You'd think you'd get it by now.

[Canadian'eh!]

How many times does this organiztion have to kick you in the teeth to get it?

It amazes me how many suckers for punishment there are.

Question: Had it not been for the Early 90's run, would ther even still be a team in Buffalo right now?

They've had about 5 years out of 50 where this team actually mattered. Followed by about 15 years of crap.

I see all these posts about how to fix the Bills. While there may be some actualy good ideas in there, you are wasting your time. The Bills will NOT matter again, until Ralph is dead.

You cannot win being cheap. FA, parity and the importance of having excellent Football minds has made sure of that.

Gailey was an uninspiring choice to coach. Nix was equally unimpressive.

This team is only around now to give the illusion of hope, while keeping costs at an absolute minimum, to maximize profits until Ralph dies and it can be sold off to the highest bidder, who will then move it to greener pastures.

This has been ongoing for the last 10 years. Max out the inheritance for the family. Screw the fans.

There is no dedication to winning. This is not a billionaire owner who is out to win Super Bowls to stroke his ego. This is a for-profit primary source of income.

The fans want a winner. Ralph wants money.

There are a thousand moves the average fan could have made that would have been FAR better than what we have seen. Because our motives would be winning. Not profits.

The writing is on the wall. The team is leaving, and taking our money with it.

This is why i have not bought anything Bills related in several years, and even gave up the one thing I did buy (Sunday Ticket). It's also why I wasn't even upset the past 2 weeks.

I don't believe in my heart that this team cares about it's fans or winning football games, so there's not much to care about.

[justasportsfan]

Re: You'd think you'd get it by now.

I guess thats why we're called fans.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Re: You'd think you'd get it by now.

Imagine if Ralph really wanted to win, he could've dropped the big cash and brought in Cowher. I know Cowher had plenty of excuses but had the price been right he would've come. That alone would attract talent, McNabb would've wanted to be here, and on and on with other real talents and we'd be on our way to recovery.

Like I said, I blame Ralph.

[Pinkerton Security]

Re: You'd think you'd get it by now.

And this is why Toronto, along with the rest of Canada, doesnt deserve an NFL team.

I understand that the Bills suck, but part of being a fan of a team is the HOPE that one day we'll be better, and honestly that's probably why I love being a Bills fan, because I like rooting for the underdog most of the time, and thats what we always are!!

[Canadian'eh!]

Re: You'd think you'd get it by now.

Imagine if Ralph really wanted to win, he could've dropped the big cash and brought in Cowher. I know Cowher had plenty of excuses but had the price been right he would've come. That alone would attract talent, McNabb would've wanted to be here, and on and on with other real talents and we'd be on our way to recovery.

Like I said, I blame Ralph.

Whether or not Ralph was really serious about tryin to bring in a big name coach, or if that was just smoke and mirrors to appease the fans is debatable.

But even if he WAS serious, the reason they all turned him down is because they KNEW he would not spend the money it takes to address the severe shortcomings in the talent on the field. (and probably knew they would not coexisit due to his meddling as well)

No good coach wants to have their image tarnished working for an owner who won't give them the freedom to build a winning team, because they are the ones who shoulder the eventual blame.

Cowher has options. Gailey didn't. If you have a choice at ANY of the 32 jobs out there, the Bills are probably 31, just ahead of Oakland.

Maybe when the team moves to LA in a few years Cowher will be interested.

[Canadian'eh!]

Re: You'd think you'd get it by now.

And this is why Toronto, along with the rest of Canada, doesnt deserve an NFL team.

I understand that the Bills suck, but part of being a fan of a team is the HOPE that one day we'll be better, and honestly that's probably why I love being a Bills fan, because I like rooting for the underdog most of the time, and thats what we always are!!

Buffalo the city doens't deserve a team in the eyes of the NFL. So you can hate on me all you want.

Just remember this when the team is gone, and you are left feeling betrayed.

I can read the writing on the wall is all.

[RockStar36]

Re: You'd think you'd get it by now.

This is a very well put together post. I completely agree.

[justasportsfan]

Re: You'd think you'd get it by now.

Buffalo the city doens't deserve a team in the eyes of the NFL.

I don't know about that. For the most part the entire NFL has stated we are one of the best fans win or lose. So why is it that we don't deserve a team?

We may not deserve a crappy team but to say we don't deserve a team is just ignorant.

[DesertFox24]

Re: You'd think you'd get it by now.

Canada,

Bro sorry you feel the way you do but Nix and Gailey can not overcome the bad drafting and FA signings of TD, Levy, and Brandon in one offseaons and probably not next year.

For me personally I really stopped caring about the outcomes of the games and have decided to try to watch some of our young players and seeing if they are getting any better.

2012 is the first year that I will be pissed if they lose for me.

However, keep calling us losers, and yeah maybe Nix and Gailey are not the genius kids but you can not argue that Nix built the Charges and Gailey has never had a losing season till this one.

[WeAreArthurMoates]

Re: You'd think you'd get it by now.

Buffalo the city doens't deserve a team in the eyes of the NFL. So you can hate on me all you want.

Just remember this when the team is gone, and you are left feeling betrayed.

I can read the writing on the wall is all.

The Bills aint going anywhere, eh. They've been saying it for 50 years.

[G Wolly]

Re: You'd think you'd get it by now.

This thread is a redundant idiot.

We know. What do you expect us to do about it?

[imbondz]

Re: You'd think you'd get it by now.

How many times does this organiztion have to kick you in the teeth to get it?

It amazes me how many suckers for punishment there are.

Question: Had it not been for the Early 90's run, would ther even still be a team in Buffalo right now?

They've had about 5 years out of 50 where this team actually mattered. Followed by about 15 years of crap.

I see all these posts about how to fix the Bills. While there may be some actualy good ideas in there, you are wasting your time. The Bills will NOT matter again, until Ralph is dead.

You cannot win being cheap. FA, parity and the importance of having excellent Football minds has made sure of that.

Gailey was an uninspiring choice to coach. Nix was equally unimpressive.

This team is only around now to give the illusion of hope, while keeping costs at an absolute minimum, to maximize profits until Ralph dies and it can be sold off to the highest bidder, who will then move it to greener pastures.

This has been ongoing for the last 10 years. Max out the inheritance for the family. Screw the fans.

There is no dedication to winning. This is not a billionaire owner who is out to win Super Bowls to stroke his ego. This is a for-profit primary source of income.

The fans want a winner. Ralph wants money.

There are a thousand moves the average fan could have made that would have been FAR better than what we have seen. Because our motives would be winning. Not profits.

The writing is on the wall. The team is leaving, and taking our money with it.

This is why i have not bought anything Bills related in several years, and even gave up the one thing I did buy (Sunday Ticket). It's also why I wasn't even upset the past 2 weeks.

I don't believe in my heart that this team cares about it's fans or winning football games, so there's not much to care about.

I guess I agree to a point. But even Ralph knows that the most money he ever made as an owner was in the early '90s. So why wouldn't he want a championship team.

[better days]

Re: You'd think you'd get it by now.

Buffalo the city doens't deserve a team in the eyes of the NFL. So you can hate on me all you want.

Just remember this when the team is gone, and you are left feeling betrayed.

I can read the writing on the wall is all.

Well, why don't you just go watch the CFL then. You are not even watching the Bills games anyway, so don't let our team bother you.

[Beebe's Kid]

Re: You'd think you'd get it by now.

How many times does this organiztion have to kick you in the teeth to get it?

It amazes me how many suckers for punishment there are.

Question: Had it not been for the Early 90's run, would ther even still be a team in Buffalo right now?

They've had about 5 years out of 50 where this team actually mattered. Followed by about 15 years of crap.

I see all these posts about how to fix the Bills. While there may be some actualy good ideas in there, you are wasting your time. The Bills will NOT matter again, until Ralph is dead.

You cannot win being cheap. FA, parity and the importance of having excellent Football minds has made sure of that.

Gailey was an uninspiring choice to coach. Nix was equally unimpressive.

This team is only around now to give the illusion of hope, while keeping costs at an absolute minimum, to maximize profits until Ralph dies and it can be sold off to the highest bidder, who will then move it to greener pastures.

This has been ongoing for the last 10 years. Max out the inheritance for the family. Screw the fans.

There is no dedication to winning. This is not a billionaire owner who is out to win Super Bowls to stroke his ego. This is a for-profit primary source of income.

The fans want a winner. Ralph wants money.

There are a thousand moves the average fan could have made that would have been FAR better than what we have seen. Because our motives would be winning. Not profits.

The writing is on the wall. The team is leaving, and taking our money with it.

This is why i have not bought anything Bills related in several years, and even gave up the one thing I did buy (Sunday Ticket). It's also why I wasn't even upset the past 2 weeks.

I don't believe in my heart that this team cares about it's fans or winning football games, so there's not much to care about.

Awesome post. Odd that you would write such an emotional, well thought out post, for something you didn't care about. Almost as weird as being a frequent poster in a fan forum...

Good for you for being smart enough to walk away... you think we all would have separated ourselves like you... you didn't spend $300 on Sunday Ticket, well played. Were you not upset because you can find the game online? Or are you trying to tell us, in the fan forum you frequent, with a post that took substantial though and time, how happy you are because you quit and we should join you?

Your post pretty much said it's all a rip off and that the end is near...a sky is falling kind of post. It is also very paranoid that this has been an inside job to take our money and a bunch of other fresh ideas.

You sound like the weight of the world is off of you shoulders!!!! Are you dancing on sunshine!! What do I have to do to obsess over the rip off, and come up with paranoid delusions about how I've been swindled?

Will I be able to frequent the forum, and tell the others how happy I am and tell the others how they should do it too??? The forum where they are talking about games that I didn't watch, and don't care about, because I gave it up?

You'd think I would have gotten this by now...unfortunately I haven't. I'm fortunate you gave it up and came back to save others.

[SeatownBillsFan21]

Re: You'd think you'd get it by now.

This is what ownership wants for us the fan to turn on the team so its easier to relocate sad but very true so dont give in love this team like you would a new born baby and never not support this ****ty team thanks Go Bills