Give Brohm due

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Like I said before, my first impression of Brohm was not good (last year). But he showed me something last night.

We know Trent went through progressions very fast - part of his west coast upbringing by Walt Harris. Brohm on the other hand, seems to read defense very fast, something Gailey mentioned it before.

When the QB have time, Trent will always do better. He sees and he fires. And he does have consistent accurate throws.

When there is a pressure, especially when pressure comes fast and furious, I project Brohm will do better. Because when you understand what defense is doing to you fast, you anticipate better. Let the ball fly to where you have the best matchup. It was evident when the colts blitzed Brohm last night.

I'd love to see him facing a 3-4 defense where it is a little harder to read to gauge his ability. Still, he needs to improve his accuracy regardless.

[mikemac2001]

did you see how the low snaps didn't even phase him even with blitz's coming at him

he knew what was in front of him and took what he read and didn't panic

trent played good but i still feel come the season 3-4 will kill him

[jmb1099]

Like I said before, my first impression of Brohm was not good (last year). But he showed me something last night.

We know Trent went through progressions very fast - part of his west coast upbringing by Walt Harris. Brohm on the other hand, seems to read defense very fast, something Gailey mentioned it before.

When the QB have time, Trent will always do better. He sees and he fires. And he does have consistent accurate throws.

When there is a pressure, especially when pressure comes fast and furious, I project Brohm will do better. Because when you understand what defense is doing to you fast, you anticipate better. Let the ball fly to where you have the best matchup. It was evident when the colts blitzed Brohm last night.

I'd love to see him facing a 3-4 defense where it is a little harder to read to gauge his ability. Still, he needs to improve his accuracy regardless.
I thought he did very well considering it was his first real game. It was obvious he understands defense and the slants were things of beauty. A little more work with the first team and one of those is being taken in for 6 or at least a very large gain. Also the sideline pass over the shoulder was beautiful.

[Mahdi]

did you see how the low snaps didn't even phase him even with blitz's coming at him

he knew what was in front of him and took what he read and didn't panic

trent played good but i still feel come the season 3-4 will kill him
Looks like we have to suffer a couple of losses to Miami and Green Bay to figure out ONCE AGAIN, that Trent can't play.

[Beebe's Kid]

Looks like we have to suffer a couple of losses to Miami and Green Bay to figure out ONCE AGAIN, that Trent can't play. That depends on how far Trent wants to go to try and prove he can...because if he tries to hang in there and make a decision under pressure, he will be injured quickly.

How bad do you think Brohm would like to beat the Packers in GB?

[Mahdi]

That depends on how far Trent wants to go to try and prove he can...because if he tries to hang in there and make a decision under pressure, he will be injured quickly.

How bad do you think Brohm would like to beat the Packers in GB?
Bad enough to put a few ex-lax tablets in Trent's Gatorade I hope.

[HHURRICANE]

I think brohm has come a long way but he was playing against second string last night.

Still not sure he did enough to be #2. Not sure why levi Brown is loved so much on this board?

If i were the coach I'd keep the three we have and dump Brown to PS.

[Philagape]

I think brohm has come a long way but he was playing against second string last night.

Still not sure he did enough to be #2. Not sure why levi Brown is loved so much on this board?

If i were the coach I'd keep the three we have and dump Brown to PS.

Plus, nobody seems to bring up the fact that in five Brohm possessions, the team scored three points.

He did well running a DIII offense. But he didn't do anything Trent's never done, and his play was marked by some of the same complaints about Trent: nothing but short stuff and little scoring.

[jmb1099]

Plus, nobody seems to bring up the fact that in five Brohm possessions, the team scored three points.

He did well running a DIII offense. But he didn't do anything Trent's never done, and his play was marked by some of the same complaints about Trent: nothing but short stuff and little scoring.
I brought up the scoring thing twice. It was also his first game and he looked decent.

[jmb1099]

I think brohm has come a long way but he was playing against second string last night.

Still not sure he did enough to be #2. Not sure why levi Brown is loved so much on this board?

If i were the coach I'd keep the three we have and dump Brown to PS.
He was also playing with second and third string. The only thing saving brown is that he has an arm that can throw a ball throw a brick wall.
I thought Trent did enough to be the starter and Brohm did more than enough in his first game to prove he belongs on the team.

[justasportsfan]

Trent doesn't throw a lot of balls like Brohm made to Jackson. Jackson wasn't open but Brohm trusted him to make a play. That throw was no different from the Colts qb made when Lankster first got burned.

Throws like those and throwing into tight spaces are throws I am looking for in a qb. This is where Trent didn't have the confidence to make in the past.

I do have to give Trent credit for the throw he made to Lee. Lee didn't have to slow down. Trent hit him in stride. That gives Lee the advantage over his cover.

[psubills62]

Plus, nobody seems to bring up the fact that in five Brohm possessions, the team scored three points.

He did well running a DIII offense. But he didn't do anything Trent's never done, and his play was marked by some of the same complaints about Trent: nothing but short stuff and little scoring.

I've mentioned the scoring several times. Putting the ball in the end zone on the first drive would have gone a long way for Brohm.

He didn't do anything Trent's never done? Maybe on the stat sheet, yes. I saw him consistently hit the slant. I saw him consistently hit the open receiver who was sitting in the hole in the zone. I saw him pretty consistently throw the ball quickly and right to the receiver. Once in a while I see Trent doing those things.

You can say that his throws and Trent's throws were all "short stuff," but they are much, much different. Trent waits and waits and then dumps it off to his RB. Brohm zipped it out to his receiver as soon as he could. Brohm may have only thrown short passes, but he looked a heck of a lot more consistent and better than Trent.

[justasportsfan]

I agree with Philagape. Brohm didn't do anything that Trent hasn't done in the past. The difference is simply the quality of the throws. Ball gets to the wrs faster.

[madness]

Brohm looked decent against 2nd teamers completing short, high % passes but his inaccuracy got the best of him in the redzone and he settled for a check down on third and long while having an opportunity to go deep. His pass to Jackson was very nice but I did not see anything that warranted him starting over Trent. I do think you continue his development by bumping him up to #2.

[justasportsfan]

I do think you continue his development by bumping him up to #2.


I just wonder how much better he could be if he was gettng as much snaps as Trent does at practice .

[JCBills]

Plus, nobody seems to bring up the fact that in five Brohm possessions, the team scored three points.

He did well running a DIII offense. But he didn't do anything Trent's never done, and his play was marked by some of the same complaints about Trent: nothing but short stuff and little scoring.

Nobody seems to mention that if you take away Spiller making a play by himself and Lee beating the world by 10 yds, Trent was 4/7 for 23 yds with a handful of 3 and outs, not to mention the incredibly dumb throw on the first drive.

[JCBills]

I just wonder how much better he could be if he was gettng as much snaps as Trent does at practice .

I think in showing he can perform well with the 2's and 3's, he's earned a look with the 1's, or should.

[Mad Max]

....... Not sure why levi Brown is loved so much on this board......


Because he's not proven himself useless like Fitzy has? He couldn't be worse.

[more cowbell]

While Levi Brown is young, I just do not see why its assumed he is going to make the team. He may have a big arm and some potential, but he is not even in the same league as Fitz, Brohm, or Edwards...and that is REALLY saying something.

We have enough projects on this team right now, and I can't see there being a huge rush from 31 other teams to scoop up Levi Brown to their active roster if we placed him on our practice squad.

[justasportsfan]

There were two people who went to see a voodoo specialist to put a curse on Brohm. Fitz and HH

[better days]

While Levi Brown is young, I just do not see why its assumed he is going to make the team. He may have a big arm and some potential, but he is not even in the same league as Fitz, Brohm, or Edwards...and that is REALLY saying something.

We have enough projects on this team right now, and I can't see there being a huge rush from 31 other teams to scoop up Levi Brown to their active roster if we placed him on our practice squad.

I agree. I don't know why so many people think a 7th rnd pick is all that coveted by other teams. He was there for the taking for 6+ rnds in the last draft.

[Michael82]

I didn't get wowed by Brohm, but I loved the passes he made and how he showed some poise out there. I think he's earned the #2 spot now.

[Philagape]

I've mentioned the scoring several times. Putting the ball in the end zone on the first drive would have gone a long way for Brohm.

He didn't do anything Trent's never done? Maybe on the stat sheet, yes. I saw him consistently hit the slant. I saw him consistently hit the open receiver who was sitting in the hole in the zone. I saw him pretty consistently throw the ball quickly and right to the receiver. Once in a while I see Trent doing those things.

You can say that his throws and Trent's throws were all "short stuff," but they are much, much different. Trent waits and waits and then dumps it off to his RB. Brohm zipped it out to his receiver as soon as he could. Brohm may have only thrown short passes, but he looked a heck of a lot more consistent and better than Trent.

Yay, he did well with training wheels on.
Brohm's not going to get far being a one-read QB against defenses with no game planning.
Waiting and waiting is called going through progressions. Trent's not very good at it right now, but Brohm didn't even try it. He's going to have to take that next step before he's even in the conversation.

[better days]

Yay, he did well with training wheels on.
Brohm's not going to get far being a one-read QB against defenses with no game planning.
Waiting and waiting is called going through progressions. Trent's not very good at it right now, but Brohm didn't even try it. He's going to have to take that next step before he's even in the conversation.

When under great pressure last night, Brohm got the ball away in a hurry & completed passes. I thought much better than we have seen from Trent in similar circumstances.

[Philagape]

When under great pressure last night, Brohm got the ball away in a hurry & completed passes. I thought much better than we have seen from Trent in similar circumstances.

When he throws the ball that quick, the "pressure" is irrelevant. Let's see how he handles pressure when he actually wants to throw beyond 10 yards or wait more than 2 seconds. And especially after defenses actually prepare for him.
No QB can make it in the NFL with one trick.

[better days]

When he throws the ball that quick, the "pressure" is irrelevant. Let's see how he handles pressure when he actually wants to throw beyond 10 yards or wait more than 2 seconds. And especially after defenses actually prepare for him.
No QB can make it in the NFL with one trick.

Yeah, I want to see more of him. What I saw last night looked good though. If he held the ball more than 2 secs last night he would have been sacked a number of times. He did go downfield a few times.

[psubills62]

Yay, he did well with training wheels on.
Brohm's not going to get far being a one-read QB against defenses with no game planning.
Waiting and waiting is called going through progressions. Trent's not very good at it right now, but Brohm didn't even try it. He's going to have to take that next step before he's even in the conversation.
I saw Brohm go through some progressions...and why do you need to go through progressions if you can complete a pass to your first or second read? Which Brohm did most of the time. I even saw a pump fake from Brohm before he threw it to another receiver. First time in a long time I've seen one of those.

That's fine for a QB to go through his progressions when his receivers are covered...but when that's all a QB does is sit there and never throw it to a WR, that's not good.