Football outsiders: Best Pass Rusher of the draft using sackseer

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • sauce
    Registered User
    • Dec 2008
    • 171

    Football outsiders: Best Pass Rusher of the draft using sackseer

    Very interesting read...They have Jerry Hughes as the top rated edge rusher...



    I have poured through college statistics, biographies, and pre-draft workout data to try and shed light on what is one of the great mysteries of the NFL Draft. The result is SackSEER, a regression model that projects the professional sack totals of college edge rushers selected in the NFL Draft. Edge rusher is defined as a player who has spent a significant part of his career lining up as either a defensive end in a 4-3 alignment or an outside linebacker in a 3-4 alignment. The research to produce the method considered all edge rushers drafted in the first two rounds of the NFL Draft between 1999 and 2008...continued in link.
  • rcd333
    Registered User
    • Mar 2007
    • 245

    #2
    Re: Football outsiders: Best Pass Rusher of the draft using sackseer

    interestingly aaron schobel was the best rated pash rusher coming out of college since 1999 using this system.
    Last edited by rcd333; 04-19-2010, 11:58 PM.

    Comment

    • sauce
      Registered User
      • Dec 2008
      • 171

      #3
      Re: Football outsiders: Best Pass Rusher of the draft using sackseer

      Here is some more from the article bc I know people will be too lazy to click the link


      There are four main factors that correlate to sack success in the NFL: vertical leap, short shuttle time, sacks per game in college (with some playing time adjustments), and how many eligible games worth of NCAA football the player missed for any reason (except early entry into the NFL Draft). SackSEER projects each prospect's total sacks through five years, which is roughly the average length of the rookie contract received by a first- or second-round pick. Although the individual trends are small, when considered together, they project sack production approximately three times more accurately than a player's draft position within the first two rounds. Overall, SackSEER accounts for approximately 40 percent of the historical variation among these players' accumulated five-year sack totals.


      Let's look at the four elements in SackSEER and why they help indicate a player's ability to successfully rush the passer in the NFL:

      The vertical leap's importance is based on simple physics. If a 270-pound defensive end has the leg strength to jump 40 inches in the air from a standing position, it is very likely that he will be able to employ that same functional strength to burst quickly and powerfully off the line of scrimmage.
      The short shuttle run measures change of direction speed, burst, and hip flexibility. DeMarcus Ware had a jaw-dropping 4.07 second short shuttle, and Jevon Kearse ran the short shuttle twice with an average time of 4.12 seconds. No elite edge rusher has emerged from any round of the NFL Draft since at least 1999 with a short shuttle slower than 4.42 seconds.


      The third variable in SackSEER is a metric called SRAM, which stands for "Sack Rate as Modified." This measures sacks per game with a few important adjustments. First, sack rates are adjusted to compensate for the fact that college edge rushers as a whole become more productive as they progress through their college careers. A three-year starter who comes out as a junior will be a better prospect than a three-year starter with the same sack rate who is coming out after his senior year. SRAM also attempts to fill in the gaps for players who spent part of their college careers at positions that are less conducive to pass-rushing success, such as defensive tackle (Tamba Hali), 4-3 linebacker (Clay Matthews), or tight end (Ebenezer Ekuban).
      The final metric is both the strongest factor and the least intuitive: missed games worth of NCAA eligibility. SackSEER suggests that a college edge rusher who misses numerous games for any reason other than early declaration for the NFL Draft has little chance of succeeding as a professional. This includes players who miss games due to injury, suspensions, academic standards, or sickness. Medical redshirts are included, although standard freshman redshirts are not. Players with health issues in college tend to have health issues in the NFL (Erasmus James, for example). Missing games for other reasons is also indicative of failure at the NFL level. Scroll down to the comment on Jason Pierre-Paul for the remarkable list of failed prospects who spent time at junior college.
      The research behind SackSEER will be discussed in more detail in Football Outsiders Almanac 2010, as will the specifics behind the adjustments to sack rate that create SRAM. For now, we wanted to preview this year's draft with a look at how SackSEER evaluates the top edge rusher prospects of 2010. (Please note that the exact projections listed here may differ from those listed in FOA 2010 because of future refinements to the system.)


      2010 Draft Prospects
      Jerry Hughes, Texas Christian University
      Vertical: 34.5", Short Shuttle: 4.15, SRAM: 0.55, Missed Games: 3
      Projection: 27.7 Sacks through Year 5

      Jerry Hughes separates himself from the rest of the pack by virtue of his elite 4.15-second short shuttle run at the Combine. Not only is Hughes' short shuttle time the best amongst defensive linemen in 2010, but it is also better than any shuttle time run by any edge rusher at the Combine in 2009 or 2008.
      The other interesting factor with Hughes is a huge jump in SRAM between his sophomore and junior seasons. Hughes recorded only a 0.09 SRAM for his first two years but recorded a 1.0 SRAM during his dominant junior and senior years. This type of improvement compares favorably to other top edge rushers of past drafts. Patrick Kerney, Elvis Dumervil, and Dwight Freeney had 1.0, 2.0., and 3.5 sacks in their first two years, respectively, but subsequently exploded once they became full-time starters in their junior and senior years. Hughes' career path is similar. He was stuck for two years behind Chase Ortiz and Tommy Blake at TCU.

      However, Hughes also bears a certain similarity to another prospect who was not quite as successful as Freeney and company: Jason Babin. Babin, like Hughes, recorded a lot of sacks once becoming a full-time starter at a small school, registered a lightning quick shuttle at the Combine and a mediocre vertical leap. Babin, along with Bryan Thomas, is the type of prospect that SackSEER occasionally misses on: a quick, productive, small-school edge rusher who lacks elite explosion. On the other hand, there are plenty of success stories who share Hughes' particular profile, such as Terrell Suggs, Robert Mathis, and Jared Allen. It all adds up to Hughes being a good, but not great, edge rusher prospect.

      Derrick Morgan, Georgia Tech
      Vertical: 34", Short Shuttle: 4.43, SRAM: 0.59, Missed Games: 1
      Projection: 23.3 Sacks through Year 5


      As a prospect, Derrick Morgan is the polar opposite of former teammate Michael Johnson (now with Cincinnati). Morgan was much more productive in college -- building off of a solid sophomore campaign by recording 12.5 sacks in 13 games as a junior -- but lacks Johnson's athleticism, registering mediocre vertical and short shuttle numbers at the Combine. Conventional wisdom says that Morgan is the "safest" edge rusher in the draft, but SackSEER considers Morgan as a middle-of-the-road talent, basically a 50-50 shot.

      Comment

      • sauce
        Registered User
        • Dec 2008
        • 171

        #4
        Re: Football outsiders: Best Pass Rusher of the draft using sackseer

        Originally posted by rcd333
        interestingly aaron schobel was the best rated pash rusher coming out of college since 1999 using this system.

        yep, Aaron Schobel had the best projected stats using SackSEER since 1999, followed by Mario Williams, Andre Carter and Shawn Merriman

        The worst SackSEER projections since 1999, Michael Boireau, Jerome McDougle, Jarvis Moss, Dan Cody

        This thing is spot on

        Comment

        • Oaf
          Do you read what you write?
          • Jun 2007
          • 6151

          #5
          Re: Football outsiders: Best Pass Rusher of the draft using sackseer

          I remember I wanted McDougle BAD that draft.

          Comment

          Working...
          X