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Stewie
09-21-2010, 05:17 PM
... may now be available... Vick was named the permanent starter in Philly... is he worth a run, or have the resident geniuses decided it's better to keep the losing tradition going

BuffaloBlitz83
09-21-2010, 05:18 PM
Kolb looked awful in opener

Mad Max
09-21-2010, 05:23 PM
... may now be available... Vick was named the permanent starter in Philly... is he worth a run, or have the resident geniuses decided it's better to keep the losing tradition going

I like Kolb. He's under the radar good (like Matt Schaub).

I don't know if the Iggles trade him though, at least not this quickly.

Ingtar33
09-21-2010, 05:32 PM
considering that Vick has only 1 year left on his deal... yeah... Kolb isn't going anywhere.

dplus47
09-21-2010, 05:36 PM
McNabb's backups have always looked really good in limited duty. Miami got burned by this and traded a 2nd for A.J. Feeley, a trainwreck of a QB.

I'm not saying Kolb is a trainwreck or anything, I'm just surprised that Reid, who knows McNabb's backups have performed above their heads, would get rid of McNabb in favor of a guy who may or may not pan out, but I guess he knew he had Vick around if he needed him.

BuffaloBlitz83
09-21-2010, 05:43 PM
VICK will not relinquish the job. He will be NFL comeback player of year

Joe Fo Sho
09-21-2010, 05:46 PM
Why didn't we sign Vick 2 years ago???

TigerJ
09-21-2010, 05:55 PM
It's always going to be about cost and availability.

Albany,n.y.
09-21-2010, 05:58 PM
We didn't sign him because our PETA fans threatened to boycott the team & Ralph was afraid of them. He'd rather lose than be protested against.

Night Train
09-21-2010, 06:00 PM
Why didn't we sign Vick 2 years ago???

Because he was making license plates for $1.20 a day.

BillsWin
09-21-2010, 06:04 PM
I'd take Kolb for a low price. He may be damaged goods.

I seem to remember one young, promising quarterback who received a concussion and then proceeded to throw his career away.

I'll give you a hint, we just benched him.

lightningbolt444
09-21-2010, 06:43 PM
Kolb is EXTREMELY overrated in my opinon. Dont want him

Beebe's Kid
09-21-2010, 06:53 PM
Kolb is EXTREMELY overrated in my opinon. Dont want him

Every name that is ever mentioned to come here is.

So many posters slam the FO, then anytime a name is brought up...."Over-rated, pass."

The same thing was said about Vick when there were talks about him. Now, he looks good, and the message board geniuses say..."Well, there you go, we **** up agian..." when 6 months ago, the story was "He's just not a good QB."

While the PETA thing is just ****ing hilarious, the truth is some people may take issue with the fact that Vick was guilty of committing a pretty heinous crime. Convicted felons have trouble getting jobs now. Some people would rather not compromise their values, for a few wins. That is not a problem when you have no values.

Our FO just needs a few things....

1. The hindsight available to message boards
2. No values, or at least the willingness to compromise those values.
3. They need to not have 31 teams that make trade demands they may not want to meet.
4. They also need the other 31 teams not have the ability to make offers to Free Agents
5. We also need to have 10-15 1st round picks. Then we should be able to limit the "we coulda had" arguments.

See it's really easy, I don't understand why it's so hard.

better days
09-21-2010, 06:55 PM
VICK will not relinquish the job. He will be NFL comeback player of year

Well he played pretty well in two games, if he keeps it up for 14 more he should win it. That is not a sure bet.

YardRat
09-21-2010, 07:05 PM
"Over-rated, pass."

lightningbolt444
09-21-2010, 08:26 PM
Every name that is ever mentioned to come here is.

So many posters slam the FO, then anytime a name is brought up...."Over-rated, pass."

The same thing was said about Vick when there were talks about him. Now, he looks good, and the message board geniuses say..."Well, there you go, we **** up agian..." when 6 months ago, the story was "He's just not a good QB."

While the PETA thing is just ****ing hilarious, the truth is some people may take issue with the fact that Vick was guilty of committing a pretty heinous crime. Convicted felons have trouble getting jobs now. Some people would rather not compromise their values, for a few wins. That is not a problem when you have no values.

Our FO just needs a few things....

1. The hindsight available to message boards
2. No values, or at least the willingness to compromise those values.
3. They need to not have 31 teams that make trade demands they may not want to meet.
4. They also need the other 31 teams not have the ability to make offers to Free Agents
5. We also need to have 10-15 1st round picks. Then we should be able to limit the "we coulda had" arguments.

See it's really easy, I don't understand why it's so hard.

Are these the numbers for the franchise qb you want to lead the bills. Remember the Eagles as a whole are a much more talented unit as a whole as well.

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="yspsctbg" align="middle"> <td class="ysptblhdr" colspan="4" height="18"> Career Stats</td> <td class="yspwhitebg" rowspan="7" width="1" nowrap="nowrap">
</td> <td class="ysptblhdr" colspan="10">Passing</td> <td class="yspwhitebg" rowspan="7" width="1" nowrap="nowrap">
</td> <td class="ysptblhdr" colspan="6">Rushing</td> <td class="yspwhitebg" rowspan="7" width="1" nowrap="nowrap">
</td> <td class="ysptblhdr" colspan="3">Sacked</td> <td class="yspwhitebg" rowspan="7" width="1" nowrap="nowrap">
</td> <td class="ysptblhdr" colspan="3">Fumbles</td></tr> <tr class="ysptblthbody1" align="right" height="18"> <td class="yspdetailttl" align="left"> Season</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" align="left">Team</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">G</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspdetailttl">QBRat</td> <td class="yspdetailttl"> Comp</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Att</td> <td class="yspdetailttl"> Pct</td> <td class="yspdetailttl"> Yds</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Y/G</td> <td class="yspdetailttl"> Y/A</td> <td class="yspdetailttl"> TD
</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Int</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Rush</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Yds</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Y/G</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Avg</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">TD</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Sack</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">YdsL</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Fum</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">FumL</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right" height="16"> <td class="yspscores" align="left"> 2007-08</td> <td class="yspscores" align="left">Philadelphia</td> <td class="yspscores">1</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">0.0</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td class="yspscores">N/A</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td class="yspscores">0.0</td> <td class="yspscores">N/A</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">3</td> <td class="yspscores">-2</td> <td class="yspscores">-2.0</td> <td class="yspscores">-0.7</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">2</td> <td class="yspscores">13</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">1</td> <td class="yspscores">1</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr class="ysprow2" align="right" height="16"> <td class="yspscores" align="left"> 2008-09</td> <td class="yspscores" align="left">Philadelphia</td> <td class="yspscores">6</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">21.8</td> <td class="yspscores">17</td> <td class="yspscores">34</td> <td class="yspscores">50.0</td> <td class="yspscores">144</td> <td class="yspscores">24.0</td> <td class="yspscores">4.2</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td class="yspscores">4</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">13</td> <td class="yspscores">2</td> <td class="yspscores">0.3</td> <td class="yspscores">0.2</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right" height="16"> <td class="yspscores" align="left"> 2009-10</td> <td class="yspscores" align="left">Philadelphia</td> <td class="yspscores">5</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">88.9</td> <td class="yspscores">62</td> <td class="yspscores">96</td> <td class="yspscores">64.6</td> <td class="yspscores">741</td> <td class="yspscores">148.2</td> <td class="yspscores">7.7</td> <td class="yspscores">4</td> <td class="yspscores">3</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">5</td> <td class="yspscores">-1</td> <td class="yspscores">-0.2</td> <td class="yspscores">-0.2</td> <td class="yspscores">1</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">3</td> <td class="yspscores">27</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">2</td> <td class="yspscores">1</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr class="ysprow2" align="right" height="16"> <td class="yspscores" align="left"> 2010-11</td> <td class="yspscores" align="left">Philadelphia</td> <td class="yspscores">1</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">56.3</td> <td class="yspscores">5</td> <td class="yspscores">10</td> <td class="yspscores">50.0</td> <td class="yspscores">24</td> <td class="yspscores">24.0</td> <td class="yspscores">2.4</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td class="yspscores">0.0</td> <td class="yspscores">N/A</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">3</td> <td class="yspscores">17</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">1</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right" height="16"> <td class="yspscores" colspan="2" align="left"> Career</td> <td class="yspscores">13</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">67.8</td> <td class="yspscores"> 84</td> <td class="yspscores"> 140</td> <td class="yspscores"> 60.0</td> <td class="yspscores"> 909</td> <td class="yspscores">69.9</td> <td class="yspscores"> 6.5</td> <td class="yspscores">4</td> <td class="yspscores">7</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">21</td> <td class="yspscores">-1</td> <td class="yspscores">-0.1</td> <td class="yspscores">-0.0</td> <td class="yspscores">1</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">8</td> <td class="yspscores">57</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">4</td> <td class="yspscores">2</td></tr></tbody></table>
Now lets look at Trent

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody> <tr class="yspsctbg" align="middle"> <td class="ysptblhdr" colspan="4" height="18"> Career Stats</td> <td class="yspwhitebg" rowspan="7" width="1" nowrap="nowrap">
</td> <td class="ysptblhdr" colspan="10">Passing</td> <td class="yspwhitebg" rowspan="7" width="1" nowrap="nowrap">
</td> <td class="ysptblhdr" colspan="6">Rushing</td> <td class="yspwhitebg" rowspan="7" width="1" nowrap="nowrap">
</td> <td class="ysptblhdr" colspan="3">Sacked</td> <td class="yspwhitebg" rowspan="7" width="1" nowrap="nowrap">
</td> <td class="ysptblhdr" colspan="3">Fumbles</td></tr> <tr class="ysptblthbody1" align="right" height="18"> <td class="yspdetailttl" align="left"> Season</td> <td class="yspdetailttl" align="left">Team</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">G</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspdetailttl">QBRat</td> <td class="yspdetailttl"> Comp</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Att</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Pct</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Yds</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Y/G</td> <td class="yspdetailttl"> Y/A</td> <td class="yspdetailttl"> TD</td> <td class="yspdetailttl"> Int</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Rush</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Yds</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Y/G</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Avg</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">TD</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Sack</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">YdsL</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspdetailttl">Fum</td> <td class="yspdetailttl">FumL</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right" height="16"> <td class="yspscores" align="left"> 2007-08</td> <td class="yspscores" align="left">Buffalo</td> <td class="yspscores">10</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">70.4</td> <td class="yspscores">151</td> <td class="yspscores">269</td> <td class="yspscores">56.1</td> <td class="yspscores">1630</td> <td class="yspscores">163.0</td> <td class="yspscores">6.1</td> <td class="yspscores">7</td> <td class="yspscores">8</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">14</td> <td class="yspscores">49</td> <td class="yspscores">4.9</td> <td class="yspscores">3.5</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">12</td> <td class="yspscores">105</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">4</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr class="ysprow2" align="right" height="16"> <td class="yspscores" align="left"> 2008-09</td> <td class="yspscores" align="left">Buffalo</td> <td class="yspscores">14</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">85.4</td> <td class="yspscores">245</td> <td class="yspscores">374</td> <td class="yspscores">65.5</td> <td class="yspscores">2699</td> <td class="yspscores">192.8</td> <td class="yspscores">7.2</td> <td class="yspscores">11</td> <td class="yspscores">10</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">36</td> <td class="yspscores">117</td> <td class="yspscores">8.4</td> <td class="yspscores">3.3</td> <td class="yspscores">3</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">23</td> <td class="yspscores">143</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">9</td> <td class="yspscores">5</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right" height="16"> <td class="yspscores" align="left"> 2009-10</td> <td class="yspscores" align="left">Buffalo</td> <td class="yspscores">8</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">73.8</td> <td class="yspscores">110</td> <td class="yspscores">183</td> <td class="yspscores">60.1</td> <td class="yspscores">1169</td> <td class="yspscores">146.1</td> <td class="yspscores">6.4</td> <td class="yspscores">6</td> <td class="yspscores">7</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">14</td> <td class="yspscores">106</td> <td class="yspscores">13.3</td> <td class="yspscores">7.6</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">23</td> <td class="yspscores">139</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">1</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr class="ysprow2" align="right" height="16"> <td class="yspscores" align="left"> 2010-11</td> <td class="yspscores" align="left">Buffalo</td> <td class="yspscores">2</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">58.3</td> <td class="yspscores">29</td> <td class="yspscores">52</td> <td class="yspscores">55.8</td> <td class="yspscores">241</td> <td class="yspscores">120.5</td> <td class="yspscores">4.6</td> <td class="yspscores">1</td> <td class="yspscores">2</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">5</td> <td class="yspscores">24</td> <td class="yspscores">12.0</td> <td class="yspscores">4.8</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">7</td> <td class="yspscores">63</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td class="yspscores">0</td> <td> </td></tr> <tr class="ysprow1" align="right" height="16"> <td class="yspscores" colspan="2" align="left"> Career</td> <td class="yspscores">34</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">76.8</td> <td class="yspscores">535</td> <td class="yspscores"> 878
</td> <td class="yspscores"> 60.9</td> <td class="yspscores"> 5739</td> <td class="yspscores"> 168.8</td> <td class="yspscores">6.5</td> <td class="yspscores">25</td> <td class="yspscores">27</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">69</td> <td class="yspscores"> 296</td> <td class="yspscores">8.7</td> <td class="yspscores">4.3</td> <td class="yspscores">3</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">65</td> <td class="yspscores">450</td> <td> </td> <td class="yspscores">14</td> <td class="yspscores">5</td> <td> </td></tr></tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody> <tr> <td height="7">
</td></tr></tbody></table>
Yep Kolb looks like the qb I want to lead this franchise. I said this when they traded Mcnabb KOLB IS OVERRATED. yards per attempt is the same as Trents