Ok so Mabin To inside backer and Hardy to TE.

[acehole]

Change the subject change the story....
Possibly a position change would do these guys both good.

We are thin at backer and also lack playmakers.
Mabin.
Why not move him next to pos?
Would be good in pass coverage.
Would be a threat to rush the passer from that position. (We don't now).
Is smallish and might lack toughness but so is ellison..see what he can do?

Hardy.
Might not get good separation against dbs but possibly fast enough to out run a backer or safty?
Stacked at WR.
Thin at TE.
We can use him like Shannon Sharp in denver years ago. Similar system.
He can also back up wr or be in on multi wr sets.
He can chip block.
He can cut block.
Teach him to inline block.
Get him on the creatin a lil.

[Dr. Lecter]

Re: Ok so Mabin To inside backer and Hardy to TE.

Hardy is way too small to play TE.

Maybin does not have the build to play ILB and his speed and quickness is, in theory, great for an OLB.

[psubills62]

Re: Ok so Mabin To inside backer and Hardy to TE.

Why move Maybin to ILB? OLB may be more of a concern, he doesn't fit well at ILB at all, in terms of play or measurables. Hardy would have to gain a lot of weight to play TE.

If we're going to scrap together bottom-of-the-barrel solutions at TE, I'd rather take whoever the Packers cut.

[BidsJr]

Re: Ok so Mabin To inside backer and Hardy to TE.

Cut both of them.

[acehole]

Re: Ok so Mabin To inside backer and Hardy to TE.

Hardy is way too small to play TE.

Maybin does not have the build to play ILB and his speed and quickness is, in theory, great for an OLB.

I mentioned these pionts....but it might be worth a shot.
6 5 is not to small...

[acehole]

Re: Ok so Mabin To inside backer and Hardy to TE.

Why move Maybin to ILB? OLB may be more of a concern, he doesn't fit well at ILB at all, in terms of play or measurables. Hardy would have to gain a lot of weight to play TE.

If we're going to scrap together bottom-of-the-barrel solutions at TE, I'd rather take whoever the Packers cut.

Ellis and kelsay have the OLB spot locked up imho.
Mabin might be the better player to play nex to pos.

Again see shannon sharp. In this zone blocking system it is not really demanding on TE position. The position has to help out and block a db or lb at second level. Chop and cut blocking can be done by parrish if need be. size doent mater as much.

I am not advocating this just give them a try at it.

[Dr. Lecter]

Re: Ok so Mabin To inside backer and Hardy to TE.

I mentioned these pionts....but it might be worth a shot.
6 5 is not to small...

220 Lbs is too small at that height. He would need to put on 30 pounds. At least.

[psubills62]

Re: Ok so Mabin To inside backer and Hardy to TE.

Ellis and kelsay have the OLB spot locked up imho.
Mabin might be the better player to play nex to pos.

Again see shannon sharp. In this zone blocking system it is not really demanding on TE position. The position has to help out and block a db or lb at second level. Chop and cut blocking can be done by parrish if need be. size doent mater as much.

I am not advocating this just give them a try at it.

Ellis and Kelsay are the starters, but it doesn't mean they can't rotate guys. Maybin is obviously being groomed to be a 3rd down specialist for now, they almost certainly don't want to remove him from that.

Maybin doesn't know any of the Ted LB responsibilities, and Davis has a lot of experience there. Not worth even bothering to switch them at this point even if Maybin was a good fit.

[k-oneputt]

Re: Ok so Mabin To inside backer and Hardy to TE.

If Maybin wasn't the 11 th pick in last years drafted he would be getting cut this year. He plays like a 3rd stringer.
The only hope is he is young and he will fill out physically and get better.

[OpIv37]

Re: Ok so Mabin To inside backer and Hardy to TE.

220 Lbs is too small at that height. He would need to put on 30 pounds. At least.

6'5" 220? Maybe Hardy can play D. Isn't that about perfect size for 4-3 DE/3-4 OLB?

[k-oneputt]

Re: Ok so Mabin To inside backer and Hardy to TE.

6'5" 220? Maybe Hardy can play D. Isn't that about perfect size for 4-3 DE/3-4 OLB?

It is if you are a scout for the Bills the last ten years.

[EDS]

Re: Ok so Mabin To inside backer and Hardy to TE.

Stacked at WR.

Did the Bills make a trade?

[justasportsfan]

Re: Ok so Mabin To inside backer and Hardy to TE.

Maybin still struggles against the run even in space. You will slow him down while trying to shed off blockers in highly congested traffic. He needs space to use his quickness.

Hardy isn't physical enough as a wr all the more playing TE.

[trapezeus]

Re: Ok so Mabin To inside backer and Hardy to TE.

hardy should in theory have an easier time learning how to run routes than learning a new skill like running blocking at the wrong weight.

maybin, i'll wait to see him over the course of this year in real games before i judge him. and in truth, i'll probably know after 4 real games on whether i think there is anything there.

if i was forced to guess on him based on the limited preseason i watched of him, he's an over paid back-up. want to cut costs on the payroll get rid of that guy and sign a veteran who actually has played OLB for significantly cheaper.

it would seem to me to be a great way to preach accountability. To cut a 1st rounder that may not go anywhere and prove to the team, "we don't play politics, we play players who play well."

[DraftBoy]

Re: Ok so Mabin To inside backer and Hardy to TE.

Actually I dont think either of these ideas are bad one if you allow each player a year to grow into their new position. Neither could do it today but they may suit each other well (especially Hardy).