Maybin is still irrelevant. [Archive] - BillsZone.com

JCBills

08-21-2010, 01:11 PM

He was handfighting a little better this game, but Antonio Coleman looked like a man possessed at times. It will be interesting to see how many OLBs we carry into the season with how big of a question mark it is though.

Hogwasher

08-21-2010, 01:13 PM

Situational pass rusher, marginal teammate, sunk cost. Maybin makes the team despite the better judgment of this board.

Novacane

08-21-2010, 01:48 PM

bust

TacklingDummy

08-21-2010, 02:10 PM

Taking in consideration the players drafted after him, Maybin in the biggest bust in Buffalo Bills history.

Mad Bomber

08-21-2010, 02:13 PM

Taking in consideration the players drafted after him, Maybin in the biggest bust in Buffalo Bills history.
Walt Patulski. First pick overall. Sucked.

Mad Max

08-21-2010, 02:27 PM

This guy is still not impressive.

He has the luxury of time, one maybe two more seasons fortunately for him.
So lets hope for our sake he makes the best of it.

Unfortunately his main flaw is going to be very hard to overcome and that's his lack of mass. Strength training is great and it helps, but there's no substitute for natural genetic mass and strength.

I just hope that the guy who ultimately green lighted his pick was Jauron and not someone still on staff.

mayotm

08-21-2010, 03:05 PM

This guy is still not impressive.True, very similar to most of your posts.

Seriously though, does there have to be 10 Maybin sucks threads every day? At this point, who is arguing? I guess it's a way to post something that everybody will agree with.

SquishDaFish

08-21-2010, 03:08 PM

TacklingDummy

08-21-2010, 03:27 PM

Im tired of this bust ****. Its not his fault Buffalo selected him soo high. He is and was a project to begin with. Now hes in the position he should of been in from the beginning.Give the young kid a chance with real coaches. He is a MISTAKE pick from a ****TY front office on a ****TY team plain and simple. Let the kid grow and get better with real coaches.

11. Aaron Maybin

12. Knowshon Moreno
13. Brian Orakpo
14. Malcolm Jenkins
15. Brian Cushings
19. Jeremy Maclin
20. Brandon Pettigrew
21. Alex Mack
22. Percy Harvin
23. Michael Oher
25. Vontae Davis
26. Clay Matthews
29. Hakeem Nicks
30. Kenny Britt
31. Chris Wells

When this "Mistake" doesn't grow are you going to blame the "good coaching" or will you label him the bust that he is? Sorry but either players have it or they don't.

Enough said.

Billz_fan

08-21-2010, 03:47 PM

Agree it wasn't his fault he got picked where he did but he sure did hold out for more money. He cashed in.

Bust.

Beebe's Kid

08-21-2010, 03:58 PM

Agree it wasn't his fault he got picked where he did but he sure did hold out for more money. He cashed in.

Bust.

Does that mean if you were selected that high, and knew you weren't ready, you wouldn't want the money?

Seems if he was nervous it may be his only contract, all the reason to want more $$.

TacklingDummy

08-21-2010, 04:08 PM

Does that mean if you were selected that high, and knew you weren't ready, you wouldn't want the money?

Seems if he was nervous it may be his only contract, all the reason to want more $$.

Being picked high or getting paid has nothing to do with my opinions of him being a bust.

His performance on the field and all the good players who drafted after him are my reasons.

SquishDaFish

08-21-2010, 04:12 PM

Performance on the field I understand TD but he was put in a position to fail at DE with his small frame. But being picked before other good players IS NOT HIS FAULT its the ****ty front offices fault.

Prov401

08-21-2010, 04:13 PM

This kid was 21 years old a couple of months ago. He has desire and passion. Right now, he's just lacking the strength. But you can't teach speed, and work ethic, which he has. Packing on lbs is something that can be taught/achieved. His body is barley done developing. I wasn't crazy about another Bills 'potential' pick, but I'm waiting to see what happens before I start calling this 22 year old kid a 'bust'.

Mr. Pink

08-21-2010, 04:39 PM

Somewhere Erik Flowers is happy about this.

DMBcrew36

08-21-2010, 04:46 PM

Some of you will have to get off Maybin's dick some day.

The kid is a joke and the Bills ****ed up. Many of us, including myself, were begging to hear Orakpo's name when Bruce Smith went up to the podium. Who the hell is evaluating talent over at OBD if a nobody like me knows better than them?

NOT THE DUDE...

08-21-2010, 04:49 PM

It took cameron wake like 4 years to develop his body...

DMBcrew36

08-21-2010, 04:56 PM

It took cameron wake like 4 years to develop his body...

Ok, assuming he even develops into an 'ok' player some day...

A 7-9 team that hasn't sniffed the playoffs in 10 years should not be picking undersized 4-yr projects who only played 10 games in college, when they have players like Orakpo on the board.

No matter what - it was still an epic waste of a pick, and a waste of money. And if he ever does develop into something other than a turd, watch it be in his final year before becoming a free-agent.

Buffalogic

08-21-2010, 05:05 PM

Eric Flowers > Aaron Maybin

Prov401

08-21-2010, 05:17 PM

Ok, assuming he even develops into an 'ok' player some day...

A 7-9 team that hasn't sniffed the playoffs in 10 years should not be picking undersized 4-yr projects who only played 10 games in college, when they have players like Orakpo on the board.

No matter what - it was still an epic waste of a pick, and a waste of money. And if he ever does develop into something other than a turd, watch it be in his final year before becoming a free-agent.

And this is Aaron Maybin's fault how? Your bashing the wrong person(s) pal.

YardRat

08-21-2010, 05:23 PM

HHURRICANE

08-21-2010, 05:30 PM

He is young, and learning a new system, so that makes his job safe for this season. Obviously, he's been a disappointment thus far, whatever the circumstances.

I'm just hoping for the team's sake he can develop into some kind of every-down player for us. He'll probably never play up to his draft position, but if he can become a consistent starter and we can plug in talent at other positions around him, I'll be happier with that than having another bust on our hands.

I really thought he'd be bigger coming in this season. he's not. He's getting tossed around.

Alot of people on here are trying to say it's not Maybin's fault that he got picked so high by the Bills. Whatever. It's still doesn't change that he's been useless so far.

Prov401

08-21-2010, 06:02 PM

I really thought he'd be bigger coming in this season. he's not. He's getting tossed around.

Alot of people on here are trying to say it's not Maybin's fault that he got picked so high by the Bills. Whatever. It's still doesn't change that he's been useless so far.

So your excuse to us people that are hitting the nail on the head with the Maybin pick being all on the organization's shoulders is 'whatever'? Oh, ok.

I wanted Orakpo too. Just to put that out there. However, this is a kid we're talking about here. A kid. He works hard, and is dedicated. Hard work always pays off. You can't teach work ethic, or speed. Both of which Maybin has. Getting bigger is something that he absolutely has to work on, and will understand that in order to be successful, he needs to pack on some lbs. He has one of the quickest first steps I've seen, and I'm far from giving up on this 'bust' just yet.

Aaron Maybin couldn't help that he was picked by the Bills. Be angry at the front office, and not Maybin.

kingJofNYC

08-21-2010, 07:40 PM

If we hit on a guy like Coleman, and he actually produces, who cares what Maybin is.

I'm not going to blame the guy, he's working his butt off trying to get the job done, not his fault he was chosen so high.

Not sure if any of you are watching the Jets/Panthers game, but Everett Brown is looking impressive against DBrick.

PA Bills Fan

08-21-2010, 08:28 PM

Maybe he could be turned into a tight end.

Crisis

08-21-2010, 08:45 PM

this isn't little league where everyone gets a trophy.

who cares if he has good effort? i care if he produces and right now it looks like he never will.

Billz_fan

08-21-2010, 09:10 PM

this isn't little league where everyone gets a trophy.

who cares if he has good effort? i care if he produces and right now it looks like he never will.

Exactly, Not his fault wher ehe got drafted I agree, but he held out and got a big fat payday. Now we are supposed to wait for him to develop ?? I don't think so. Time to earn that paycheck son.

Crisis

08-21-2010, 09:33 PM

i'm sure there's some hardworking kids mopping the floors at mcdonalds.

Bmax

08-21-2010, 09:41 PM

No way greatest in Bills history.....Mike Williams....and for those that can remember Walt Patulski....Yikes....no 1 overall....

Bmax

Philagape

08-21-2010, 10:03 PM

I think it's implied that whenever a highly drafted player gets ripped, it's really, by extension, the front office. It's not personal (unless the player himself shows personal qualities deserving of a ripping)

SABURZFAN

08-21-2010, 10:14 PM

11. Aaron Maybin

12. Knowshon Moreno
13. Brian Orakpo
14. Malcolm Jenkins
15. Brian Cushings
19. Jeremy Maclin
20. Brandon Pettigrew
21. Alex Mack
22. Percy Harvin
23. Michael Oher
25. Vontae Davis
26. Clay Matthews
29. Hakeem Nicks
30. Kenny Britt
31. Chris Wells

When this "Mistake" doesn't grow are you going to blame the "good coaching" or will you label him the bust that he is? Sorry but either players have it or they don't.

Enough said.

i just want to throw up when i see Alex Mack and Michael Oher's name. not because i think they're bad players but because i think the Bills could have had them and they'd be Day 1 starters. :sigh:

ChristopherWalken

08-22-2010, 06:51 AM

I'm trying not to overlook the fact that he was drafted into the wrong defensive system last year...and has yet to play a regular season game this year.

However, it is a little discerning that this kid can't seem to outplay the competition in practice. And after watching the two games this year, I have to agree that he looks out muscled and out maneuvered by the opposition. I have to admit that he is anything but round 1 impressive.

I will still give him the season to earn the "bust" label for the simple fact that sometimes things take time to develop. Sometimes....sometimes

John Doe

08-22-2010, 07:12 AM

Right now Maybin is a pass rush specialist.

This is not as relevant as being a starter but it is still relevant overall.

Jan Reimers

08-22-2010, 08:25 AM

No way greatest in Bills history.....Mike Williams....and for those that can remember Walt Patulski....Yikes....no 1 overall....Bmax
And Richie Lucas, our initial number 1 pick.

YardRat

08-22-2010, 08:32 AM

If Maybin were smart, he'd of been on the phone to Biscuit as soon as it was announced we were switching to a 34.

TacklingDummy

08-22-2010, 08:45 AM

Walt Patulski. First pick overall. Sucked.

Sorry, I wasn't even a year old when he was drafted.

What I read about Patulski... "As a rookie, led the Bills in sacks with 5. In 1973 the Bills improved to a 9-5 record after going 4-9-1 in his rookie season of 1972. Patulski recorded 7 sacks, which was second on the team and was voted AP NFL Defensive Player of the Week November 28, 1973, after week eleven. In 1974, the Bills recorded another 9-5 record and made the playoffs for the first time in eight years as Patulski recorded 5-1/2 sacks. The Bills were 8-6 his third season, but did not advance to the AFC playoffs. He recorded only 4 sacks, a career low, however, 2 came in a game against the St. Louis Cardinals offensive line, who gave up only 8 sacks in 1975."

...sounds like he had a better career than Maybin.

kelly2reed4six

08-22-2010, 09:43 AM

This guy is still not impressive.

Amen to that! If I recall, he looked ok last pre-season right? Got a few sacks, etc.....then he sucked during the season. Let's hope that he does exactly what he did last year, just in the opposite order cuz thus far this guy has been the biggest waste of a pick!

SquishDaFish

08-22-2010, 09:46 AM

Sorry, I wasn't even a year old when he was drafted.

What I read about Patulski... "As a rookie, led the Bills in sacks with 5. In 1973 the Bills improved to a 9-5 record after going 4-9-1 in his rookie season of 1972. Patulski recorded 7 sacks, which was second on the team and was voted AP NFL Defensive Player of the Week November 28, 1973, after week eleven. In 1974, the Bills recorded another 9-5 record and made the playoffs for the first time in eight years as Patulski recorded 5-1/2 sacks. The Bills were 8-6 his third season, but did not advance to the AFC playoffs. He recorded only 4 sacks, a career low, however, 2 came in a game against the St. Louis Cardinals offensive line, who gave up only 8 sacks in 1975."

...sounds like he had a better career than Maybin.

Maybin hasnt had a career yet. Jesus TD give it up already

DMBcrew36

08-22-2010, 11:08 AM

Maybin hasnt had a career yet. Jesus TD give it up already

So we can count on at least 7 sacks this year from Maybin? He certainly didn't get anywhere near 5 sacks in his rookie year.

HHURRICANE

08-22-2010, 11:18 AM

this isn't little league where everyone gets a trophy.

who cares if he has good effort? i care if he produces and right now it looks like he never will.

We have a winner!! Would should have kept Losman based on this logic!

Good post Crisis! Haven't seen you much on here?!!

Mahdi

08-22-2010, 11:34 AM

With the injury to Torbor, Maybin will have a chance to develop more in practice and over the last 2 preseason games.

better days

08-22-2010, 11:42 AM

We have a winner!! Would should have kept Losman based on this logic!

Good post Crisis! Haven't seen you much on here?!!

Well the Bills kept Losman until his contract ended, I would expect them to do the same with Maybin & hope for better results from him.

SABURZFAN

08-22-2010, 02:31 PM

i think Beastmode is a Maybin Licker. :snicker:

SquishDaFish

08-22-2010, 04:17 PM

i think Beastmode is a Maybin Licker. :snicker:

No Im disappointed in that pick just like everyone. But It doesnt make him a BUST in only his 2nd year. And you shouldnt hate on him because the **** team called the Bills decided to draft him so high and over the players drafted behind him. Their the dip****s not him.

SABURZFAN

08-22-2010, 05:03 PM

No Im disappointed in that pick just like everyone. But It doesnt make him a BUST in only his 2nd year. And you shouldnt hate on him because the **** team called the Bills decided to draft him so high and over the players drafted behind him. Their the dip****s not him.

calm down, Beast. i'm just playing. let's hope he can prove the doubters wrong.

we are

08-22-2010, 06:34 PM

Raptor

08-22-2010, 06:50 PM

LOL its always fun to read peoples irrational thoughts on Maybin. He was a project when we drafted him whether or not that was the right thing to do is irrelevant right now. He's a Bill and a very young one at that with still a high ceiling considering he is younger than everyone of our draft picks selected this year

Seriously the immediate impact was not going to happen, that however doesn't mean he's a bust. Ellis started off slow with his career and now looks like he could start and contribute. How many bust and cut threads were there for him?

oh and btw way the people who keep rattling off "i would have picked Orakpo, i would have picked Orakpo" I suggest you go by a Skins board and see who has been the most invisible player on the Skins defense and has a whopping 2 tackles and no where near the ball on the vast majority of his snaps

SquishDaFish

08-22-2010, 07:37 PM

calm down, Beast. i'm just playing. let's hope he can prove the doubters wrong.

Oh I know Sabz wasnt getting upset with u bro

DMBcrew36

08-22-2010, 08:48 PM

bruce smith announced the maybin pick huh?

Yep, probably because in a few months he would be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

I still can picture it in my head due to what a DISASTROUS pick it was.