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sauce
09-29-2010, 02:21 PM
First off, I just want to say my wild theory on why the Bills will be leaving Buffalo comes on the eve of the news of high ranking Air Force officals and their claim of extra terrestrial life. So with that said anything is possible...

I really think the Chris Kelsey re-signing is a step in the many moves over the last 5 yrs to disassociate fan interest so the team can be moved.

OBD KNOWS that fans do not want Chris Kelsey signed. Trust me, they have PR guys who tediously monitor their official site message boards, daily, even hourly. Every organization does it to gauge fan interest and to work on quality control of their team, company, or product. What is the ONE move that would anger and dissociate Bills fans the most this season? Yep thats right, The extension of Chris Kelsey. Its a 2 year plan to dismantle the fan hood of the Buffalo Bills. So whats year 2 of the plan? The Lockout, You can bet without a doubt RW and his family are hoping for a lockout. What is the quietest way to move a franchise? When fan interest is at an all time low, and coming off of a 3-13 or worse season (where we will see multiple blacked out home games) fan interest will be lower than it has been since the 1980's. The lockout could not come at a better time for Ralph and his family.

That brings me to my next point the draft. How many head scratching draft picks have we seen over the last 5 years. I know, it dosn't need to be brought up again but Nagata over Whitner, trading up for McCargo. Selecting a RB in the 1st round of the draft. Now some will say that selecting a electric RB in the 1st round should peak fan interest, yes, but it dosn't= wins. Which goes back to my point above, RW and his family desperately need the Bills to tank the season so that a 2012 move is in the works. Anyone knows that if they addressed the line this would be a much better team.

My next point in the plan to move the Bills involves none other than long time hero Jim Kelly. I believe good old Jimbo has been on the books with Ralph and his family to promote this so called "group of people" he has to buy the Bills. Kelly has always been a spotlight me first type figure, and what a better way to boost his reputation and fandom than to associate his name with the purchase of the Bills. How much would you like to bet Jimmy boy has his so called "financial backers" back out at the last second when the team is up for sale. I can see it now, Kelly is a perfect scapegoat, it will never be his fault when his "financial backers" (who operate in the shadows of anonymity mind you, if they even exist) back out last second. When/if that happens how much would you like to bet his fictional "financial backers" will not be exposed. To "protect their reputation". It's a win, win for Kelly its keeps him in the media spotlight and boosts his rep with the fans. Two things he seems enamored with. When the deal to buy the Bills fails, Kelly forever lives in folk lore status as the "Guy who tried to save the small town Bills" from the greedy corporate NFL....

My final point: Why was it so hard to find a HC? Could it be that the HC had to be on board with this plan? Why did guys like Schotty jr and other coordinators turn down the job? I know, I know, its a "lack of talent" but we see coordinators ALL the time take lesser jobs, with untalented rebuilding teams. Ex: Todd Haley, leaving one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL to go to Kansas City Chiefs. Fact is, when a HC job is made available and you have a chance to move up in the coaching ranks of the NFL you take it, because their is always a fall back job with your original position in the NFL. Essentially you are playing with house money. If your team succeeds it's cake, if not you go back to your old coordinator position. The NFL is a good ol' boys club. Look at Mularkey and Gregg Williams...Maybe, just maybe Chan Gailey had an agreement with Ralph Wilson to start Trent Edwards in the first 2 games to assure the Bills would indeed get off to a horrible start, with the assurance that Gailey will keep his job for a yr and get a fresh start with the new franchise.

Is my theory crazy and out there, you bet and it's prob. not true, but hey after reading this today anything is possible......

http://www.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2010100928016


WASHINGTON - Armed with declassified documents and vivid details, a group of former Air Force officers gathered Monday to go public with an assertion they have kept mostly under wraps for decades: that UFOs visited the bases they were stationed at and caused nuclear weapon system to temporarily malfunction.



The group, convened by UFO researcher Robert Hastings, came to the National Press Club in Washington to discuss their individual experiences and to urge a government that tried to ignore and silence them when they came forward years ago to finally come clean.

Hastings said he believes that visitors from outer space are fixating on nuclear weapons because they want to send a message: Disarm before the world destroys itself.

Robert Salas, a former missile launch officer at Malmstrom Air Force Base, said that 10 nuclear missiles were suddenly and inexplicably disabled in March 1967 at the Montana installation after members of his flight security team saw a "large glowing, pulsating red oval-shaped object" about 30-40 feet in diameter hovering over the front gate. When he reported the incident to his superiors the next day, he was told to keep quiet.

"What you have heard today is evidence of a phenomenon. It sounds fantastic, and it is fantastic," said Salas, after he and his fellow officers from other bases in the Western U.S. shared similar accounts. The government, Salas said, is "deliberately withholding the facts, continuously since 1969 and, by doing so, do not allow the people of this country to engage in the decision regarding events that are clearly a national security issue for concern all of us. We're simply asking for the truth."

From 1947 to 1969, the Air Force investigated unidentified flying objects under what was called Project Blue Book. Of a total of 12,618 sightings under the program, 701 remained "unidentified." The military discontinued the program after consulting with scientists and concluding that none of the objects posed a threat to national security or could be identified as "extraterrestrial."

When asked to comment on the new assertions, an Air Force spokeswoman cited a 2005 fact sheet that said: "Since the termination of Project Blue Book, nothing has occurred that would support a resumption of UFO investigations."

Hastings said he has heard of a UFO incident occurring at Malmstrom as recently as 2007.

The declassified documents Hastings presented at Monday's news conference include decades-old government memos detailing reports of sightings of objects in the skies above Alabama, Montana, New Mexico and North Dakota.

"The American people have a right to know the facts," Hastings told reporters. "This is a national security issues but it is (also) a need-to-know issue, a right-to-know issue. Citizens in every country on Earth should be let in on this secret."

Hastings said he has talked to 120 former or retired U.S. military about the presence of UFOs at nuclear weapons sites across the United States and around the globe as early as 1945, when the world entered the nuclear age with the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. For some of the officers who came forward Monday, going public wasn't easy.

Bruce Fenstermacher, a missile combat crew commander at F.E. Warren Air Force Base in Cheyenne, Wyo., was "laughed at" by superiors when he reported a UFO sighting at a launch site that one of his sergeants had passed on to him, he said. He decided to keep his head low after that.

"I was very careful about who I told what," he said. "I was concerned. I don't want to be considered a kook. But I think it's more important to come out and tell our story."

tampabay25690
09-29-2010, 02:23 PM
OMG

The King
09-29-2010, 02:34 PM
:crazy:

Jan Reimers
09-29-2010, 02:38 PM
Ralph has said that upon his passing, his estate will sell the team to the highest bidder. Period.

Why would he have to do all this other stuff?

sauce
09-29-2010, 02:41 PM
Ralph has said that upon his passing, his estate will sell the team to the highest bidder. Period.

Why would he have to do all this other stuff?


Maybe i've watched major league ONE to many times. But how many sketchy moves within the organization is it going to take for people to realize what RW is doing?

justasportsfan
09-29-2010, 02:42 PM
If he wanted to piss off the fans he would have just kept Jauron and save the 24 million

Mr. Pink
09-29-2010, 02:42 PM
If he wanted to piss off the fans he would have just kept Jauron and save the 24 million


Instead he found someone worse!

Jan Reimers
09-29-2010, 02:47 PM
Maybe i've watched major league ONE to many times. But how many sketchy moves within the organization is it going to take for people to realize what RW is doing?
Actually, if he wants to sell to the highest bidder, it would behoove him to make the franchise as successful as possible, to maximize the sale price.

sauce
09-29-2010, 02:59 PM
Actually, if he wants to sell to the highest bidder, it would behoove him to make the franchise as successful as possible, to maximize the sale price.

True, in point, but the reality of it is it is the NFL and you can maximize your sale regardless. It's the league in highest demand, so a franchise being successful is not going to get you THAT much more money. It's not the NHL. It's the big boy league, any owner or would be sports owner would pounce on the idea to own a team, regardless of their record. More so, it's about the market and location of THAT team.

The point i'm trying to make, is that Ralph needs the franchise to LOSE, so that it decreases fan interest thus making it easier to move the team. When the Browns left Cleveland they tore bleacher seats out during the game and launched them on the field. There is alot of fallout/personal threats/etc when moving a franchise....

VeggieMan14
09-29-2010, 02:59 PM
Its the Illuminati man the bills are gods team so they want to shut it down

trapezeus
09-29-2010, 03:06 PM
to sell the team to move, he has to prove the area doesn't support the team. and to his disgust, we still do. we sell out games for bad teams.

i hope the aliens come when the team is for sale, buy it and move it out of the galaxy to jerry jone's surprise.

Jan Reimers
09-29-2010, 03:07 PM
True, in point, but the reality of it is it is the NFL and you can maximize your sale regardless. It's the league in highest demand, so a franchise being successful is not going to get you THAT much more money. It's not the NHL. It's the big boy league, any owner or would be sports owner would pounce on the idea to own a team, regardless of their record. More so, it's about the market and location of THAT team.

The point i'm trying to make, is that Ralph needs the franchise to LOSE, so that it decreases fan interest thus making it easier to move the team. When the Browns left Cleveland they tore bleacher seats out during the game and launched them on the field. There is alot of fallout/personal threats/etc when moving a franchise....
I hear you. And I've said the same thing - that it will be more difficult to move the Bills if the fan base is strong and the stadium is filled for every game.

So, use the Irsay model, where they packed the trucks and left Baltimore in the middle of the night on their way to Indy.

Ingtar33
09-29-2010, 03:27 PM
what i find hilarious, is this chaacter posted a link to some nutty website talking aliens visiting airforce bases asking us to disarm our nuke program...

-and people are ignoring that and taking his "theory" seriously.

this is about as loony a post as i've seen. i'm with the king on this one

:crazy:

sauce
09-29-2010, 03:40 PM
what i find hilarious, is this chaacter posted a link to some nutty website talking aliens visiting airforce bases asking us to disarm our nuke program...

-and people are ignoring that and taking his "theory" seriously.

this is about as loony a post as i've seen. i'm with the king on this one


It's from the Reno Gazette and journal, since when are NEWSPAPER's nutty site's

When people quote an article from the Buffalo news is it "nutty"

I'll wait for your response

I really hate people who comment on something before clicking a link.

Stewie
09-29-2010, 03:43 PM
this makes no sense at all. if he wanted to move the team for the most money possible, he'd want to have a good team with marketable talent, not a bunch of asshats that lose every game.

sauce
09-29-2010, 03:47 PM
^ Post #9 man, reading the whole thread works wonders, try it sometime

Night Train
09-29-2010, 03:48 PM
The Chris Kelsay Extension sounds like a punk band or a bad commercial for blue boner pills.

sauce
09-29-2010, 03:51 PM
The Chris Kelsay Extension sounds like a punk band or a bad commercial for blue boner pills.

LOL, The Chris Kelsay extension haha

Demon
09-29-2010, 03:51 PM
I agree with sauce, it may sound dumb but the responses to him for making no sense, are the ones which make no sense. Why would Ralph just sell? Because he is mega loyal to Buffalo and the Bills. He wants NOTHING more then make the people of Buffalo happy but he's old and has no idea of what he's doing. The people running the show want the fanbase to dislike the Bills, booo at games and stop going, then, they will tell Ralph Wilson that the fans have abandoned the team and the stock of the team is dropping like a rock and he needs to sell right away......... to Los Angeles for a bazillion dollars.

Doesn't make much sense, but neither do the responses or what the Bills are actually doing right now.

Mr. Pink
09-29-2010, 03:55 PM
Technically, the worse he makes the team, the easier it then becomes for another owner to move the team. All moves must be approved by the rest of the owners. If Ralph can get the total franchise value down and fan support down it makes it easier to pass the vote amongst the owners.

sauce
09-29-2010, 03:56 PM
Don't forget the lower the franchise value then the lower the amount of taxes that would have to be paid upon the sale of a franchise. And with new tax laws taking effect at the end of this year anything is possible.

I read that the passing of Steinbrienner this season saved the family millions and millions of dollars bc of the new tax laws that will take into effect

Philagape
09-29-2010, 03:57 PM
"Chris Kelsay gets extension" is a headline that belongs in the Onion.

It's something I'd expect to see on the cover of Weekly World News, so maybe there is something to this alien angle.

trapezeus
09-29-2010, 04:09 PM
there is no way the NFL owners want the price to drop..that means their values are dropping as well.

He just needs to get people to stop coming to the games so that when it goes to a vote, moving the team is a positive as opposed to a PR nightmare.

The value, perceived or real, will be around $800MM. There is no amount of sabotage an owner can do to tank the value more.

I want to start a rally to get the NFL to step in and provide a guarantee they can keep the team here in Buffalo. Their silence has been damning.

sauce
09-29-2010, 04:12 PM
there is no way the NFL owners want the price to drop..that means their values are dropping as well.

He just needs to get people to stop coming to the games so that when it goes to a vote, moving the team is a positive as opposed to a PR nightmare.

The value, perceived or real, will be around $800MM. There is no amount of sabotage an owner can do to tank the value more.

I want to start a rally to get the NFL to step in and provide a guarantee they can keep the team here in Buffalo. Their silence has been damning.

Wasn't there a similar thing in Cincy a few yrs back? Talk's of the NFL stepping in for ownership

Mr. Pink
09-29-2010, 04:14 PM
there is no way the NFL owners want the price to drop..that means their values are dropping as well.

He just needs to get people to stop coming to the games so that when it goes to a vote, moving the team is a positive as opposed to a PR nightmare.

The value, perceived or real, will be around $800MM. There is no amount of sabotage an owner can do to tank the value more.

I want to start a rally to get the NFL to step in and provide a guarantee they can keep the team here in Buffalo. Their silence has been damning.


What happens here to the value of the franchise has no bearing on what happens to the value of the Dallas Cowboys, for an example.

If fan support and franchise value is down, the new owner can go, I paid 900MM "hypothetically" for this franchise and it's only worth 700MM in Buffalo, but if I take them to LA, I'll get my moneys worth. Plus I can get my stadium seats sold and yadda yadda yadda.

imbondz
09-29-2010, 04:15 PM
going on 11 years without a playoff appearance pisses the fan base off plenty.

Philagape
09-29-2010, 04:16 PM
there is no way the NFL owners want the price to drop..that means their values are dropping as well.

He just needs to get people to stop coming to the games so that when it goes to a vote, moving the team is a positive as opposed to a PR nightmare.

The value, perceived or real, will be around $800MM. There is no amount of sabotage an owner can do to tank the value more.

I want to start a rally to get the NFL to step in and provide a guarantee they can keep the team here in Buffalo. Their silence has been damning.

If the NFL let teams leave Cleveland, Baltimore and LA, why on Earth would they want to protect Buffalo?

sauce
09-29-2010, 04:17 PM
going on 11 years without a playoff appearance pisses the fan base off plenty.

Right...But there's a difference between "pissing off" the fanbase and "breaking" the fanbase

imbondz
09-29-2010, 04:17 PM
If the NFL let teams leave Cleveland, Baltimore and LA, why on Earth would they want to protect Buffalo?

exxxxxxactly

YardRat
09-29-2010, 04:45 PM
Don't forget the lower the franchise value then the lower the amount of taxes that would have to be paid upon the sale of a franchise. And with new tax laws taking effect at the end of this year anything is possible.

I read that the passing of Steinbrienner this season saved the family millions and millions of dollars bc of the new tax laws that will take into effect

There is zero estate tax for fiscal 2010...already in effect, and due to be reinstated at the beginning of '11. Ralph can't take advantage of that unless he passes before the end of the year.

cpearl
09-29-2010, 05:29 PM
Sauce,

I need you to get off the sauce.

topher180
09-29-2010, 06:52 PM
The Chris Kelsay Extension sounds like a punk band or a bad commercial for blue boner pills.
LMAO post of the year. Get that man some ZBs, a t-shirt, something!

*patiently waits for photoshop of Viagra bottle, by someone much more talented than me*

Mindbender
09-29-2010, 06:57 PM
http://blog.franciscocosta.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/tin-foil-hat.jpg

Beebe's Kid
09-30-2010, 08:36 AM
First off, I just want to say my wild theory on why the Bills will be leaving Buffalo comes on the eve of the news of high ranking Air Force officals and their claim of extra terrestrial life. So with that said anything is possible...

I really think the Chris Kelsey re-signing is a step in the many moves over the last 5 yrs to disassociate fan interest so the team can be moved.

OBD KNOWS that fans do not want Chris Kelsey signed. Trust me, they have PR guys who tediously monitor their official site message boards, daily, even hourly. Every organization does it to gauge fan interest and to work on quality control of their team, company, or product. What is the ONE move that would anger and dissociate Bills fans the most this season? Yep thats right, The extension of Chris Kelsey. Its a 2 year plan to dismantle the fan hood of the Buffalo Bills. So whats year 2 of the plan? The Lockout, You can bet without a doubt RW and his family are hoping for a lockout. What is the quietest way to move a franchise? When fan interest is at an all time low, and coming off of a 3-13 or worse season (where we will see multiple blacked out home games) fan interest will be lower than it has been since the 1980's. The lockout could not come at a better time for Ralph and his family.



:brilliant::roflmao::horsecrap

It takes about 3 seconds on any message board to gauge fan interest. There are probably 9-10 posters on here that ever have a positive word to say. If that takes hours of tedious scanning...holy ****. If you think that they take the opinions of people that go to message boards as gospel, I don't really know what to tell you.

If you go to games...turn to the person next to you on Sunday, and ask them what they think of any topic here...chances are they will ask you when we got this Spiller guy, and who's Davis. Most fans don't give a ****, they just want to go get hammered in the parking lot and watch a game. I am being a little harsh, but seriously... the people on this board, are a small percentage of the fan base.

Kelsay is the worst that could happen??? Dude, if Chris Kelsay signed a lifetime contract for $10 mil per year, and that was the worst thing that happened to me TODAY...I'd be doing alright.

While it is very possible that the aliens are going to come take the Bills to play on Uranus....the fact that Kelsay signed for a $250K/year raise, so he can end his career a Bill is not the end of the world. The guy has been a class act, and although he didn't rewrite the record books, he has been dependable and played hard. Would I extend his contract? No. Do I know him on the level the organization does? No. Did I let almost every great player that ever played for my team go at the end of their career, to go finish playing in some strange uniform? No, but Ralph sure has. Maybe it was Kelsay, whom he finally decided to handle differently. Staring death in the face can make you do strange things.

Chris Kelsay Gets Extension: Ladies of Buffalo are Running for Their Lives

The Chris Kelsay Extension is a great name for a punk rock band.

elltrain22
09-30-2010, 09:47 AM
There is alot of paralells that one could conclude from that this franchise is, infact, being "Major Leagued". Do I think Ralph is deliberately doing this though? IMO, No I don't. I think he's so old and scenile, he just is making poor decision after poor decision, and I think thats why no FA's or potential HC's are attracted to Buffalo b/c we have a meddling owner who clearly shows a lack of interest in fielding a competitive franchise. Coaches, players, and media-types can see that this franchise a status-quo, joke of a team, that is mis-managed, has holes all over the roster, and just a general feeling of doom and gloom.