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  • Pinkerton Security
    Pinkerton's son
    • Feb 2006
    • 6003

    Kiper looks at immediate impact players

    2. C.J. Spiller
    Count me in the group of folks who question what the Buffalo Bills were thinking in not drafting a tackle until Round 5. They passed on good tackles several times before the fifth round. Still, Spiller has the chance to make an immediate impact in the NFL. Yes, the learning curve for running backs will naturally push them onto lists like this, but Spiller lands here also because he figures not to receive the holes most backs need to be successful, and he and Best are the two players taken early who can get huge yardage out of nothing. The question for the Bills will be whether a back like Spiller, who shouldn't be cast into a role as a guy piling up much more than 15 carries per game, also can be used in the passing or return games.

    Pete Carroll's arrival in the Northwest couldn't have been more controversial. And although the coach has an aggressive style, patience paid off when the Seahawks' war room convened. Mel Kiper was impressed enough to give the Hawks top marks.

  • Mahdi
    Registered User
    • Mar 2004
    • 10585

    #2
    Re: Kiper looks at immediate impact players

    Im really sick of this INSIDER BS... as if they are more enlightened than any other sports site. They need to drop that non-sense, its enough that I visit their website and give them hits.

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    • Pinkerton Security
      Pinkerton's son
      • Feb 2006
      • 6003

      #3
      Re: Kiper looks at immediate impact players

      Originally posted by Mahdi
      Im really sick of this INSIDER BS... as if they are more enlightened than any other sports site. They need to drop that non-sense, its enough that I visit their website and give them hits.
      i agree...i get ESPN the mag as a gift so i get it for free anyways, but it is def a rip-off...is somewhat worth it during draft season and for fantasy purposes but other than that it is completely worthless.

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      • Night Train
        Retired - On Several Levels
        • Jul 2005
        • 33117

        #4
        Re: Kiper looks at immediate impact players

        Let's look at it another way. Spiller may get 10-12 carries a game, with Fred Jackson getting more. He may also get another 5 catches a game lining up as a slot WR or in motion...in the open field..in space...where he can break it.

        That's worth it to me. He can score on every play. Jackson can not.
        Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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        • THATHURMANATOR
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 69112

          #5
          Re: Kiper looks at immediate impact players

          They are going to use Spiller in multiple roles this year. He won't be a workhorse back. Maybe the reason for keeping Beastmode.

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          • FlyingDutchman
            Registered User
            • Apr 2005
            • 5074

            #6
            Re: Kiper looks at immediate impact players

            what solid immediate impact tackles were really available at our 2nd pick?

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            • THATHURMANATOR
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 69112

              #7
              Re: Kiper looks at immediate impact players

              Originally posted by FlyingDutchman
              what solid immediate impact tackles were really available at our 2nd pick?
              I think Brown was there but again was LT more of a need than NT? I really don't think so. We had NO ONE to play NT with. We had at least 2 young LT with some starting experience on our roster. That had to be their mindset.

              Now we have a space eating NT for downs 1 and 2 and we can bring in a capable player like Williams on passing downs.

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              • Pinkerton Security
                Pinkerton's son
                • Feb 2006
                • 6003

                #8
                Re: Kiper looks at immediate impact players

                Originally posted by FlyingDutchman
                what solid immediate impact tackles were really available at our 2nd pick?
                yeah i really hate how they seem to focus on our needs and not to what was actually on the board at that point...we obviously (or at least i hope) felt that none of the tackles on the board at these points were any better than what we currently have on our roster. I mean i kept getting surprised when we didnt select a tackle also, but looking back at it there really werent a ton of tackle prospects, and it seems, to me, that there was a big fall-off between the top guys, hell even the 2nd tier guys like Anthony Smith and Bulaga, and the guys that were available for us.

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                • TigerJ
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 22575

                  #9
                  Re: Kiper looks at immediate impact players

                  Originally posted by Night Train
                  Let's look at it another way. Spiller may get 10-12 carries a game, with Fred Jackson getting more. He may also get another 5 catches a game lining up as a slot WR or in motion...in the open field..in space...where he can break it.

                  That's worth it to me. He can score on every play. Jackson can not.
                  Moreover, since Spiller is not likely to be an every down back, he will probably be available for return duty where he might be good for 2 or 3 touchdowns in the season, as well as several other long returns.
                  I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

                  I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.

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                  • Mahdi
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 10585

                    #10
                    Re: Kiper looks at immediate impact players

                    Originally posted by TigerJ
                    Moreover, since Spiller is not likely to be an every down back, he will probably be available for return duty where he might be good for 2 or 3 touchdowns in the season, as well as several other long returns.
                    Spiller IS an every down RB. The only thing he probably wouldn't do is short yardage like 3rd/4th and 1 or 2. Other than that, expect to see Spiller get plenty of carries. He ran well inside in his senior year and showed that he can handle the workload.

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                    • psubills62
                      Legendary Zoner
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 11295

                      #11
                      Re: Kiper looks at immediate impact players

                      Originally posted by Mahdi
                      Spiller IS an every down RB. The only thing he probably wouldn't do is short yardage like 3rd/4th and 1 or 2. Other than that, expect to see Spiller get plenty of carries. He ran well inside in his senior year and showed that he can handle the workload.
                      I have no doubts that he'll get his touches. Obviously they didn't draft him #9 overall just to put him on kickoffs. I think that Tiger was trying to say that Spiller won't be a workhorse. And he shouldn't be, considering we have two capable RB's behind him.

                      Spiller has already got a decent amount of wear on his tires for a rookie. I think he'll get ~10 carries and ~5 receptions per game. He'll be on the field a lot, and I can see him even being used as a decoy a number of times.
                      "Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
                      - Nicholas Cummings

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                      • Mahdi
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 10585

                        #12
                        Re: Kiper looks at immediate impact players

                        Originally posted by psubills62
                        I have no doubts that he'll get his touches. Obviously they didn't draft him #9 overall just to put him on kickoffs. I think that Tiger was trying to say that Spiller won't be a workhorse. And he shouldn't be, considering we have two capable RB's behind him.

                        Spiller has already got a decent amount of wear on his tires for a rookie. I think he'll get ~10 carries and ~5 receptions per game. He'll be on the field a lot, and I can see him even being used as a decoy a number of times.
                        10 carries is very little for the 9th overall pick. I expect more like 15-20 with Jackson getting 10-15 of his own.

                        We should be running the ball about 35 times a game.

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                        • psubills62
                          Legendary Zoner
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 11295

                          #13
                          Re: Kiper looks at immediate impact players

                          Originally posted by Mahdi
                          10 carries is very little for the 9th overall pick. I expect more like 15-20 with Jackson getting 10-15 of his own.

                          We should be running the ball about 35 times a game.
                          Maybe, but I still don't think they'll use Spiller as a main back, primarily to prevent him wearing down too fast.
                          "Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
                          - Nicholas Cummings

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                          • ddaryl
                            Everything I post is sexual inuendo
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 10714

                            #14
                            Re: Kiper looks at immediate impact players

                            I like to see Spiller used at wideout some this year. He can outrun most any DB, and would cause major matchup headaches for opposing D's

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                            • EDS
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 5216

                              #15
                              Re: Kiper looks at immediate impact players

                              Originally posted by Mahdi
                              10 carries is very little for the 9th overall pick. I expect more like 15-20 with Jackson getting 10-15 of his own.

                              We should be running the ball about 35 times a game.
                              I agree. If Spiller is only getting 10 carries a game then drafting him so high doesn't make a lot of sense.

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