get up and try to leave. I went to the first door I saw, which happened to be a bathroom. He followed me into the bathroom and shut the door behind him. I still said no, this is not OK, and he then had sex with me. He said it was OK. He then left without saying anything. I went out of the hallway/door to the side where I saw my friends. We left [the club] and went to the first police car we saw.

He is getting at least a 4 game, maybe as much as 8. If it happens again, he is going to be out of the league a long time. Her friends statements match up to hers as well. The only reason he isn't going to jail is because she was drunk. Here initial statement was not as detailed because she was still hammered.

[The Spaz]

From the victim's statement to police:



He is getting at least a 4 game, maybe as much as 8. If it happens again, he is going to be out of the league a long time. Her friends statements match up to hers as well. The only reason he isn't going to jail is because she was drunk. Here initial statement was not as detailed because she was still hammered.

Wow!

[Commissioner]

There's no way I would want Ben Roethlisraper on the team i root for....

If it's true what they said he did.... then he's a total scumbag... and I don't care how talented he is.

I'm not down for winning at ALL COSTS.....

[Dicknoze69]

He is getting at least a 4 game, maybe as much as 8. If it happens again, he is going to be out of the league a long time. Her friends statements match up to hers as well. The only reason he isn't going to jail is because she was drunk. Here initial statement was not as detailed because she was still hammered.

I thought the police report statements from the victim's friends were as damning, especially considering they were more sober. Here's some tidbits:

"Meanwhile, we detected a strong degree of consistency and credibility regarding the statements from the alleged victim's friends, who nevertheless could contribute only circumstantial evidence to the investigation, since no one saw the exchange between Roethlisberger and the alleged victim. For example, Ann Marie Lubatti said that she saw Roethlisberger's bodyguards guide the alleged victim to a side door, and that two minutes later she saw Roethlisberger walk back there. "I immediately went up to the other bodyguard and said, 'this isn't right,'" Lubatti said in her statement. "'My friend is back there with Ben. She needs to come back right now.' The bodyguard wouldn't look at me, he just said, 'I don't know what you are talking about.'"

Lubatti wrote that she saw Nicole Biancofiore approach the manager of the nightclub, and that Biancofiore told him to unlock the door to the hallway. The manager said, "Ben's an NFL quarterback, he won't do anything to ruin his reputation."

Lubatti also corroborates the allegation from the alleged victim's legible statement regarding Roethlisbergers "penis already out of his pants."

Nicole Biancofiore's statement corroborates much of Lubatti's, but does not mention the remark about Roethlisberger exposing himself upon entering the room."

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/15/witness-statements-make-bad-situation-worse-for-roethlisberger/

[Buffalogic]

Ya not to mention this girl was so piss drunk she wouldnt remember ****. The girl was blackout drunk. Even she doesnt know what happened. IMO that report is bull**** and the girl is a liar. Like they usually are in these situations. She has something to gain by saying this about Roethlisberger. For all we know it could have been totally consentual but the media and americans love tearing down high profile people so the 'rapelisberger' stuff runs rampant.

[Buffalogic]

Once her and her friends sobered up enough to realize she was sexing with big ben there leaves plenty of time to agree upon a story and alleged details of that night. Most people are killing ben painting him to be this creep. I bet he was super trashed too and had these young college girls just throwin their little chicken asses at him and when he took the bait they figured they could take advantage of the situation.

[Commissioner]

You don't find it odd that this is the 2nd or 3rd time he's been accused of this?

Roethlisraper is a sexual predator...

[jamze132]

**** it, let's bring him in! Guy is a pretty damn good QB!

[Buffalogic]

This is the second time. Allegedly. And the first time was in the hedonistic spawning ground of lake tahoe. These girls are probably lining up to give it up to him hoping to get him hooked so they can live their fairy tale lives of spending all his money. Then when he hits it and quits it they cry and want revenge. Nobody truly knows either way but I can see ben being the victim as easily as some people see him as being a 'rapist'.

[TMu11]

Bottom Line - Women are evil. Roth is a good QB.
Done

[zone]

It's extremely hard to know the truth in this situation.

It could go either way, this being the second time could mean that there is a real chance he is a scuz bucket or that some chicken heads saw $ $ opportunity.

Anything is possible but it's really hard to believe that a guy that can easily get ass for free would have to steal it all while having 2 accomplices not only think it's ok but help him lock some girl in a room.

Girls line up to f famous people. Scumbags do rape women. It's hard to know which is the case when a famous/rich person is involved. Either way it's Ben's responsibility to not be in those situations, period.

[Ickybaluky]

Ya not to mention this girl was so piss drunk she wouldnt remember ****. The girl was blackout drunk. Even she doesnt know what happened. IMO that report is bull**** and the girl is a liar. Like they usually are in these situations. She has something to gain by saying this about Roethlisberger. For all we know it could have been totally consentual but the media and americans love tearing down high profile people so the 'rapelisberger' stuff runs rampant.

Wow. You got issues. "Like they usually are in these situations". Wow. You honestly see "Big Ben" as the victim here?

What exactly did the girl gain by this? Lets see...

She got to drop out of school.
Her assailant got off without charges.
She received no money.

I guess I'm not real clear on her motive.

This is a very credible report, even if it can't be proven in court. She immediately left the club and contacted police. Her and her friends statements all are in line with what the club manager and others have said.

Meanwhile, Ben has said nothing. He refuses to even give a statement.

The guy is a rapist.

[Commissioner]

This is the second time. Allegedly. And the first time was in the hedonistic spawning ground of lake tahoe. These girls are probably lining up to give it up to him hoping to get him hooked so they can live their fairy tale lives of spending all his money. Then when he hits it and quits it they cry and want revenge. Nobody truly knows either way but I can see ben being the victim as easily as some people see him as being a 'rapist'.

This could be the 3rd time:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/13/boston-attorney-says-he-investigated-another-roethlisberger-incident/

[DraftBoy]

Ya not to mention this girl was so piss drunk she wouldnt remember ****. The girl was blackout drunk. Even she doesnt know what happened. IMO that report is bull**** and the girl is a liar. Like they usually are in these situations. She has something to gain by saying this about Roethlisberger. For all we know it could have been totally consentual but the media and americans love tearing down high profile people so the 'rapelisberger' stuff runs rampant.

You don't know this girl so please STFU and stop acting like Big Ben is the victim here. He took advantage of a situation, Im not saying her account is 100% accurate but you're response is what makes athletes think they can get away with this ****.

She has nothing to gain, she had to leave school and has paparazzi outside of her door 24/7, yea tons to gain...

[DraftBoy]

Wow. You got issues. "Like they usually are in these situations". Wow. You honestly see "Big Ben" as the victim here?

What exactly did the girl gain by this? Lets see...

She got to drop out of school.
Her assailant got off without charges.
She received no money.

I guess I'm not real clear on her motive.

This is a very credible report, even if it can't be proven in court. She immediately left the club and contacted police. Her and her friends statements all are in line with what the club manager and others have said.

Meanwhile, Ben has said nothing. He refuses to even give a statement.

The guy is a rapist.

You're damn right he's a ****ing rapist, peice of **** will burn in hell for it too.

And to answer the question no way do I want him on this team.

[Commissioner]

Intentionally getting a 20 year old chick drunk and then having sex with her.... is rape.

[Commissioner]

and a 4th incident ....

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/16/gbi-documents-contain-evidence-of-another-roethlisberger-allegation/


If the Bills traded for this guy.... i would immediately burn any Bills gear i had and root against the front office until they were all fired.

[ddaryl]

I think its pretty damn sad when fans come to the rescue of these players because they are more interested in winning football games.

Just like Vick I'm pretty disturbed by the amounts of people who would so willing set aside these indisgressions just to be able to say we won a shiny trophy.

On top of it, I would rather see the Bills draft a QB and groom them, even if they have to 2011 to get that QB... Quick fixes rarely work in our favor

[jdbillsfan]

I would pass on Big Ben. Seems like a big douche to me and its hard to cheer for these types of guys.

He should be in jail.

[ZAZusmc03]

After the release of the statements and being able to read into it more, I no longer feel that ben could be the victim. He sounds like a grade a scumbag. So ill retract my statement that I would give up a lot to take him. Keep him as far away from our team as possible.

[User Manuel]

Bring him in!!! It would give the mothers of Eric Moulds and Travis Henry's kids something to do.................

[TheBrownBear]

This is the second time. Allegedly. And the first time was in the hedonistic spawning ground of lake tahoe. These girls are probably lining up to give it up to him hoping to get him hooked so they can live their fairy tale lives of spending all his money. Then when he hits it and quits it they cry and want revenge. Nobody truly knows either way but I can see ben being the victim as easily as some people see him as being a 'rapist'.

"Hedonistic spawning ground of lake tahoe..." Hahahaha...you ever been there bro? It's more of an outdoors-type family spot, than a Sin City.

Agree with NE39, you seem to have a pathological hatred for women - kind of a George Sodoni vibe if you ask me.

We'll never know if Ben is a rapist, but at a minimum he's definitely a creepy predator type.

[Buffalogic]

You don't know this girl so please STFU and stop acting like Big Ben is the victim here. He took advantage of a situation, Im not saying her account is 100% accurate but you're response is what makes athletes think they can get away with this ****.

She has nothing to gain, she had to leave school and has paparazzi outside of her door 24/7, yea tons to gain...And you dont' know Ben or the girl either so how bout you STFU. You people act like you were there to see this happen. You weren't. It's a civil case, she can/will bleed his pockets.

If he's innocent what can he even say??

[Buffalogic]

Intentionally getting a 20 year old chick drunk and then having sex with her.... is rape.Ya cuz you really have to force feed girls drinks who are already at the bar
:rolleyes:

[Buffalogic]

"Hedonistic spawning ground of lake tahoe..." Hahahaha...you ever been there bro? It's more of an outdoors-type family spot, than a Sin City.

Agree with NE39, you seem to have a pathological hatred for women - kind of a George Sodoni vibe if you ask me.

We'll never know if Ben is a rapist, but at a minimum he's definitely a creepy predator type.I never argued against this. He probably is a pervert. My argument is that he can be a pervert without being a rapist.

[X-Era]

What we do know is that he isn't a Buffalo Bill at this point so it really isn't worth getting riled up over.

For what its worth, a few years ago, my brother in law met him at a golf party. He said he was a complete arrogant douche. I wasn't there, I don't know, but it may be another data point.

Here's the problem I have. What we need is something we don't seem to be able to get at QB. A franchise player.

1) We never pick high enough to draft one
2) We wont trade up to draft one
3) The only ones available by trade that we could get have a significant issue
4) The ones without any issues wont come here or we wont trade enough to get one

So we are left with our current plan which is to somehow score one from outside the top 5, or in a trade for a never-has-been from another team. Which makes the likelihood that we fix this problem any time soon remote IMO.

If the Bills could convince themselves that he has grown up or wont do any of this crap again, Id be happy to finally fix that position. But I'm not convinced he is fixable at this point.