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  • Scumbag College
    Registered User
    • Oct 2002
    • 4949

    Current DLs on the Bills

    DEs:

    Edwards
    Ellis
    Kelsay
    Schobel
    Carrington
    Maybin (probably OLB)

    DTs:

    Harvey
    Johnson (DE?)
    McCargo
    Spencer (DE?)
    Stroud (DE?)
    Troup
    Williams (DE?)

    It'll be competitive at least there in Training Camp.
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  • Nighthawk
    Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
    • Jul 2002
    • 15437

    #2
    Re: Current DLs on the Bills

    I think Ellis may have a good shot to be an OLB and show something there...

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    • Chewytie
      Registered User
      • Feb 2009
      • 148

      #3
      Re: Current DLs on the Bills

      Any word on Schobel retiring? if so -1

      I's like to see Maybin at OLB

      Stroud at DE

      I think Carrington will start.

      IDK... I like a bigger D-line.
      /Pensive

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      • OpIv37
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        • Sep 2002
        • 101332

        #4
        Re: Current DLs on the Bills

        Kelsay, Schobel, Maybin and Ellis are all OLB's in the 3-4. None of them are even close to big enough for 3-4 DE.
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        • Scumbag College
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          • Oct 2002
          • 4949

          #5
          Re: Current DLs on the Bills

          Originally posted by Nighthawk
          I think Ellis may have a good shot to be an OLB and show something there...
          I've been disappointed with Ellis. I thought he'd be a solid DE with the Bills. I think he'd be worth a real long look there, since OLB is a big question mark right now.
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          • Ingtar33
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            • Sep 2002
            • 15475

            #6
            Re: Current DLs on the Bills

            Originally posted by Scumbag College
            DEs:

            Edwards
            Ellis
            Kelsay
            Schobel
            Carrington
            Maybin (probably OLB)

            *bolded players will have to play OLB because there is no way on earth they're big enough to play end in a 34

            DTs:

            Harvey
            Johnson
            McCargo
            Spencer

            Stroud
            Troup
            Williams (DE?)

            *bolded players will have to play DE, because, again... there is no way on earth they could play NT in a 34

            It'll be competitive at least there in Training Camp.
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            • OpIv37
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              • Sep 2002
              • 101332

              #7
              Re: Current DLs on the Bills

              4-3 DT's are 3-4 DE's.

              4-3 DE's are 3-4 OLB's.

              Stroud will have to play DE, any of our current DE's make the transition or get cut. That's the only way the 3-4 works.
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              • BILLSROCK1212
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                • Mar 2006
                • 5269

                #8
                Re: Current DLs on the Bills

                We're loaded in the front 7 for the most part...the defense overall, if this draft pans out is pretty solid....not many glaring needs left....I think the rest of the draft with the exception of a pick will be offense

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                • Scumbag College
                  Registered User
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 4949

                  #9
                  Re: Current DLs on the Bills

                  All in all, I think if you step back and look at the draft so far the Bills are transforming themselves into a 4-3 cover 2 to a bigger up front 3-4. I like the direction the defense is going in.
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                  • tampabay25690
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 9670

                    #10
                    Re: Current DLs on the Bills

                    Originally posted by Nighthawk
                    I think Ellis may have a good shot to be an OLB and show something there...
                    I think he will be better at the OLB position...
                    He had to drop into coverage at V TECH
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                    • Don't Panic
                      All-Pro Zoner
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 4227

                      #11
                      Re: Current DLs on the Bills

                      I still question this front 7. We'll see who can transition...

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                      • TigerJ
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 22575

                        #12
                        Re: Current DLs on the Bills

                        While I think Nix is beginning to build a core for Gailey's 3-4 defense, I don't think they will be that good for a while unless Edwards pulls off a near miracle as defensive coordinator. Stroud and Spencer Johnson are going to go through an adjustment period with their change of position. Torell Troup and Alex Carrington are both going to be rookies. Maybin and Ellis are unproven, while Schobel (if he doesn't retire) and Kelsay join the first two in having to learn a new position. What I hope is that they will be a very good defense in 2011.

                        Between the defense and the offense, I think that it's the offense that actually has the most potential for improvement in 2010. That's mostly due to the hope that Gailey and his offensive staff can do a better job of coaching the offensive players who are already here than Van Pelt and company. While some slim hope remains that Buffalo can draft a QB and LT who can come in and contribute, I think the more realistic hope we should grasp and hold (not that it's even close to a sure thing) is that the new staff can fix Edwards orhelp Brohm polish his game and help Bell and Meredith continue to develop. I'm not caying that Bell and Meredith are going to turn into dominant linemen this season, but with another year of development and a stronger coachng staff, they should be at least somewhat better than they were last season.
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                        • psubills62
                          Legendary Zoner
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 11295

                          #13
                          Re: Current DLs on the Bills

                          Originally posted by TigerJ
                          While I think Nix is beginning to build a core for Gailey's 3-4 defense, I don't think they will be that good for a while unless Edwards pulls off a near miracle as defensive coordinator. Stroud and Spencer Johnson are going to go through an adjustment period with their change of position. Torell Troup and Alex Carrington are both going to be rookies. Maybin and Ellis are unproven, while Schobel (if he doesn't rTHatetire) and Kelsay join the first two in having to learn a new position. What I hope is that they will be a very good defense in 2011.

                          Between the defense and the offense, I think that it's the offense that actually has the most potential for improvement in 2010. That's mostly due to the hope that Gailey and his offensive staff can do a better job of coaching the offensive players who are already here than Van Pelt and company. While some slim hope remains that Buffalo can draft a QB and LT who can come in and contribute, I think the more realistic hope we should grasp and hold (not that it's even close to a sure thing) is that the new staff can fix Edwards orhelp Brohm polish his game and help Bell and Meredith continue to develop. I'm not caying that Bell and Meredith are going to turn into dominant linemen this season, but with another year of development and a stronger coachng staff, they should be at least somewhat better than they were last season.
                          I'm not sure it's as difficult to transition guys from a 4-3 to a 3-4. Look at GB - they transitioned (granted, they had a lot of good DL to work with), and ended up ranked #1 against the run in 2009.

                          I think they run a 3-4 system that's more of an attacking system for the DL, rather than one where they simply take up blockers, I think most of our current DL are veteran enough to make the switch fairly easily. Having Dwan Edwards around to show them the ropes probably helps.
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                          • BertSquirtgum
                            Legendary Zoner
                            • May 2009
                            • 13379

                            #14
                            Re: Current DLs on the Bills

                            DEs:

                            Edwards - DE
                            Ellis - OLB
                            Kelsay - OLB
                            Schobel - OLB
                            Carrington - DE
                            Maybin - OLB

                            DTs:

                            Harvey - ?
                            Johnson - DE
                            McCargo - goodbye
                            Spencer - ?
                            Stroud - DE
                            Troup - DT
                            Williams - DT

                            are those two question marks the undrafted big guys they brought in?

                            edit: Lonnie Harvey 6'3 345lbs definitely a DT if anything
                            can't find any info on this unknown spencer character
                            Last edited by BertSquirtgum; 04-24-2010, 12:09 AM.

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                            • Akhippo
                              Registered User
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 838

                              #15
                              Re: Current DLs on the Bills

                              NTs
                              Troupe
                              Willliams
                              Harvey

                              DEs
                              Carrington
                              Edwards
                              Johnson
                              Stroud

                              OLBs
                              Maybin
                              Ellis

                              Outs
                              Kelsay
                              Schobel
                              McCargo

                              I think we need another NT and OLB to really solidify the defense. Maybin is like an extra pick this year. Instead of a first round DE we picked a first round OLB. He just needs to produce.
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