If people believe Edwards shouldn't be handed the starting job

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • more cowbell
    Registered User
    • Apr 2006
    • 1489

    If people believe Edwards shouldn't be handed the starting job

    Your logic makes no sense. Let's break it down.

    Sure, Brohm was a 2nd round pick, and a solid QB prospect coming out of Louisville, but he has done nothing but disappoint since entering the league.

    -He was demoted in his first season from 2nd to 3rd string behind a fellow rookie, 7th round draft pick (Matt Flynn) who was debating if he wanted to go pro in football or dentistry. That doesn't really say much about Brohm's talent level or potential.

    - After being cut last training camp, only his second season in the NFL, the Packers placed him on their practice squad, meaning he was available to 31 NFL teams. No team seemed to be in a hurry to sign him until the Bills, who needed a warm body at QB due to injuries finally picked him up mid-season.

    - His first ever NFL start was filled with "check-downs" and mistakes as he threw for 146 yards, 2 interceptions and no touchdowns, for a stellar 43.2 QB rating. Not exactly impressive...

    Edwards on the other hand, has started 32 games in three seasons, with a 77.9 QB rating, 24 touchdowns and 25 interceptions. Not exactly pro-bowl numbers...but collectively better than Mark Sanchez, Chad Henne, Matt Leinart, Kyle Orton, Matthew Stafford, Kevin Kolb, Alex Smith, Josh Freeman, and Vince Young who are all currently starting Quarterbacks in the league.

    - Following his best statistical year in 2008, Edwards had to deal with his offensive coordinator being fired a week before the start of the 2009 season, learning a new playbook during the season, seeing his Pro-Bowl Left Tackle (Jason Peters) shipped to Philadelphia, and his new starting Left Tackle, Langston Walker, who had been working with the first unit the entire 2009 offseason, released a week before the season as well.

    - Placed in front of Edwards were two rookie guards, a new center, and a left tackle who was selected in the 7th round of the 2008 draft, who had never started a NFL game in his career. Not exactly a recipie for success.

    Both Brohm and Edwards are in need of a second chance. It should be given to the guy who has shown in his career he can be successful in the NFL if put in the right situation, rather than the guy who has shown he can only be successful at the college level.

    Go Bills.
    Last edited by more cowbell; 07-26-2010, 11:55 AM.
    The last time the Bills made the playoffs was 1999.
  • Buckets
    Registered User
    • Jun 2003
    • 804

    #2
    Re: If people believe Edwards shouldn't be handed the starting job

    Curt Warner

    Comment

    • BertSquirtgum
      Legendary Zoner
      • May 2009
      • 13379

      #3
      Re: If people believe Edwards shouldn't be handed the starting job

      he sucks. get over it. whoever looks better in full contact football at training camp should be named the starter. trent is a bum and shouldn't be handed the #1 spot.

      Comment

      • The King
        Without me it's just Awe so
        • Jun 2004
        • 42380

        #4
        Re: If people believe Edwards shouldn't be handed the starting job

        No one should be handed anything. JP Losman was handed a job.

        You need to earn it.
        I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
        "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
        You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
        It was all
        true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
        He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
        mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


        Comment

        • Dr. Lecter
          Zero for Zero!
          • Mar 2003
          • 67946

          #5
          Re: If people believe Edwards shouldn't be handed the starting job

          Originally posted by Buckets
          Curt Warner

          Ahhhhh...

          The exeption proves the rule defense.
          Originally posted by mysticsoto
          Lecter is right in everything he said.

          Comment

          • justasportsfan
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 71601

            #6
            Re: If people believe Edwards shouldn't be handed the starting job

            Originally posted by more cowbell

            Sure, Brohm was a 2nd round pick, and a solid QB prospect coming out of Louisville, but he has done nothing but disappoint since entering the league. .
            Trent was a disappointment too.
            Originally posted by more cowbell
            -He was demoted in his first season from 2nd to 3rd string behind a fellow rookie, 7th round draft pick (Matt Flynn) who was debating if he wanted to go pro in football or dentistry. That doesn't really say much about Brohm's talent level or potential..
            Trent was demoted too .

            Originally posted by more cowbell
            - After being cut last training camp, only his second season in the NFL, the Packers placed him on their practice squad, meaning he was available to 31 NFL teams. No team seemed to be in a hurry to sign him until the Bills, who needed a warm body at QB due to injuries finally picked him up mid-season..
            that doesn't mean a player can't improve.

            Originally posted by more cowbell
            - His first ever NFL start was filled with "check-downs" and mistakes as he threw for 146 yards, 2 interceptions and no touchdowns, for a stellar 43.2 QB rating. Not exactly impressive.....
            Trents is known nationwide as Capt. Checkdown




            Originally posted by more cowbell

            Edwards on the other hand, has started 32 games in three seasons, with a 77.9 QB rating, 24 touchdowns and 25 interceptions. Not exactly pro-bowl numbers...but collectively better than Mark Sanchez, Chad Henne, Matt Leinart, Kyle Orton, Matthew Stafford, Kevin Kolb, Alex Smith, Josh Freeman, and Vince Young who are all currently starting Quarterbacks in the league...
            Not hard to have a better rating than those you mentioned when you keep checking down.

            Originally posted by more cowbell

            - Following his best statistical year in 2008, Edwards had to deal with his offensive coordinator being fired a week before the start of the 2009 season, learning a new playbook during the season, seeing his Pro-Bowl Left Tackle (Jason Peters) shipped to Philadelphia, and his new starting Left Tackle, Langston Walker, who had been working with the first unit the entire 2009 offseason, released a week before the season as well...
            what do you think Brohm had to deal with when he played the first game you are blasting him for? New OC, new team, new players, barely knew the playbook.etc.etc.
            Originally posted by more cowbell
            - Placed in front of Edwards were two rookie guards, a new center, and a left tackle who was selected in the 7th round of the 2008 draft, who had never started a NFL game in his career. Not exactly a recipie for success....
            who do you think was playing in front of Brohm?


            Originally posted by more cowbell

            Both Brohm and Edwards are in need of a second chance. It should be given to the guy who has shown in his career he can be successful in the NFL, rather than the guy who has shown he can only be successful at the college level.

            Go Bills.
            The best thing is to stop using the past to grade any of the qb's.
            Everyone gets a clean slate and let Chan and Cortez decide moving forward.
            Last edited by justasportsfan; 07-26-2010, 12:04 PM.
            sacrifice1
            https://theinterviewwithgod.com/video/

            Comment

            • Night Train
              Retired - On Several Levels
              • Jul 2005
              • 33117

              #7
              Re: If people believe Edwards shouldn't be handed the starting job

              Whatever.

              They're all keeping the seat warm for the 7th round pick Brown or next years early selection.
              Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

              Comment

              • HHURRICANE
                Registered User
                • Mar 2005
                • 15490

                #8
                Re: If people believe Edwards shouldn't be handed the starting job

                Well written thread Cowbell!

                I think Brohm and Fitz are being given every chance to win the job in OTAs, camp, and pre-season.

                However, If Edwards emerges as the starter are we still going to have to listen to people justify Brohm?

                Comment

                • HHURRICANE
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 15490

                  #9
                  Re: If people believe Edwards shouldn't be handed the starting job

                  Originally posted by HurkeyNuts
                  he sucks. get over it. whoever looks better in full contact football at training camp should be named the starter. trent is a bum and shouldn't be handed the #1 spot.
                  If Edwards wins the job are you still going to whine about it?

                  Comment

                  • Beebe's Kid
                    Registered User
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 3134

                    #10
                    Re: If people believe Edwards shouldn't be handed the starting job

                    Mrs. Edwards,

                    We have told you over and over, that your son will be given a chance to win the job. Your examples of Brohm's one game and Trent's two sub-par seasons have been heard and acknowledged.

                    Although this information you bring to the table about Brohm disappointing in Green Bay...please, tell us more. We haven't heard anything about this. Just kidding. We have heard your argument there, as well.

                    Thanks,

                    CG

                    Comment

                    • ddaryl
                      Everything I post is sexual inuendo
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 10714

                      #11
                      Re: If people believe Edwards shouldn't be handed the starting job

                      There is no logic because the Bills have not had a legitimate starting QB since Bledsoe

                      therefore it is still very much up for grabs and even if there is a starter named at the beginning of camp it may not be that way by the end of preseason.

                      IMO preseason is where we judge who is the real starter ... Hopefully Chan will have a plan to get all the QB's some work with starters in the 1st 2 preseason games with the last 2 preseason games used to get the season starter some extended time
                      Last edited by ddaryl; 07-26-2010, 12:15 PM.

                      Comment

                      • BertSquirtgum
                        Legendary Zoner
                        • May 2009
                        • 13379

                        #12
                        Re: If people believe Edwards shouldn't be handed the starting job

                        Originally posted by HHURRICANE
                        If Edwards wins the job are you still going to whine about it?
                        who's whining? he's terrible but if he can win the job then he will have proven to be the least terrible qb on the roster. you shouldn't be talking anyway. all you do is cry. only recently has it seemed that you have turned over a new leaf and stopped posting garbage.
                        Last edited by BertSquirtgum; 07-26-2010, 12:14 PM.

                        Comment

                        • better days
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 22028

                          #13
                          Re: If people believe Edwards shouldn't be handed the starting job

                          Is it logical to pick a guy that with all that experience has looked no better than the other two in OTA's? Is it logical to pick a guy that is the most injury prone QB in the entire NFL & is in the last year of his contract to start?

                          The bottem line is no matter how well Chan can get Trent to play he will need to be resigned to a BIG new contract & will still be an injury waiting to happen. I do not want the Bills to invest money or time in that type of guy myself.

                          Comment

                          • BertSquirtgum
                            Legendary Zoner
                            • May 2009
                            • 13379

                            #14
                            Re: If people believe Edwards shouldn't be handed the starting job

                            is it possible to clone jim kelly?

                            Comment

                            • justasportsfan
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 71601

                              #15
                              Re: If people believe Edwards shouldn't be handed the starting job

                              What isn't logical is handing someone the job based on the past staff that has nothing to do with the new.

                              It's more logical to start the best player under the new system.
                              Last edited by justasportsfan; 07-26-2010, 12:32 PM.
                              sacrifice1
                              https://theinterviewwithgod.com/video/

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X