Gaither to the Bills? Adam Schefter thinks so.

[BillsWin]

http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/13558277872


NFL sources still expect Ravens OT Jared Gaither to be traded before season and Bills are most likely destination - they want him.

Goodbye left tackle problems... :clap: *Jauron Clap* :clap:

[ct bills fan]

nice find - that would be nice

[Michael82]

That would be awesome! :pray:

[Nighthawk]

It would be nice, but I'll believe it when I see it.

[YardRat]

lol at Schefter.

I'd be more impressed if we were talking about New Orleans.

[mikemac2001]

HELL YES!

[mikemac2001]

with this move

A+ offseason

[Nighthawk]

This may even speed up the process...if Schefter is correct.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8180125d&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

[Ed]

So any idea what the compensation would be? 2nd round pick? Lynch?

[NOT THE DUDE...]

GET IT DONE OBD!!!!!!!!

[BillsWin]

This is the kind of move I would hope our new front office is capable of making. Especially if we can get him for less than a first.

Gaither is one of the better young left tackles in the league right now and provides instant credibility to our offensive line.

I don't think its too out of the box to think a Gaither signing could poise us to make a decent run next year. Especially if we get one of those highly touted QBs next year, and our picks this year turn out to be reliable players.

Get it done OBD! We need a left tackle!

[trapezeus]

i have yet to see an exciting rumor to turn out to be true, but like an undisciplined poker player, i am all in though this will usually just lead to heart ache.

[justasportsfan]

So any idea what the compensation would be? 2nd round pick? Lynch?

lol. Lynch and McGahee in the same backfield.

[T-Long]

he absolutely will not be traded for their first round pick in 2011...not with that QB class coming out.

[BillsWin]

lol. Lynch and McGahee in the same backfield.

'Thug-life!

[Ed]

lol. Lynch and McGahee in the same backfield.
Yeah, I figured they've over-payed for one of our RB's before...

It's too bad we didn't just draft Oher last year instead of Maybin. Oher, Wood, and Levitre would have been quite a foundation to build on.

So if we do end up trading for Gaither, does that mean all the draft experts have to go back and re-grade our draft? Would the Spiller pick still be a "luxury" pick?

[kelly2reed4six]

i have yet to see an exciting rumor to turn out to be true, but like an undisciplined poker player, i am all in though this will usually just lead to heart ache.


probably because none of the "exciting rumors" were from a reliable source like Schefter. This one is much more likely than any of the others.

[psubills62]

I don't know that we have any players they would want, but I'd rather trade a player plus a lesser pick. I like keeping our first and second rounders. However, I wouldn't complain if the Bills got him for a 2nd rounder.

Although it's a little disappointing this is coming from Schefter. He's become significantly less accurate with his reporting since he switched to ESPN. After all, the Eagles were definitely moving up in the first round to get Earl Thomas, right?

[buffalobillsfan95]

What could they possibly want from us, besides draft picks. Next year we will need all we can get, sooo lynch and a possible 6th or 7th a good deal?

[BillsWin]

Update: Gregg Rosenthal is reporting that Jamison Hensley of the Baltimore Sun is hearing the same rumors. :jig:

[buffalobillsfan95]

No!!!!!!!! if he joins us our oline will have less names that involes Penis's!!!
:sarcasm:

[hydro]

I hope this happens just for the fact that I don't think I can take one more post about how terrible our LT position is currently.

[Michael82]

jamisonhensley (http://twitter.com/jamisonhensley) (http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/)
There's rumors circulating that Gaither will be traded to Bills before the season. #Ravens (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Ravens) about 1 hour ago (http://twitter.com/jamisonhensley/status/13558518048) via web

[feldspar]

Gaither only just turned 24.

What a pickup this would be. It would make all the sense in the world to get this done. I predict it would take a second rounder, and that's nothing to us. We have to do all we can to make this happen.

[ZAZusmc03]

This move alone would complete our off season making it a very successful one.

[TigerJ]

I don't know that we have any players they would want, but I'd rather trade a player plus a lesser pick. I like keeping our first and second rounders. However, I wouldn't complain if the Bills got him for a 2nd rounder.

Although it's a little disappointing this is coming from Schefter. He's become significantly less accurate with his reporting since he switched to ESPN. After all, the Eagles were definitely moving up in the first round to get Earl Thomas, right?Yeah a player and a mid round pick would be great.

[madness]

Besides Nix, this FO is the exact same and will continue to ignore the needs on this tea... blah blah blah

[The last buffalo fan]

I'm now excited..................problem is that there is no woman or porno near or around me! :ill:

[rodstarr]

:jam: :jam:I don't believe it until Joe Logan confirms it!!!!

[Bill Cody]

Yes we're desperate. But I think Baltimore wants to get rid of him pretty badly also. I'd offer a third. I don't think Baltimore is interested in Lynch.

[justasportsfan]

Yes we're desperate. But I think Baltimore wants to get rid of him pretty badly also. I'd offer a third. I don't think Baltimore is interested in Lynch.
I don't think the ravens will take that because they know we will be picking at 32 of the 3rd rd.

[THATHURMANATOR]

I just started jacking off at my desk at work....... :ill:

[Philagape]

After all the pre-draft rumors we've heard that didn't come true, Bills fans still jack off to another one ......

[RockStar36]

Funny.

Schefter says this and everyone gets excited.

Schefter says Cowher isn't coming to Buffalo and people rip him to shreds.

[justasportsfan]

The Baltimore Ravens have their first minicamp this week and Jared Gaither is no longer playing left tackle.

Gaither has switched positions with Michael Oher. Gaither is now at right tackle with Oher now at left per the Ravens official team site twitter account.

1 Winning Drive For starters, Oher at LT and Gaither at RT. Cousins is 2nd team LT.
http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2010/05/07/gaither-no-longer-at-left-tackle/

[Michael82]

I just started jacking off at my desk at work....... :ill:

WTF! That's WTMI! :ill:

[X-Era]

Funny.

Schefter says this and everyone gets excited.

Schefter says Cowher isn't coming to Buffalo and people rip him to shreds.

True.

[Bill Cody]

I just started jacking off at my desk at work....... :ill:

you jack off to the image of a large black man coming your direction? Hmmm......ever been to prison?:wtf:

[Bill Cody]

The Baltimore Ravens have their first minicamp this week and Jared Gaither is no longer playing left tackle.

Gaither has switched positions with Michael Oher. Gaither is now at right tackle with Oher now at left per the Ravens official team site twitter account.

1 Winning Drive For starters, Oher at LT and Gaither at RT. Cousins is 2nd team LT.
http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2010/05/07/gaither-no-longer-at-left-tackle/

RT's are worth less. Hang firm on a 3rd.

[justasportsfan]

you jack off to the image of a large black man coming your direction? Hmmm......ever been to prison?:wtf:
racist

[psubills62]

Just because they moved him to RT doesn't mean he isn't a good LT. It's been obvious the entire offseason that they wanted to get Oher over to the left side.

This quote is from rotoworld.com:


According to Profootballfocus.com's metrics, Gaither actually graded out better as a pass blocker while Oher excelled as a run blocker in his rookie season. As the Ravens move to a more open offense, however, Oher's prototypical athleticism and light feet project to Joe Flacco's blindside. While Gaither has struggled to land a long-term deal this offseason, the switch indicates Oher is seen as the true building block up front.

[madness]

Hmm... the Ravens need secondary help.

[Mr Bills]

We better not give up a 1st, but I can't see the Ravens trading a young franchise LT for anything less than a 1st.

[madness]

We better not give up a 1st, but I can't see the Ravens trading a young franchise LT for anything less than a 1st.

It's been rumored they are willing to accept less than a 1st.

[X-Era]

Hmm... the Ravens need secondary help.
Were so deep at CB... I wouldn't mind a trade there.

Move McGee, start McKelvin and Florence... develop Lankster.

They have Chris Carr and Dominique Foxworth.

[justasportsfan]

Hmm... the Ravens need secondary help.


Youboty for Gaither straight up.

Man ,I'm smart.

[BillsWin]

McGee or Whitner!

[X-Era]

Youboty for Gaither straight up.

Man ,I'm smart.
Can we throw in Youbouty regardless?

Is it just me or doesnt his neck look like this:

http://bethneden.com/images/Neck-Rings-Cropped_large.jpg
http://assets.buffalobills.com/uploads/players/57B2574273F849B781063DAF1644F9B9.jpg

You decide.

[Buddo]

We better not give up a 1st, but I can't see the Ravens trading a young franchise LT for anything less than a 1st.

He isn't going to be the Ravens 'young franchise LT'. He might be the Ravens 'young franchise RT' though.
Gaither is out of contract after 2010 I believe. While Oher may well be their future LT, the Ravens making that move now, definitely smacks of saying that they aren't prepared to pay Gaither anything remotely like LT money.
Basically, the Ravens either end up letting Gaither go, after just another year, or they would have to tag him, to try and then get value back in a trade. Gaither has cost them next to nothing so far, yet has been productive. Getting a 2nd round pick for him, still means they make out like bandits - especially if it's a higher pick than what they expect to be having as their own.

[X-Era]

He isn't going to be the Ravens 'young franchise LT'. He might be the Ravens 'young franchise RT' though.
Gaither is out of contract after 2010 I believe. While Oher may well be their future LT, the Ravens making that move now, definitely smacks of saying that they aren't prepared to pay Gaither anything remotely like LT money.
Basically, the Ravens either end up letting Gaither go, after just another year, or they would have to tag him, to try and then get value back in a trade. Gaither has cost them next to nothing so far, yet has been productive. Getting a 2nd round pick for him, still means they make out like bandits - especially if it's a higher pick than what they expect to be having as their own.

They would take a 2nd.

I would offer McGee and a late rounder

[Philagape]

A pre-draft tidbit: He has a "half-baked work ethic"

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/blog/2010/04/gaither_and_the_draft.html

[Don't Panic]

Seeing that they passed on LT in the first 4 rounds of the draft, I don't think they'll do it unless the compensation is manageable. A 4th and a player might get it done, if that player is starter quality, of which there aren't many on our roster. Still, I would rather have Brown.

[madness]

Were so deep at CB... I wouldn't mind a trade there.

Move McGee, start McKelvin and Florence... develop Lankster.

They have Chris Carr and Dominique Foxworth.
That's the way I see it. McGee or Florence seems like the perfect match due their age and the Ravens did nothing to fill their gaping hole @ CB in the draft.

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They also signed Donte Stallworth coming off a year-long suspension for his manslaughter DUI and drafted Utah's David Reed for depth. The cornerback spot is a major concern, especially after releasing Samari Rolle and failing to find young talent in the draft. They did find young eventual replacements for TE Todd Heap in rookies Ed Dickson and Dennis Pitta. The defensive line has also taken a big hit in free agency, although drafting Terrence Cody and Arthur Jones and signing Cory Redding helped make up for the loss of Dwan Edwards and Justin Bannan. OLB Sergio Kindle was too good a value to let go after trading down into the early second round.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/team-needs/AFC/North


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[SquishDaFish]

Man this would complete the offseason and get me excited for the season!! GO BILLS!!

[bflojohn]

You all are aware that Jared Gaither's agent flies to Buffalo asking for OLT money right?? Directly after said trade to Buffalo, his demands are for top dollar on the left tackle market. Now, we wouldn't pay Jason Peters, but will pay Gaither who reportedly has a half-baked work ethic? Go get Jamaal Brown or Jermon Bushrod from New Orleans and I'm more "in line" with that acquisition!!

[dasaybz]

Give them Whitner and a 3rd.

Is Gaither a FA already? Isn't he only 24 years old?

[X-Era]

You all are aware that Jared Gaither's agent flies to Buffalo asking for OLT money right?? Directly after said trade to Buffalo, his demands are for top dollar on the left tackle market. Now, we wouldn't pay Jason Peters, but will pay Gaither who reportedly has a half-baked work ethic? Go get Jamaal Brown or Jermon Bushrod from New Orleans and I'm more "in line" with that acquisition!!

I'm aware that he is the Ravens property and can be traded by them without a new contract. If his agent choose to call, we could ignore him... Ive done it to telemarketer for years... they are the same thing afterall.

[Bill Cody]

racist

Hey it's Thurm's fantasy. :couch:

[Night Train]

I will give them Lynch, Kelsay, Edwards & Parrish... just for Gaither. :up:

[bflojohn]

X-Era, he is in the final year of a rookie contract and THEY (Baltimore) don't want to pay him in a new contract. I smell a rat here, as you simply don't move a starting right or left tackle who has experience and is 24 years of age! Something here doesn't add up....

[BertSquirtgum]

We better not give up a 1st, but I can't see the Ravens trading a young franchise LT for anything less than a 1st.

who says he's a franchise LT?

[Night Train]

You all are aware that Jared Gaither's agent flies to Buffalo asking for OLT money right?? Directly after said trade to Buffalo, his demands are for top dollar on the left tackle market. Now, we wouldn't pay Jason Peters, but will pay Gaither who reportedly has a half-baked work ethic? Go get Jamaal Brown or Jermon Bushrod from New Orleans and I'm more "in line" with that acquisition!!

Brown I would agree with. Bushrod is half the player Gaither is.

I would guess the Bills wouldn't even complete a trade without a new contract in place.

[X-Era]

X-Era, he is in the final year of a rookie contract and THEY (Baltimore) don't want to pay him in a new contract. I smell a rat here, as you simply don't move a starting right or left tackle who has experience and is 24 years of age! Something here doesn't add up....

It adds up to me. They have a starting quality Tackle at his rookie contract rate and have drafted a guy they like better at LT. Wouldn't you keep a starting Tackle, even at RT, for 5th round rookie contract pay for his final year? They will trade him because they dont intend to pay him LT money when they want Oher to be their LT.

[psubills62]

You all are aware that Jared Gaither's agent flies to Buffalo asking for OLT money right?? Directly after said trade to Buffalo, his demands are for top dollar on the left tackle market. Now, we wouldn't pay Jason Peters, but will pay Gaither who reportedly has a half-baked work ethic? Go get Jamaal Brown or Jermon Bushrod from New Orleans and I'm more "in line" with that acquisition!!

I'm pretty sure the 30% rule would preclude them from giving him the contract he wants. That rule is handcuffing a lot of teams' ability to sign players to contract extensions.

[X-Era]

Brown I would agree with. Bushrod is half the player Gaither is.

I would guess the Bills wouldn't even complete a trade without a new contract in place.

I think they might trade for him and then have the rights to franchise him for another year as their starting LT. I would just do a new deal, but I wouldn't wait on a new deal either.

[BertSquirtgum]

You all are aware that Jared Gaither's agent flies to Buffalo asking for OLT money right?? Directly after said trade to Buffalo, his demands are for top dollar on the left tackle market. Now, we wouldn't pay Jason Peters, but will pay Gaither who reportedly has a half-baked work ethic? Go get Jamaal Brown or Jermon Bushrod from New Orleans and I'm more "in line" with that acquisition!!

no. jason peters wouldn't except the 9.5 million dollars that was offered to him by the bills

[better days]

I'm pretty sure the 30% rule would preclude them from giving him the contract he wants. That rule is handcuffing a lot of teams' ability to sign players to contract extensions.

There are ways to get around the 30% rule IF a team wants to do so.

See the 49ers & Patrick Willis for an example of how it is done.

[Buddo]

There are ways to get around the 30% rule IF a team wants to do so.

See the 49ers & Patrick Willis for an example of how it is done.

I'm not convinced that they had to 'get around' anything with Willis. He was a top ten draft pick, so was already getting paid pretty handsomely. I could be wrong, but the 49ers probably didn't have to do much in te way of weirdness with bonuses etc. to stay within the 30% rule for Willis.
For other guys, e.g. Chris Johnson of the Titans, it's a lot more difficult to pay them what they want/could deserve. Gaither would certainly fall into that category, but the Bills could easily franchise tag him as a LT while they get a deal worked out, and he'd still be better off than with the Ravens, who if they tagged him, would be as a RT, or just at the highest RFA tag they could apply.

[Bill Cody]

who says he's a franchise LT?

Not Baltimore. They just replaced him at LT and are willing to ship his ass out of town. Exactly why did they use a first on Oher last year if they thought Githers was a franchise LT? Answer: they didn't.

[madness]

I don't care if he's a franchise LT or not. He's still better than anybody we currently have on the roster.

[X-Era]

Not Baltimore. They just replaced him at LT and are willing to ship his ass out of town. Exactly why did they use a first on Oher last year if they thought Githers was a franchise LT? Answer: they didn't.

Whether he plays LT or RT here, I would still be like to add another proven starter.

[better days]

I'm not convinced that they had to 'get around' anything with Willis. He was a top ten draft pick, so was already getting paid pretty handsomely. I could be wrong, but the 49ers probably didn't have to do much in te way of weirdness with bonuses etc. to stay within the 30% rule for Willis.
For other guys, e.g. Chris Johnson of the Titans, it's a lot more difficult to pay them what they want/could deserve. Gaither would certainly fall into that category, but the Bills could easily franchise tag him as a LT while they get a deal worked out, and he'd still be better off than with the Ravens, who if they tagged him, would be as a RT, or just at the highest RFA tag they could apply.

I'm pretty sure I heard that the 49ers had to pay him TWO bonuses to get around the rule. That is the way to get around the rule BONUSES.

[psubills62]

There are ways to get around the 30% rule IF a team wants to do so.

See the 49ers & Patrick Willis for an example of how it is done.

I don't know what Gaither's salary was compared to Willis's, but Buddo is correct - Willis almost certainly had a significantly higher base salary, being a top 10 draft pick. The 49ers did have to work some bonuses in, but they didn't have to give nearly as much bonus money as Gaither's contract would require.

[better days]

I don't know what Gaither's salary was compared to Willis's, but Buddo is correct - Willis almost certainly had a significantly higher base salary, being a top 10 draft pick. The 49ers did have to work some bonuses in, but they didn't have to give nearly as much bonus money as Gaither's contract would require.

I agree with you about that. The question then becomes how GOOD Gaither really is & how much is he worth in salary & picks to the Bills.

[Bill Cody]

Whether he plays LT or RT here, I would still be like to add another proven starter.

Not me. The situation at RT is weak but it's not a crisis. We have semi-legitamate options of Cornell, Meredith, maybe even Calloway. At LT we have an injured Bell and a not ready for prime time Wang. No. Either we're convinced this guy is a long term solution at LT and we extend him upfront or I say pass. Our draft picks are too valuable to give up a 2nd or 3rd for a RT that could walk away at the end of the season.

[psubills62]

Not Baltimore. They just replaced him at LT and are willing to ship his ass out of town. Exactly why did they use a first on Oher last year if they thought Githers was a franchise LT? Answer: they didn't.

Gaither is a good LT, period. Maybe not quite franchise level, but he's 10x better than anything we have.

I don't understand the Oher argument. There were tons of reasons to make that draft pick - 1) make sure the OL is dominant, 2) best player on the board.

Since the Saints selected Charles Brown, does that mean Jammal Brown isn't a franchise LT? It's a matter of supply and demand. Both the Saints and Ravens now have a surplus of good OT's, and can afford to trade for one or more draft picks.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

2 things

1 it has to be a sign and trade

2 a 3rd round pick and ashton youboty would suffice...

[bflojohn]

My meaning here is Jared Gaither and his agent don't bury their heads in the sand, they know the Buffalo Bills are trading for a OLT and THAT is where the negotiations start. The trade is NOT for a right tackle and that demands $10 million, as a starting point. The other matter is that Baltimore is looking to move a starting calibre OT (right or left) with experience! That doesn't happen very often n the NFL, hence, I think there might be some underlining reasons the Ravens are seriously entertaining a deal. Anyone here think the Ravens don't get it?? I happen to think that they get it pretty well, so it obviously makes me wonder!!

[Jersey1031]

My meaning here is Jared Gaither and his agent don't bury their heads in the sand, they know the Buffalo Bills are trading for a OLT and THAT is where the negotiations start. The trade is NOT for a right tackle and that demands $10 million, as a starting point. The other matter is that Baltimore is looking to move a starting calibre OT (right or left) with experience! That doesn't happen very often n the NFL, hence, I think there might be some underlining reasons the Ravens are seriously entertaining a deal. Anyone here think the Ravens don't get it?? I happen to think that they get it pretty well, so it obviously makes me wonder!!

well i think its quite obvious that they feel oher has more upside as a LT, to which they've already invested in by selecting him in the first round, contract, etc etc. moreover, they most likely don't see it necessary or fiscally responsible to compensate a RT looking for LT money... (he was only a 5th rounder in the supplemental draft)

[Ed]

So have there been any other reports about Gaither's "half-baked" work ethic besides the one blogger?

The Ravens have a lot of talented star players who they're going to need to re-sign. Maybe they don't want to invest the money in Gaither since they don't need him to play LT and will need to use that money elsewhere in the next couple years. I'm sure they weren't exactly expecting him to become as good a player as he has, so now they would rather move him and get some good value then lose him as a FA next year or pay him the money he'll be looking for. It doesn't necessarily mean there's something wrong with him.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

this is similar to the jason peters trade last year only i think the bills can get better value for gaither...

[BertSquirtgum]

imo, he's not worth 10 million a year but what do i know. i would be happy just to get him because it might shut OP up for a little while.

[X-Era]

Not me. The situation at RT is weak but it's not a crisis. We have semi-legitamate options of Cornell, Meredith, maybe even Calloway. At LT we have an injured Bell and a not ready for prime time Wang. No. Either we're convinced this guy is a long term solution at LT and we extend him upfront or I say pass. Our draft picks are too valuable to give up a 2nd or 3rd for a RT that could walk away at the end of the season.

I think Calloway is moved to RG and Wood may start at Center.

[T-Long]

Pat Kirwan on Sirius NFL Radio said look for it to be Donte Whitner in return

[X-Era]

1 it has to be a sign and trade

Link?

[X-Era]

The trade is NOT for a right tackle and that demands $10 million, as a starting point.

Link?

[Bill Cody]

Gaither is a good LT, period. Maybe not quite franchise level, but he's 10x better than anything we have.

I don't understand the Oher argument. There were tons of reasons to make that draft pick - 1) make sure the OL is dominant, 2) best player on the board.

Since the Saints selected Charles Brown, does that mean Jammal Brown isn't a franchise LT? It's a matter of supply and demand. Both the Saints and Ravens now have a surplus of good OT's, and can afford to trade for one or more draft picks.

I'm not sayin Gaither's not a good player but to think they drafted another 1st round tackle and have been actively shopping him for any other reason other than they're not sold on him is naive. They've openly questioned his work ethic, ok? There's a pretty good sized spread between franchise and good, is there not?

Having said that I am in favor of the deal as long as we extend him and we're convinced he's the long term solution at LT. We are desperate and Gaither's is a huge upgrade for us, all I'm saying is let's not get carried away and turn him into a young Orlando Pace. Maybe a change of scenery will do him good, we could sure use a piece of good luck.

[DraftBoy]

Pat Kirwan on Sirius NFL Radio said look for it to be Donte Whitner in return

Oh that would be too good to be true!

[Bill Cody]

I think Calloway is moved to RG and Wood may start at Center.

I doubt this year but who knows.

[X-Era]

I doubt this year but who knows.

He could just be a depth pick... swing Tackle/Guard type... But I think he's better than that.

[Bill Cody]

Pat Kirwan on Sirius NFL Radio said look for it to be Donte Whitner in return

:brilliant:

[Night Train]

Pat Kirwan on Sirius NFL Radio said look for it to be Donte Whitner in return

" Hello baby, can I steal your candy ! "

[EDS]

Oh that would be too good to be true!

I agree. They can't be that desperate to unload Gaither, can they?

[Bill Cody]

He could just be a depth pick... swing Tackle/Guard type... But I think he's better than that.

Any 7th rounder that simply makes the team was a good pick. If Calloway turns into a solid starter you're talking big time steal.

[Tatonka]

This is the kind of move I would hope our new front office is capable of making. Especially if we can get him for less than a first.

Gaither is one of the better young left tackles in the league right now and provides instant credibility to our offensive line.

I don't think its too out of the box to think a Gaither signing could poise us to make a decent run next year. Especially if we get one of those highly touted QBs next year, and our picks this year turn out to be reliable players.

Get it done OBD! We need a left tackle!

so i would be lying if i said i knew all that much about Gaither.. he was a guy that came out in the supplemental draft correct? and if he is one of the best young left tackles in the league, why in Gods name are the Ravens trying to get rid of him?

im not doubting you, just asking because i dont know.

[Ebenezer]

ok, this is a rumor on May 7 and the rumors say it will happen before the season...that is a long time. The Ravens must have some reason for dumping him and the longer he is out there the more likely he will end up someplace other than Buffalo.

[scartown]

Pat Kirwan on Sirius NFL Radio said look for it to be Donte Whitner in return

This would help both teams greatly. Who knows what the health of Reed will be closer to the season and I don't even have to say how much the Bills need help at tackle. Get it done boys.

[YardRat]

imo, he's not worth 10 million a year but what do i know. i would be happy just to get him because it might shut OP up for a little while.

Op will ***** because the "Bill's front office just got screwed over by the Ravens, who obviously have better talent evaluators than we do. If Gaither was any good, the Ravens wouldn't be looking to move him."

I have to admit I'm a little bit concerned about the work ethic accusations.

[methos4ever]

Pat was actually going through an exercise to see what teams have depth at db to use as ammo for the trade. While he did mention Whitner, he spent far more time trying to thing of other teams to swoop under the Bills for Gaither, via their own depth or a three way trade. So hold your horses y'all...

[BertSquirtgum]

gaither is miles better than what we have at LT right now, so even with the work ethic concerns. i would gladly take him.

[plundar]

It would be nice, but I'll believe it when I see it.

I agree, I'll Billieve it when I see it.

[DrGraves]

please get this done without breaking the bank

[Buddo]

I would've thought we've got a spare corner we could use as bait, perhaps throw in a lower pick.

[BertSquirtgum]

i would love to see youboty on his way out of here. maybe they could package him and a low round draft pick?

[ServoBillieves]

This would be huge. My buddy at work just told me this before I left. With our numerous DB's, wouldn't be surprised if one of them left with a 4th or 5th rounder.

[bflojohn]

X-Era, I'm saying $10 million because Peters was offered #9.5 million by the Bills. I am sure the rest of the league is somewhat aware of this and so a baseline salary is therefore established for the new kid at OLT for Buffalo, Jared Gaither. Heck, that figure is "old" by contract parameters, so maybe they'd come riding in asking for $11 million or more! Negotiations can be a pain....

[BertSquirtgum]

his agent/s would be wasting their time asking for 11 million from any team for gaither. just not worth that much, imo. maybe in a couple years if he proves himself to be one of the top LTs.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/374315-jared-gaither-vs-michael-oher-ravens-lt-of-the-future

i don't think the gaither camp will be asking for top LT money........yet. i believe he would settle for a goal oriented contract. the more he accomplished for the bills. the more money he should get. this is obviously a wild guess but i think he could be signed for 5 million a year to start.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/04/27/new-deal-for-jared-gaither/

a lot of people are saying this guy is 26, he is 24.
Jared Gaither | #71 | T. Baltimore Ravens | Official Team Site. Height: 6-9 Weight: 340 Age: 24. Born: 3/18/1986

[plundar]

Joe Logan says so...I hope this is true.

http://thebillsbeat.com/Buffalo_Bills_News_Detail.aspx?article=39

[YardRat]

this is obviously a wild guess but i think he could be signed for 5 million a year to start.

No offense, but that's a pipe dream.

[jamze132]

Whitner/4th for Gaither seems fair to me. I would even make that pick a conditional to a 3rd based on Whitner's performance.

Obviously Gaither's people would want an extension which shouldn't be too hard to figure out. I'm thinking 4 yrs/$25-30M. That puts him at 28/29 in line for a big payday.

[YardRat]

I don't see Whitner being part of the deal. Parrish, maybe. McKelvin, I hope not. A likely candidate would be Leodis or Corner.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

I don't see Whitner being part of the deal. Parrish, maybe. McKelvin, I hope not. A likely candidate would be Leodis or Corner.


mckelvin is not on the table, i hope not... i would be upset about that trade...

[NOT THE DUDE...]

just give them corner... and a 3rd

[jamze132]

just give them corner... and a 3rd
Dude, you can't just make another team take a doucher off of our hands.

[scartown]

I don't see Whitner being part of the deal. Parrish, maybe. McKelvin, I hope not. A likely candidate would be Leodis or Corner.

Leodis isn't going anywhere.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

Dude, you can't just make another team take a doucher off of our hands.

dude reggie corner is starter quality...

[Dr. Lecter]

dude reggie corner is starter quality...

Not really.

[jamze132]

dude reggie corner is starter quality...
Wow. ok.

[X-Era]

X-Era, I'm saying $10 million because Peters was offered #9.5 million by the Bills. I am sure the rest of the league is somewhat aware of this and so a baseline salary is therefore established for the new kid at OLT for Buffalo, Jared Gaither. Heck, that figure is "old" by contract parameters, so maybe they'd come riding in asking for $11 million or more! Negotiations can be a pain....
9.5 was for a pro-bowl LT. Gaither isnt that yet. I see Gaither getting no more than what a guy like Barron will get. We will have to wait and see.

[X-Era]

mckelvin is not on the table, i hope not... i would be upset about that trade...

So would I. McKelvin is an up and comer. Move McGee.

[WeAreArthurMoates]

9.5 was for a pro-bowl LT. Gaither isnt that yet. I see Gaither getting no more than what a guy like Barron will get. We will have to wait and see.

Gaither is much better than Barron. Give me a break, Barron is a penalty machince and is not great in pass pro.

[X-Era]

Gaither is much better than Barron. Give me a break, Barron is a penalty machince and is not great in pass pro.

Maybe. My point is that Peters was considered a pro-bowl, top 10, maybe even top 5 LT in the league. Thats why the Eagles traded a 1st for him. Gaither is nowhere close to that yet. Hes a solid starting LT.

If Gaither = Peters why are the Ravens willing to take a 2nd when we traded Peters for a 1st?

[WeAreArthurMoates]

Maybe. My point is that Peters was considered a pro-bowl, top 10, maybe even top 5 LT in the league. Thats why the Eagles traded a 1st for him. Gaither is nowhere close to that yet. Hes a solid starting LT.

If Gaither = Peters why are the Ravens willing to take a 2nd when we traded Peters for a 1st?

Just like the same reason we traded Peters $. Plus the fact they have a suitable replacement in Oher. In the last 3 years Gaither has given up far fewer sacks than Peters. Gaither has given up 7, meanwhile Peters has given up 23 sacks. Ya Gaither isn't nowhere close to Peters. Sure buddy:scratch:

[wmoz11]

Gaither isn't practicing with the Ravens today.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/08/ravens-ot-gaither-a-no-show-on-saturday/

[billsfanryan]

Gaither isn't practicing with the Ravens today.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/08/ravens-ot-gaither-a-no-show-on-saturday/

I just saw this and was going to post it as well. This is good news for us.

[WeAreArthurMoates]

Schefter just tweeted he's in the complex though. Could be in training room?

[ParanoidAndroid]

I liked things much better when the nespaper reported these kinds of things. So far, all you have is rumor and 7 pages of posts. WTF

[BillsWin]

Peters was overrated and should have never been "considered a top 5 LT"

There is a good reason he was statistically the worst starting LT in the league last year.

[better days]

I liked things much better when the nespaper reported these kinds of things. So far, all you have is rumor and 7 pages of posts. WTF

The solution for you then is to stay off the boards until the trade is reported in the paper the day after it happens.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

please god dont trade mckelvin....

[mikemac2001]

:jam: :jam:I don't believe it until Joe Logan confirms it!!!!


HE has confirmed it

[BertSquirtgum]

No offense, but that's a pipe dream.

why? he made only 492,000 last year. 5 million would be a huge upgrade with an incentive laden contract.

[jamze132]

Gaither was in the training room yesterday being treated for a "variety of injuries" according to ESPN.

[YardRat]

why? he made only 492,000 last year. 5 million would be a huge upgrade with an incentive laden contract.

Because the 'upgrade' isn't relative to a previous contract, but rather to the current market.

5mil is way too low. 7-8mil might be doable, but then we got a great deal. Any contract this guy signs is going to be worth 9mil+ on average (with bonuses), most likely 10+.