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The 2-3 Win Prediction Folks Better Not Be Rooting For Trentative Or Fitz At QB
The 2-3 Win Prediction Folks Better Not Be Rooting For Trentative Or Fitz At QB
If the Bills are supposedly going to suck as bad as many of you are preaching, then they have nothing to lose in starting Brohm or even Brown at QB. That goes for most starting positions where old guard marginal players with zero upside are starting.
Start a youth movement since Gailey gets at least 3-4 years anyhow. He's got nothing to lose and Nix/Wailey need to build this thing right, once and for all.
Agree or Disagree ? Discuss...
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Re: The 2-3 Win Prediction Folks Better Not Be Rooting For Trentative Or Fitz At QB
Originally posted by Night Train
If the Bills are supposedly going to suck as bad as many of you are preaching, then they have nothing to lose in starting Brohm or even Brown at QB. That goes for most starting positions where old guard marginal players with zero upside are starting.
Start a youth movement since Gailey gets at least 3-4 years anyhow. He's got nothing to lose and Nix/Wailey need to build this thing right, once and for all.
Agree or Disagree ? Discuss...
Gailey will get canned if the team gets 2 or 3 wins this year... even Fewell could win 2 games with that mess of a squad.
the question you should be asking is... if this team at BEST can only win 7 games should they start Brohm or Brown to see what they have. I'd say yes... however... a 7 win team will be "in the chase" into november, maybe even december so it will never happen.
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Re: The 2-3 Win Prediction Folks Better Not Be Rooting For Trentative Or Fitz At QB
I still believe that Trent can salvage something from his career with a competent offensive head coach/OC. Who knows? Maybe he lights it up for whatever reason; he's got the tools.
Re: The 2-3 Win Prediction Folks Better Not Be Rooting For Trentative Or Fitz At QB
Originally posted by Ingtar33
Gailey will get canned if the team gets 2 or 3 wins this year... even Fewell could win 2 games with that mess of a squad.
the question you should be asking is... if this team at BEST can only win 7 games should they start Brohm or Brown to see what they have. I'd say yes... however... a 7 win team will be "in the chase" into november, maybe even december so it will never happen.
I dunno. I think 2 or 3 wins is realistic.
Take an honest look - there is no NT. One DE in Edwards and he is average. No OLBs. ILB should be OK. Solid DBs.
No OTs. Perhaps the best OL will be out for the start of the season. An average center. One starting WR. Hopefully one starting TE. 2 or 3 starting RBs. And no QB.
Tell why 2 or 3 wins is not what should be expected?
Re: The 2-3 Win Prediction Folks Better Not Be Rooting For Trentative Or Fitz At QB
Originally posted by Dr. Lecter
I dunno. I think 2 or 3 wins is realistic.
Take an honest look - there is no NT. One DE in Edwards and he is average. No OLBs. ILB should be OK. Solid DBs.
No OTs. Perhaps the best OL will be out for the start of the season. An average center. One starting WR. Hopefully one starting TE. 2 or 3 starting RBs. And no QB.
Tell why 2 or 3 wins is not what should be expected?
Because Dick Jauron was able to win 7 with this team and he is a worse coach then Gailey. The offense will be better, just because Gailey is running it. The defense could be OK, but we have to see...the switch to a 3-4 is a big one, but the Broncos did it last year with less talent. Granted, they had Nolan running it, so that has to mean something, but do not overlook Gailey's effect on this team and specifically the offense.
Re: The 2-3 Win Prediction Folks Better Not Be Rooting For Trentative Or Fitz At QB
Originally posted by Ingtar33
Gailey will get canned if the team gets 2 or 3 wins this year... even Fewell could win 2 games with that mess of a squad.
the question you should be asking is... if this team at BEST can only win 7 games should they start Brohm or Brown to see what they have. I'd say yes... however... a 7 win team will be "in the chase" into november, maybe even december so it will never happen.
Gailey isn't getting canned if we go 1-15 this year. But a poor performance in 2011 will put him in the hot seat. Any by poor performance, I mean under .500. Yeah, I'm not really shooting for the stars just yet.
I think 4-12 is realistic and anything less I will be disapointed. But if we just get beat, than I completely understand. But what I can't tolorate is the boneheaded mistakes and piss poor time management we are currently known for.
Re: The 2-3 Win Prediction Folks Better Not Be Rooting For Trentative Or Fitz At QB
Originally posted by jamze132
Gailey isn't getting canned if we go 1-15 this year. But a poor performance in 2011 will put him in the hot seat. Any by poor performance, I mean under .500. Yeah, I'm not really shooting for the stars just yet.
I think 4-12 is realistic and anything less I will be disappointed. But if we just get beat, than I completely understand. But what I can't tolerate is the boneheaded mistakes and piss poor time management we are currently known for.
I disagree. He was not loved when the Bills picked him (for good reason), there is almost no coach in the league with enough clout to survive a 1-15, 2-14 season and few who can survive a 3-13 season. I know Ralph is cheep but if the Bills stumble to a 1-15 season with this roster the coach HAS to go, and no matter how senile Ralph might be, i doubt he'd disagree with me.
4-12 is on the low side of realistic... you probably could have a corpse coach the bills to a 4 win season with this roster and the schedule we have. 7 wins is probably on the high side of realistic... and yeah... i'm sorta expecting a 5 or 6 win season right now.
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Re: The 2-3 Win Prediction Folks Better Not Be Rooting For Trentative Or Fitz At QB
Originally posted by Nighthawk
Because Dick Jauron was able to win 7 with this team and he is a worse coach then Gailey. The offense will be better, just because Gailey is running it. The defense could be OK, but we have to see...the switch to a 3-4 is a big one, but the Broncos did it last year with less talent. Granted, they had Nolan running it, so that has to mean something, but do not overlook Gailey's effect on this team and specifically the offense.
Don't forget that this team is actually WORSE than what Jauron had last year. On O, we lost Butler, Reed and TO, and have yet to replace any of them with someone equal or better. On D, we didn't really lose anyone of note, but we are worse simply by virtue of the switch to the 3-4 and the lack of the proper personnel. Brown or Brohm might get us 3 wins, Trent or Fitzy might get us 5.
Re: The 2-3 Win Prediction Folks Better Not Be Rooting For Trentative Or Fitz At QB
Originally posted by Ingtar33
I disagree. He was not loved when the Bills picked him (for good reason), there is almost no coach in the league with enough clout to survive a 1-15, 2-14 season and few who can survive a 3-13 season. I know Ralph is cheep but if the Bills stumble to a 1-15 season with this roster the coach HAS to go, and no matter how senile Ralph might be, i doubt he'd disagree with me.
4-12 is on the low side of realistic... you probably could have a corpse coach the bills to a 4 win season with this roster and the schedule we have. 7 wins is probably on the high side of realistic... and yeah... i'm sorta expecting a 5 or 6 win season right now.
The roster really sucks, especially for a 3-4 defense.
Re: The 2-3 Win Prediction Folks Better Not Be Rooting For Trentative Or Fitz At QB
On the other hand... you could throw Brohm or Brown to the wolves, then have another career destroyed before it even started (e.g. Edwards) due to getting battered by the opposing DEs. It goes both ways. Try to develop them, or save them for when they have a better line to play behind. If they're tanking this season, I'd much rather see the latter.
Re: The 2-3 Win Prediction Folks Better Not Be Rooting For Trentative Or Fitz At QB
Originally posted by Wagon Circler 22
2-3 wins is not realistic.
The bills have finished with 3 or fewer wins only one time in the last 24 years. Qb'd by Van Pelt and coached by Williams.
So those predicting a 2-3 win season are predicting the second one in a quarter of a century. Great odds.
The odds of having a 2-3 win season have nothing to do with what's happened over the last quarter century. They have to do with who's on the roster now.. And with the current roster and coaches, 3 wins is a lot more realistic than 10.
Re: The 2-3 Win Prediction Folks Better Not Be Rooting For Trentative Or Fitz At QB
Originally posted by OpIv37
Don't forget that this team is actually WORSE than what Jauron had last year. On O, we lost Butler, Reed and TO, and have yet to replace any of them with someone equal or better. On D, we didn't really lose anyone of note, but we are worse simply by virtue of the switch to the 3-4 and the lack of the proper personnel. Brown or Brohm might get us 3 wins, Trent or Fitzy might get us 5.
Butler played only two games last year. Cornell Green is a push at RT, I'd say.
The offense lost TO but gained Spiller's playmaking ability, and it's in much better hands with Gailey than AVP.
The 3-4 is an unknown, but an unknown is better than proven horrendous, as last year's team was against the run. Poz, Maybin and Ellis may actually be better suited for the 3-4 than 4-3. A lot will depend on Troup and Carrington, but again, hard to imagine being worse than last year.
The secondary is the same at worst, probably better with the return of McKelvin.
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