Great ESPN article on QBs... Good read!!!

[jamze132]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?page=NextLevel1

...Of the 128 quarterbacks drafted since 2000, 43 got their first start in their first season in the NFL. This data -- courtesy of ESPN Stats & Information -- shows that among this large group, the longer a QB waits to start, the better he performs once he does. In fact, completion percentage, TD/INT ratio and yards per attempt all rise over the course of his career the longer a QB sits to begin it.

Drafted QBs who didn't get to start until their third or even fourth years have TD/INT rates nearly 50 percent better, and complete passes at a rate a full five percent better than rookie starters...


What's interesting is that Matt Hasselbeck and Aaron Rodgers both sat behind Favre before eventually getting the nod and both went on to Pro Bowls. Brohm has now had 2 years to sit and could be ready to shine if given the opportunity. And lets be honest, the Packers have done a pretty good job of picking QBs in the draft.

[JCBills]

Re: Great ESPN article on QBs... Good read!!!

Good stuff, really hope Brohm can do it this season, I really don't want a QB until the 3rd day if we're taking one.

[BillsWin]

Re: Great ESPN article on QBs... Good read!!!

If the front office is confident in Brohm, I'd be fine with giving him a year as a trial...

Especially if we address our offensive and defensive lines early.

[Commissioner]

Re: Great ESPN article on QBs... Good read!!!

It seems like you saw Favre, Rodgers, and Hasselbeck in this article... and thought "Omigod!! We got Brohm!!"

Brohm did not sit behind Favre.... and the Green Bay organization thought so highly of him, they put Brohm on their practice squad... basically giving him to us for NOTHING!! That's how good Brohm was to the organization that Favre and Rodgers came from.

Remember CRAIG NALL used to be a GREEN BAY PACKER!! How did he do for us?

There is absolutely nothing interesting here.... How many years did Frank Reich sit behind Jim Kelly? How well did he do when he finally got his chance in Indianapolis?

How many years did Steve Young sit behind Joe Montana?

How many years did it take Rich Gannon to be good?


There is no F'n formula... it's all chance.

Stop being a pathetic Bills fan looking for fillet minion in a pile of ****!

[Buffalogic]

Re: Great ESPN article on QBs... Good read!!!

^ ouch with the filet minon pile of **** thing.

It's not that bad to think Brohm can get it done. He's never really had a shot and he was great as a junior.

[Commissioner]

Re: Great ESPN article on QBs... Good read!!!

^ ouch with the filet minon pile of **** thing.

It's not that bad to think Brohm can get it done. He's never really had a shot and he was great as a junior.

If Brian Brohm was John Doe.... someone would find a reason to get excited about him... because we haven't gotten a chance to see him suck yet. Every fan thinks they have some INSIGHT into a player that 100's of scouts in the NFL don't... and they can't see the obvious... which is... the guy SUCKS!! that's why we got him for nothing...

HOPE, it is the quintessential HUMAN DELUSION, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength, and your greatest weakness.

[YardRat]

Re: Great ESPN article on QBs... Good read!!!

Reich actually moved on to Carolina from Buffalo, not Indy.

CW used to always be QB's take time to develop, and starting out as a back-up was considered the most desirable route.

Favre was a back-up also, originally drafted by Atlanta before being traded to Green Bay.

[Commissioner]

Re: Great ESPN article on QBs... Good read!!!

Reich actually moved on to Carolina from Buffalo, not Indy.

CW used to always be QB's take time to develop, and starting out as a back-up was considered the most desirable route.

Favre was a back-up also, originally drafted by Atlanta before being traded to Green Bay.

I actually think starting off as a backup is a good thing....

Throwing a rookie in their on day 1 is risky if they don't have the mental makeup for it... it could destroy their careers....

[Buffalogic]

Re: Great ESPN article on QBs... Good read!!!

If Brian Brohm was John Doe.... someone would find a reason to get excited about him... because we haven't gotten a chance to see him suck yet. Every fan thinks they have some INSIGHT into a player that 100's of scouts in the NFL don't... and they can't see the obvious... which is... the guy SUCKS!! that's why we got him for nothing...

HOPE, it is the quintessential HUMAN DELUSION, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength, and your greatest weakness.

Pffft ok architect... I watched him in college so I know he has talent. He might be a no name to you, that's why it so easy for you to be a hater.

[Commissioner]

Re: Great ESPN article on QBs... Good read!!!

Pffft ok architect... I watched him in college so I know he has talent. He might be a no name to you, that's why it so easy for you to be a hater.

Yeah... u watched him in college. That means something...

[Buffalogic]

Re: Great ESPN article on QBs... Good read!!!

Yeah... u watched him in college. That means something...

It means more than your bull**** know-nothing hate and cheesy movie quotes.

[jamze132]

Re: Great ESPN article on QBs... Good read!!!

It seems like you saw Favre, Rodgers, and Hasselbeck in this article... and thought "Omigod!! We got Brohm!!"

Brohm did not sit behind Favre.... and the Green Bay organization thought so highly of him, they put Brohm on their practice squad... basically giving him to us for NOTHING!! That's how good Brohm was to the organization that Favre and Rodgers came from.

Remember CRAIG NALL used to be a GREEN BAY PACKER!! How did he do for us?

There is absolutely nothing interesting here.... How many years did Frank Reich sit behind Jim Kelly? How well did he do when he finally got his chance in Indianapolis?

How many years did Steve Young sit behind Joe Montana?

How many years did it take Rich Gannon to be good?


There is no F'n formula... it's all chance.

Stop being a pathetic Bills fan looking for fillet minion in a pile of ****!

Not exactly sparkles, relax.

I have liked Brohm since he entered the damn draft and hoped we could take him. He got a raw deal in GB and now has a chance to show what he can do in a different environment. But I guess with you, everything is cookie cutter.

[Commissioner]

Re: Great ESPN article on QBs... Good read!!!

Not exactly sparkles, relax.

I have liked Brohm since he entered the damn draft and hoped we could take him. He got a raw deal in GB and now has a chance to show what he can do in a different environment. But I guess with you, everything is cookie cutter.

What do you mean "Raw Deal"?

He was drafted in the F'N 2nd round... !!! How is that raw deal? He was drafted 2 years after Aaron Rodgers was drafted and ended up on the practice squad?

He was picked up by a ****ty football team known as the Buffalo Bills after proving nothing in an organization that knows good QB's...

How has he gotten a raw deal?

[jamze132]

Re: Great ESPN article on QBs... Good read!!!

What do you mean "Raw Deal"?

He was drafted in the F'N 2nd round... !!! How is that raw deal? He was drafted 2 years after Aaron Rodgers was drafted and ended up on the practice squad?

He was picked up by a ****ty football team known as the Buffalo Bills after proving nothing in an organization that knows good QB's...

How has he gotten a raw deal?

If any other team drafted him, this conversation and your ****ed up point of view wouldn't exist. I'm not going to argue with a troll about football. I'm out.

[JCBills]

Re: Great ESPN article on QBs... Good read!!!

If Brian Brohm was John Doe.... someone would find a reason to get excited about him... because we haven't gotten a chance to see him suck yet. Every fan thinks they have some INSIGHT into a player that 100's of scouts in the NFL don't... and they can't see the obvious... which is... the guy SUCKS!! that's why we got him for nothing...

HOPE, it is the quintessential HUMAN DELUSION, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength, and your greatest weakness.

100s of scouts decided he was worth an early pick, they don't make the decision who goes on the PS.