Sage Rosenfels to Giants

[Nighthawk]

Hmmm, now this is what most Bills fans would rather have as a backup then a guy who's never done anything and never will in this league. Rosenfels has proven his ability to be a very quality backup...something Fitz has never done.

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[Lone Stranger]

He's better than Edwards.

[Turf]

Sage nor anyone one else is good enough for the Buffalo Bills. If we grabbed him thats all you would hear on this board. Hes a bum.

[Demon]

Hmmm, now this is what most Bills fans would rather have as a backup then a guy who's never done anything and never will in this league. Rosenfels has proven his ability to be a very quality backup...something Fitz has never done.

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If the Bills had gotten him, it'd be for a starting role, not backup.

[BertSquirtgum]

Sage nor anyone one else is good enough for the Buffalo Bills. If we grabbed him thats all you would hear on this board. Hes a bum.

ummmm. nope. you would be hearing he should replace trent as the #1 as soon as his plane landed.

[more cowbell]

LOL this guy is not a starting QB, nor is he much better than Fitzpatrick....actually he is the SAME THING as Fitzpatrick.

He's highly inconsistent, has some big games, makes a LOT of stupid plays, and ultimatley is an average 2nd string QB

[BertSquirtgum]

he would be the starter on this team. who are you trying to kid? yourself or us?

[psubills62]

LOL this guy is not a starting QB, nor is he much better than Fitzpatrick....actually he is the SAME THING as Fitzpatrick.

He's highly inconsistent, has some big games, makes a LOT of stupid plays, and ultimatley is an average 2nd string QB
Who are you kidding? He's a heck of a lot better than Fitzpatrick. A quick glance at the stats shows that.

Sage Rosenfels:
http://www.nfl.com/players/sagerosenfels/profile?id=ROS396938

Ryan Fitzpatrick:
http://www.nfl.com/players/ryanfitzpatrick/profile?id=FIT792915


Things Rosenfels has done during a season that Fitzpatrick has not:
1. Thrown for a TD:INT ratio that is higher than 1 [3/5]
2. Had a 60+% completion percentage. [3/5]
3. Thrown for more than 6.3 yards per attempt. [5/5]
4. Had a QB rating better than 70.0 [4/5]

The numbers in the brackets are the number of seasons (out of 5 seasons where he threw enough passes to be relatively significant - in this case, 39 attempts) that Rosenfels achieved those numbers.. If you want to just look at the 2 seasons where Rosenfels threw more than 100 passes, then it would be: 1. [1/2], 2. [2/2], 3. [2/2], 4. [2/2].

In those criteria, the numbers I used for thresholds (e.g. TD:INT ratio higher than 1, 60+% completion, 6.3 YPA, 70.0 QB rating) are all either above or right at Fitzpatrick's career best numbers.

Fitzpatrick's best TD:INT ratio was 0.9. His best completion percentage was 59.4%, his best YPA was 6.3 and 70.0 was his best QB rating in a season.

Rosenfels can make dumb mistakes, but Fitzpatrick isn't exactly a game winner. Despite what some people say, we did not have a winning record with him as the starter. And the wins under Fitzpatrick can be directly correlated to the number of turnovers we had. Coincidentally, Fitzpatrick's games as starting QB happened to come at the same time Byrd went on his INT tear.

[more cowbell]

Who are you kidding? He's a heck of a lot better than Fitzpatrick. A quick glance at the stats shows that.

Sage Rosenfels:
http://www.nfl.com/players/sagerosenfels/profile?id=ROS396938

Ryan Fitzpatrick:
http://www.nfl.com/players/ryanfitzpatrick/profile?id=FIT792915


Things Rosenfels has done during a season that Fitzpatrick has not:
1. Thrown for a TD:INT ratio that is higher than 1 [3/5]
2. Had a 60+% completion percentage. [3/5]
3. Thrown for more than 6.3 yards per attempt. [5/5]
4. Had a QB rating better than 70.0 [4/5]

The numbers in the brackets are the number of seasons (out of 5 seasons where he threw enough passes to be relatively significant - in this case, 39 attempts) that Rosenfels achieved those numbers.. If you want to just look at the 2 seasons where Rosenfels threw more than 100 passes, then it would be: 1. [1/2], 2. [2/2], 3. [2/2], 4. [2/2].

In those criteria, the numbers I used for thresholds (e.g. TD:INT ratio higher than 1, 60+% completion, 6.3 YPA, 70.0 QB rating) are all either above or right at Fitzpatrick's career best numbers.

Fitzpatrick's best TD:INT ratio was 0.9. His best completion percentage was 59.4%, his best YPA was 6.3 and 70.0 was his best QB rating in a season.

Rosenfels can make dumb mistakes, but Fitzpatrick isn't exactly a game winner. Despite what some people say, we did not have a winning record with him as the starter. And the wins under Fitzpatrick can be directly correlated to the number of turnovers we had. Coincidentally, Fitzpatrick's games as starting QB happened to come at the same time Byrd went on his INT tear.


I don't disagree that Rosenfels is a much better QB statistically (obviously based on the information you provided) the fact is he is a back up QB and nothing more. While Fitzpatrick isn't a starter, he is a serviceable back up...so I don't understand why everyone is bent out of shape that we didn't bring in a back up QB.

[Mr. Pink]

Why didn't we trade for a journeyman NFL QB to sit on the bench?!?

Oh wait, maybe because we already have one!

Sage Rosenfels wouldn't start here either.

Favre is on his last legs, pretty much literally, and the Vikes didn't even care to keep him around all the while he couldn't beat out Tarvaris Jackson for the backup role and did so much to impress the Vikes they kept 6th round rookie Joe Webb as the third stringer instead.

[YardRat]

I don't want anybody named after an herb on my team.

[Beebe's Kid]

How many times has this guy led the league is passing in the last 5 years? None?

We have very high standards, and unless he has won at least one title, and let the league in 2 major categories, and been to 4/5 Pro Bowls....and was a 1st round pick that we don't have to trade anybody for...we don't want the bum.

We'll just complain about what we have, thank you.

[Night Train]

Rosenfels is a strange talent. He's had some good moments against the Bills, when he was in Miami. He's also had some incredible mental blunders that cost his team games and drives the coaches nuts.

[Luisito23]

Sage Rosenfels sucks!

[Nighthawk]

Sage Rosenfels sucks!

No, Fitz sucks...Rosenfels can play and is a very good backup.

[mikemac2001]

No, Fitz sucks...Rosenfels can play and is a very good backup.


They both suck but sage sucks
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[TedMock]

Was he the backup in Washington when Patrick Ramsay and Danny Wuerfel were there? Or, was that when Brad Johnson were there?

[Mike13]

ahh I'm getting flashbacks to that game when Chris Chambers single handedly beat the Bills.

Sage almost cost us that game.

[HAMMER]

I don't want anybody named after an herb on my team.

What about a player named Herb?