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X-Era
10-02-2010, 07:06 PM
Luck vs. #4 Oregon... big game for #9 Stanford

Locker vs. USC

Both are on now... check them out.

wmoz11
10-02-2010, 07:07 PM
I still like Locker - I don't care what happened against Nebraska. It's only his second year in a pro-style system. I think Luck is the guy right now, but it's definitely up in the air. Should be some good football.

That being said...

Let's...Go...P S U!!!

X-Era
10-02-2010, 07:10 PM
I still like Locker - I don't care what happened against Nebraska. It's only his second year in a pro-style system. I think Luck is the guy right now, but it's definitely up in the air. Should be some good football.

That being said...

Let's...Go...P S U!!!
Locker has made questionable plays in many games from both last year and this year. He has all the talent, but he needs to show he can be the field general and control the offense through solid decision making. I hope for him, he can use this big game against USC as a chance to turn it around and start answering the nagging question on him... lets see what happens.

Luck simply needs to continue to show his great, methodical decision making where he controls the offense efficiently and with solid poise.

mrbojanglezs
10-02-2010, 07:32 PM
what channel is the locker game on

X-Era
10-02-2010, 07:38 PM
Ive got it on ESPN2.

This just in (nothing new about it), Luck is a stud (running TD and throwing TD already).

He will declare and he will be the #1 pick.

mrbojanglezs
10-02-2010, 07:41 PM
Ive got it on ESPN2.

This just in (nothing new about it), Luck is a stud (running TD and throwing TD already).

He will declare and he will be the #1 pick.

ya i got stanford on espn 2 as well but I asked what channel the locker game is on do you know?

X-Era
10-02-2010, 07:43 PM
ya i got stanford on espn 2 as well but I asked what channel the locker game is on do you know?

Thats what Im saying... Wash USC is on ESPN2, Stan Ore is on ESNa (ESPN alternate)

DrGraves
10-02-2010, 07:43 PM
I have to ****ing watch USC and washington?!?!!? wtf why the hell isnt the oregon vs stanford game on?!?!?

X-Era
10-02-2010, 07:44 PM
I have to ****ing watch USC and washington?!?!!? wtf why the hell isnt the oregon vs stanford game on?!?!?

God bless DirectTV...

X-Era
10-02-2010, 07:45 PM
Locker is moving the chains but more with his legs than his passing so far... needs to show me he can pick apart a D through the air.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 07:48 PM
Stanford up 21-3... Oregon keeps turning it over.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 07:55 PM
Locker, 50 yd TD throw... nice looking throw.

mrbojanglezs
10-02-2010, 07:56 PM
locker stream for those who have the stanford game:


http://www.veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4ca77af60fafd

Buffalogic
10-02-2010, 07:56 PM
omg i want the ducks qb!!! lolol

mrbojanglezs
10-02-2010, 07:56 PM
Locker, 50 yd TD throw... nice looking throw.

ya wide open, id rather see threading the needle type throws

Canadian'eh!
10-02-2010, 08:00 PM
Luck is impressing me now. He is VERY smart.

The only thing that bothers me is that is arm isn't overly strong and there is a bit of a flutter in his spiral. But he reads the D like a seasoned Pro and makes quick reads.

Liking what I see.

djjimkelly
10-02-2010, 08:09 PM
jake locker is a 4.4 speed guy wtf wow

X-Era
10-02-2010, 08:11 PM
jake locker is a 4.4 speed guy wtf wow

Yeah, and thats Locker in a nutshell, all the talent in the world and never seems to capitalize on it... long run by him that should have gone for a TD and instead its poked out of his arms and goes for a touchback... USC ball.

hydro014
10-02-2010, 08:12 PM
If you have time warner with HD. The Wash / USC game is on 727 in HD. The Oregon / Stanford is on 27 NON HD

Ed
10-02-2010, 08:15 PM
I've got Luck on abc and Locker on ESPN 2. Luck looks like the real deal.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 08:17 PM
Thats the type of throw I want to see from Luck... nice looking intermediate to deep throw... show me a deep out and I will be convinced of his arm.

Ed
10-02-2010, 08:18 PM
From the Stanford game commentator, "Who's the worst team in the NFL? Help is on the way!"

Bangarang
10-02-2010, 08:19 PM
Thats the type of throw I want to see from Luck... nice looking intermediate to deep throw... show me a deep out and I will be convinced of his arm.

I hear ya. I want to see Luck air out so I know he can throw a bomb down field.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 08:21 PM
From the Stanford game commentator, "Who's the worst team in the NFL? Help is on the way!"Its us, but Cleveland has a harder schedule... pray for Delhomme to get healthy and step up.

mrbojanglezs
10-02-2010, 08:34 PM
Its us, but Cleveland has a harder schedule... pray for Delhomme to get healthy and step up.

no we are screwed, cleveland is guaranteed to sign the best qb prospect since peyton, cleveland will win 1 or 2 games tops, we need to pray that cleveland beats us

cleveland's schedule is so nasty

X-Era
10-02-2010, 08:36 PM
no we are screwed, cleveland is guaranteed to sign the best qb prospect since peyton, cleveland will win 1 or 2 games tops, we need to pray that cleveland beats us

cleveland's schedule is so nasty

I hope that Delhomme can win a few. And, theres a slim chance that Clev goes another route since they have McCoy... OK, Im grasping at straws.

mrbojanglezs
10-02-2010, 08:42 PM
I hope that Delhomme can win a few. And, theres a slim chance that Clev goes another route since they have McCoy... OK, Im grasping at straws.

thats bull**** and you know it, they almost cut mccoy this year

X-Era
10-02-2010, 08:43 PM
thats bull**** and you know it, they almost cut mccoy this year OK, Im grasping at straws.

kingJofNYC
10-02-2010, 08:45 PM
It's throws like the last one that make me question Luck's ability.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 09:16 PM
12:10, 3rd Qtr, There is Lucks long ball. Nice spiral, on target. But, its not on a rope by any means. Im not that worried about him being able to make the throws.

Arctic Wild Man
10-02-2010, 09:16 PM
Luck is not a #1 pick. Watch his throws...anything beyond 20 yards floats and his receivers have to wait for the ball to get there. That play with 30 something seconds left in the half that was almost picked off shows that plain as day.

Give me Mallett, he may be raw but he has an NFL arm. Luck is a system QB that will struggle in the NFL if he plays in a place like Buffalo. We need a gunslinger like Kelly or a Vick type scrambler that has defenders checking coverage in case the guy takes off running.

Don't be infatuated with the hype over Luck. He's not a QB we need in B'lo.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 09:20 PM
Luck is not a #1 pick. Watch his throws...anything beyond 20 yards floats and his receivers have to wait for the ball to get there. That play with 30 something seconds left in the half that was almost picked off shows that plain as day.

Give me Mallett, he may be raw but he has an NFL arm. Luck is a system QB that will struggle in the NFL if he plays in a place like Buffalo. We need a gunslinger like Kelly or a Vick type scrambler that has defenders checking coverage in case the guy takes off running.

Don't be infatuated with the hype over Luck. He's not a QB we need in B'lo.
Totally disagree.

Arm strength is a small part of the situation... remember Losman? Plenty of guys are very successful in the NFL without huge arms... Brady, Matt Ryan, Drew Brees just to name a few.

I will take decision making, poise, and an ability to command an offense over arm strength any day.

wmoz11
10-02-2010, 09:23 PM
Mallett is Ryan Leaf 2.0.

Luck or Locker is where we want to be.

sven233
10-02-2010, 09:30 PM
Mallett is Ryan Leaf 2.0.

Luck or Locker is where we want to be.

Not so sure I agree there. Every time I watch Mallett, I see Drew Bledsoe. DB in his prime was a great QB. If Mallett can be that, I think whoever gets him will be more than happy.

Personally, I like all 3 and I think all of them will be successful in the NFL. We would be lucky to have any one of the 3 as all 3 are better than what we have had here in the last 13 years.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 09:31 PM
Mallett is Ryan Leaf 2.0.

Luck or Locker is where we want to be.Dont necessarily agree with that either. Mallett needs to show teams in the offseason that he has a quality character. And, to me, he's more sound coming out than Leaf was by a lot.

kingJofNYC
10-02-2010, 09:32 PM
Luck is not a #1 pick. Watch his throws...anything beyond 20 yards floats and his receivers have to wait for the ball to get there. That play with 30 something seconds left in the half that was almost picked off shows that plain as day.

Give me Mallett, he may be raw but he has an NFL arm. Luck is a system QB that will struggle in the NFL if he plays in a place like Buffalo. We need a gunslinger like Kelly or a Vick type scrambler that has defenders checking coverage in case the guy takes off running.

Don't be infatuated with the hype over Luck. He's not a QB we need in B'lo.

Yeah, I don't like his arm strength at all. Too many balls tend to float, you saw it in the ND game, you see it tonight.

Mallett has a cannon, but his footwork, decision making, and accuracy are all question marks.

If I were either QB, I'd stay another year and work on my game. Both need work.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 09:34 PM
At this point, out of the top 3, Locker is the guy I want the least. Just seems to not be able to get the most out of his talent.

mrbojanglezs
10-02-2010, 09:39 PM
At this point, out of the top 3, Locker is the guy I want the least. Just seems to not be able to get the most out of his talent.

i think locker could drop to the 20-40 range

X-Era
10-02-2010, 09:42 PM
i think locker could drop to the 20-40 rangeAt this point, thats the range I see him in.

To be honest, if it was our pick and it was the 1st pick in the 2nd round, and Locker was there, I would take Blaine Gabbert over him.

kingJofNYC
10-02-2010, 09:44 PM
That throw was straight garbage.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 09:44 PM
That said, Locker is a tough guy, I cant believe how much he runs and takes hits.

tampabay25690
10-02-2010, 09:47 PM
i think locker could drop to the 20-40 range

You put Locker on a top 25 team he is #1 pick by far....

YardRat
10-02-2010, 09:48 PM
I've got ND/BC on ABC, Wash/USC on ESPN2, and nothing on ESPNa, with DirecTV :mad:

tampabay25690
10-02-2010, 09:48 PM
Both QB's will be drafted in the 1st round.
Luck seems to be the #1 guy as of right now.
I like what I see he reminds me a little of a young Peyton Manning

X-Era
10-02-2010, 09:49 PM
You put Locker on a top 25 team he is #1 pick by far....If he showed me 20% better decision making, I would be on board. But, he still pulls way too many throws down and tries to run it or simply throws it up.

He is having a nice game against USC though so far.

kingJofNYC
10-02-2010, 09:49 PM
I've got ND/BC on ABC, Wash/USC on ESPN2, and nothing on ESPNa, with DirecTV :mad:

I'm watching on ESPN3.com

X-Era
10-02-2010, 09:50 PM
I've got ND/BC on ABC, Wash/USC on ESPN2, and nothing on ESPNa, with DirecTV :mad:
Sucks man, the commentators are talking about the coaches getting in a fight possibly. OK, that was wishful thinking... but they do seem to hate each other.

tampabay25690
10-02-2010, 09:53 PM
If he showed me 20% better decision making, I would be on board. But, he still pulls way too many throws down and tries to run it or simply throws it up.

He is having a nice game against USC though so far.

He has to the team he is on sucks

X-Era
10-02-2010, 09:55 PM
He has to the team he is on sucks
I know the team sucks and we have to weigh that. But, I dont get the feel from him that he has enough ability to command an offense, read a defense, and consistently move the ball.

I wont be unhappy if we get him, but Id rather have Luck, Mallett, or even Gabbert.

tampabay25690
10-02-2010, 09:56 PM
I know the team sucks and we have to weigh that. But, I dont get the feel from him that he has enough ability to command an offense, read a defense, and consistently move the ball.

cool
The guy will be a top pick either way.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 09:57 PM
cool
The guy will be a top pick either way.Id agree. But I can see a drop to teh early 2nd. If he can get back on the field and win this game, he could move up... he has played pretty well tonight.

kingJofNYC
10-02-2010, 09:59 PM
Down 14, can't rely on the run, especially when your D is being shredded. At least we get more of a glimpse.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:02 PM
Watch Luck take over and win this game. What a topper that would be.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:04 PM
A few plays Ive caught Luck leaving guys wide open including that 12:30, 4TH QTR, play.

BILLSROCK1212
10-02-2010, 10:06 PM
ryan mallet looks good too idk why he isn't in the discussion...had he closed out against alabama he would probably be number 1

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:06 PM
Locker just blew a huge 4th and 8 on USC's 30 down 29-31... 6 minutes left in the game.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:08 PM
ryan mallet looks good too idk why he isn't in the discussion...had he closed out against alabama he would probably be number 1To me, he has made a few critical mental mistakes. And, he comes off like he has an atittude. I cant confirm that, I will wait to hear what teams think in interviews.

kingJofNYC
10-02-2010, 10:12 PM
They all need work. Honestly, Fitz is going to start next season regardless of what we do in the draft. These kids would get killed behind our OL.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:14 PM
2:34 left, USC misses the FG, USC 31- Wash- 29.

Nighthawk
10-02-2010, 10:14 PM
They all need work. Honestly, Fitz is going to start next season regardless of what we do in the draft. These kids would get killed behind our OL.

Bull****...I'm so tired of hearing this. If they make good decisions, then the QB will be alright.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:14 PM
They all need work. Honestly, Fitz is going to start next season regardless of what we do in the draft. These kids would get killed behind our OL.I will forget that you said this.

hydro014
10-02-2010, 10:15 PM
Locker just blew a huge 4th and 8 on USC's 30 down 29-31... 6 minutes left in the game.

I don't think it was Lockers fault. Had three drops on the last series. He is my least favorite of the three but his WR have at least 5-8 drops today.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:17 PM
Locker fumble that was recovered by Wash.

kingJofNYC
10-02-2010, 10:17 PM
Bull****...I'm so tired of hearing this. If they make good decisions, then the QB will be alright.

They're making bad decisions, have questionable mechanics, at the collegiate level. Are they magically going to erase their current flaws in less than a year? I highly doubt it. They need more reps before hitting the big show. If they draft one he's going to sit.


I will forget that you said this.

Locker had 3+ seconds to throw that 4th down ball inside the ten, and still couldn't put it on the money, or find a receiver sooner.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:18 PM
His receivers suck.

wmoz11
10-02-2010, 10:18 PM
Locker is looking good. The talent around him is subpar.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:19 PM
Great presence on that Locker throw for a 1st down on a 4th down.

Arctic Wild Man
10-02-2010, 10:19 PM
A few plays Ive caught Luck leaving guys wide open including that 12:30, 4TH QTR, play.

The pressure for the comeback must be getting to him. He's missing opportunities that he shouldn't be. He's rushing reads and his ball is floating more and more.

So far this season, none of the big name QB's are screaming "take me".

There still is a lot of football left in the season but from what little I've seen, I still think Mallett has the most upside. No doubt he needs some work. We can revisit this discussion come January.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:21 PM
Locker 1st down, down 2 points, on USC's 20.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:23 PM
3 seconds left... kicker for Wash comes on.

Ferrygoat
10-02-2010, 10:23 PM
Luck hasn't impressed me tonight. A lot of checkdowns and short routes to his TE's and the only deep balls he has completed his WR'S have been wide open.

Mad Max
10-02-2010, 10:23 PM
I will forget that you said this.

While I think our OL is going to come around, I agree with him in that we need to start the season with Fitzy. We need to work the new QB (whomever he may be) into the starting lineup slowly.

hydro014
10-02-2010, 10:24 PM
So far this season, none of the big name QB's are screaming "take me".

There still is a lot of football left in the season but from what little I've seen, I still think Mallett has the most upside. No doubt he needs some work. We can revisit this discussion come January.


I agree 100%. The season is far from over. But man, the first 3 quarters from Mallett against Alabama was special. Should be an interesting year

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:26 PM
Lockers leadership is impressing me... at worst, we have options if we end up top 5 but not with the 1st pick.

wmoz11
10-02-2010, 10:26 PM
Locker is the most physically gifted QB I've seen this season. Now, is he the best pro prospect? Probably not, but I'm still sticking by him. I think Locker will be the best pro QB out of Luck, Mallett, Ponder, Devlin, etc.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:26 PM
Wash win!!!!!!!

tampabay25690
10-02-2010, 10:27 PM
ryan mallet looks good too idk why he isn't in the discussion...had he closed out against alabama he would probably be number 1

He is......

Luck, Mallet, and Locker will all be drafted in the 1st round.
All 3 are different QB'S

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:27 PM
Luck is down by 14 with 2:56 left.

Mad Max
10-02-2010, 10:27 PM
Washington just beat USC at USC..

Locker had a very good game, don't sleep on the guy he's not going to fade.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:27 PM
2:45, 4th qtr, thats a deep throw... beautiful.

tampabay25690
10-02-2010, 10:27 PM
Locker is the most physically gifted QB I've seen this season. Now, is he the best pro prospect? Probably not, but I'm still sticking by him. I think Locker will be the best pro QB out of Luck, Mallett, Ponder, Devlin, etc.

Im with you on that.
Would go with Luck next after Locker.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:28 PM
Washington just beat USC at USC..

Locker had a very good game, don't sleep on the guy he's not going to fade.Big step up, IMO.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:28 PM
Luck, INT in the endzone to lose the game...

Ferrygoat
10-02-2010, 10:28 PM
2:45, 4th qtr, thats a deep throw... beautiful.

nice throw, WR wide open....just picked in the endzone

tampabay25690
10-02-2010, 10:29 PM
I LUV seeing SCUMBAG kiffin lose............

hydro014
10-02-2010, 10:29 PM
Luck hasn't impressed me tonight. A lot of checkdowns and short routes to his TE's and the only deep balls he has completed his WR'S have been wide open.

He didn't wow me tonight. No doubt one of the top 3 QB's but not sure he's quite ready for the NFL. Still early.

Locker I thought was much much better than 2 weeks ago but still very raw, a ton of roll outs and designed runs, man does he get his ass kicked each week.

wmoz11
10-02-2010, 10:30 PM
No one that is objectively evaluating QBs right now should discount Locker. He had a horrible game against Nebraska, but if we're evaluating talent and intangibles, Locker should still remain very close to the top of the board.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:30 PM
If anything, Luck just lost the "lock" for being the top pick. And for a team that may not be able to get it, this was a good weekend for the Bills... we have options folks.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:32 PM
No one that is objectively evaluating QBs right now should discount Locker. He had a horrible game against Nebraska, but if we're evaluating talent and intangibles, Locker should still remain very close to the top of the board.If your not doing this objectively, you have no business doing it at all... thats the most critical part of the whole thing IMO.

wmoz11
10-02-2010, 10:32 PM
"Legendary" - Sarkasian

That's how he described JL. He's my favorite college player since Poz. He's got the winners ilk and talent to boot.

wmoz11
10-02-2010, 10:33 PM
If your not doing this objectively, you have no business doing it at all... thats the most critical part of the whole thing IMO.

Agreed - and it's still early. A lot of people have written Locker off as a pro prospect from one game, which, IMO, is a HUGE error.

tampabay25690
10-02-2010, 10:35 PM
If anything, Luck just lost the "lock" for being the top pick. And for a team that may not be able to get it, this was a good weekend for the Bills... we have options folks.

X come on it was 1 game....
You are a smart guy just becasue his 2nd half performance that means nothing.
It could be forgotten later in the season.
Luck still could be the guy drafted 1st....
Im still on Locker the guy has all the ability ANY team would want....

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:36 PM
Agreed - and it's still early. A lot of people have written Locker off as a pro prospect from one game, which, IMO, is a HUGE error.Written off? Is there not 7 rounds? Kurt Warner? Tom Brady?

This isn't black and white. Its probability of success... thats a percentage.

Arctic Wild Man
10-02-2010, 10:38 PM
I'll give all three the rest of the season to impress me. All three have had a chance to show they deserve to be the 1st pick and all three so far have failed when it counted. Not saying they can't be NFL QB's, but at least up to now, they have all stumbled in the big game.

If we had to pick tomorrow this is what I see the order being:

Locker/Mallett (draw, Locker's bad game is erased after the USC game, Mallett looked great in the first 3 quarters against "Bama but had a miserable 4th. Toss up between the two right now.)

Luck (this game hurt him way more than it helped him)

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:39 PM
X come on it was 1 game....
You are a smart guy just becasue his 2nd half performance that means nothing.
It could be forgotten later in the season.
Luck still could be the guy drafted 1st....
I'm still on Locker the guy has all the ability ANY team would want....It is one game, I agree. Cant a guy get his drink on without people hanging on his every word? :lol:

He's still my favorite... I'm just praying that we could land him out of the top pick somehow.

If anything, I feel better about us having more than one guy worthy of a top 10 pick.

Ferrygoat
10-02-2010, 10:40 PM
Luck just doesnt have the arm strength like Mallett and Locker and If im correct Nix said he wants a QB with a strong arm....

Mad Max
10-02-2010, 10:42 PM
Erin Andrews,,,what a douchette.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:42 PM
Luck just doesnt have the arm strength like Mallett and Locker and If im correct Nix said he wants a QB with a strong arm....He did, and Luck doesnt, but Nix knows that arm strength cant make up for having a cement block above the shoulders. That said, Gabbert has Malletts arm, no questions on his attitude and makes good decisions most of the time... dont sleep on him.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:43 PM
Erin Andrews,,,what a douchette.Ever since seeing here naked in her hotel room... oops did I admit that, she has annoyed me more and more. And to be honest, she's not that hot up close.

tampabay25690
10-02-2010, 10:44 PM
It is one game, I agree. Cant a guy get his drink on without people hanging on his every word? :lol:

He's still my favorite... I'm just praying that we could land him out of the top pick somehow.

If anything, I feel better about us having more than one guy worthy of a top 10 pick.

I agree there.
What QB do you think Chan would want to pick for his guy????
Honestly answer that???

mrbojanglezs
10-02-2010, 10:48 PM
Ever since seeing here naked in her hotel room... oops did I admit that, she has annoyed me more and more. And to be honest, she's not that hot up close.

i never got the love for erin sure she has a pretty face but she's a rail

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:49 PM
I agree there.
What QB do you think Chan would want to pick for his guy????
Honestly answer that???
I love that you asked that.

If, and only if, Mallett comes out clean in his interviews with no punk attitude or character issues of any kind, I honeslty feel Mallett will be the guy. And that is for three reasons:

1) I think our chances of having the top pick, which will likely be Luck, are very slim actually.

2) We want a guy with big arm strength. Mallett has the better strength vs. Locker.

3) Mallett has worked his way into a top 15 pick... I dont worry that much about a late pick against Bama.

Mallett has to simply show teams he is the type of person and leader that you want in the off-season and he could easily be our pick.

Mad Max
10-02-2010, 10:49 PM
Ever since seeing here naked in her hotel room... oops did I admit that, she has annoyed me more and more. And to be honest, she's not that hot up close.

haha,

I pity the poor fool that ends up slipping a ring on her finger. She's ALWAYS been a stuck up , whiny, twot, ever since her early days working for the Atlanta Braves.

Arctic Wild Man
10-02-2010, 10:50 PM
I agree there.
What QB do you think Chan would want to pick for his guy????
Honestly answer that???

My guess is that Chan knows the season is young and the #1 QB SHOULD emerge by the end.

Mallett has the arm he wants but Locker has the "it" factor that only comes around every so often.

No matter who he picks, half the fan base will be upset the other guy wasn't picked.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:51 PM
My guess is that Chan knows the season is young and the #1 QB SHOULD emerge by the end.

Mallett has the arm he wants but Locker has the "it" factor that only comes around every so often.

No matter who he picks, half the fan base will be upset the other guy wasn't picked.

Its worse, a significant portion would have wanted another position.

tampabay25690
10-02-2010, 10:51 PM
I love that you asked that.

If, and only if, Mallett comes out clean in his interviews with no punk attitude or character issues of any kind, I honeslty feel Mallett will be the guy. And that is for three reasons:

1) I think our chances of having the top pick, which will likely be Luck, are very slim actually.

2) We want a guy with big arm strength. Mallett has the better strength vs. Locker.

3) Mallett has worked his way into a top 15 pick... I dont worry that much about a late pick against Bama.

Mallett has to simply show teams he is the type of person and leader that you want in the off-season and he could easily be our pick.

Now I think Locker will be that type of guy for Chan.

I guess we will see.

Honestly I won't be upset as long as we get LUCK, LOCKER, or MALLET......

Arctic Wild Man
10-02-2010, 10:53 PM
I love that you asked that.

If, and only if, Mallett comes out clean in his interviews with no punk attitude or character issues of any kind, I honeslty feel Mallett will be the guy. And that is for three reasons:

1) I think our chances of having the top pick, which will likely be Luck, are very slim actually.

2) We want a guy with big arm strength. Mallett has the better strength vs. Locker.

3) Mallett has worked his way into a top 15 pick... I dont worry that much about a late pick against Bama.

Mallett has to simply show teams he is the type of person and leader that you want in the off-season and he could easily be our pick.


As long as Mallett doesn't tank, I agree. He sure seems to be the kind of QB that the Bills need (Jimm Kelly style).

Mad Max
10-02-2010, 10:53 PM
My guess is that Chan knows the season is young and the #1 QB SHOULD emerge by the end.

Mallett has the arm he wants but Locker has the "it" factor that only comes around every so often.

No matter who he picks, half the fan base will be upset the other guy wasn't picked.

You mean two thirds of the fan base. We got three horses in this race.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 10:54 PM
Now I think Locker will be that type of guy for Chan.

I guess we will see.

Honestly I won't be upset as long as we get LUCK, LOCKER, or MALLET......

I still want to see more from Locker, but this would be a great start to the Bills 2011 draft. Still, Gabbert has some big games against Neb and Ok coming up in a few weeks... give him a look, I like his play a lot... He a scrapper with as big or even bigger an arm than Mallett.

But yes, we would be in decent shape with any of these guys IMO. I'm thinking of posting a very very early look at who I would like round by round.

Arctic Wild Man
10-02-2010, 10:55 PM
You mean two thirds of the fan base. We got three horses in this race.

LOL!! True, but after the game just on TV any fan who thinks Luck has the arm we need is delusional.

Arctic Wild Man
10-02-2010, 10:57 PM
I still want to see more from Locker, but this would be a great start to the Bills 2011 draft. Still, Gabbert has some big games against Neb and Ok coming up in a few weeks... give him a look, I like his play a lot... He a scrapper with as big or even bigger an arm than Mallett.

But yes, we would be in decent shape with any of these guys IMO. I'm thinking of posting a very very early look at who I would like round by round.

Is Gabbert on TV next week? You've got me intrigued with the kid and I want to see him play.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 11:02 PM
Is Gabbert on TV next week? You've got me intrigued with the kid and I want to see him play.http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/142/missouri-tigers

Mad Max
10-02-2010, 11:02 PM
I still want to see more from Locker, but this would be a great start to the Bills 2011 draft. Still, Gabbert has some big games against Neb and Ok coming up in a few weeks... give him a look, I like his play a lot... He a scrapper with as big or even bigger an arm than Mallett.

But yes, we would be in decent shape with any of these guys IMO. I'm thinking of posting a very very early look at who I would like round by round.

You've been pimpin' your boy Gabbert pretty hard, got me curious.

Let us know when one of his games are upcoming.

I think Mallett might be a 10 cent head kind of guy...listen to him speak, after you get past his wiggerisms do you hear the voice of a man you want leading your team? Hint he sounds much more like JP than Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Ryan...

So if Gabbert has the head to go with the arm....

Arctic Wild Man
10-02-2010, 11:09 PM
http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/142/missouri-tigers


Cool, we'll have a chance to see him with Oklahoma and Nebraska coming up.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 11:13 PM
Heres my write up so far:

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?p=3290932#post3290932

Heres a vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbIspyAIfOs

He's not a complete package guys and some may be turned off by him running a spread. But, I like his poise, fiery play, and strong arm. He's just a play-maker... he makes plays when it seems like he has no chance. I think he could go in the early 2nd if he declares.

Commissioner
10-02-2010, 11:33 PM
I like Gabbert... i remember seeing a workout when he was coming out of high school and remember being amazed by how hard he threw. But i really think it would benefit him draft wise to stay for his senior year.

X-Era
10-02-2010, 11:39 PM
I like Gabbert... i remember seeing a workout when he was coming out of high school and remember being amazed by how hard he threw. But i really think it would benefit him draft wise to stay for his senior year.Probably would. Why settle for a early 2nd round grade when you could be a 1st or even high 1st if you wait. We will juts have to see how it pans out.

SeatownBillsFan21
10-03-2010, 12:06 AM
"Legendary" - Sarkasian

That's how he described JL. He's my favorite college player since Poz. He's got the winners ilk and talent to boot.
That was awesome i love Shark what a quote on Locker Legendary perfect. GO DAWGS!!!!We needed that tonight but man does our D suck balls cant stop the run at all.

wmoz11
10-03-2010, 12:15 AM
I want Luck, but I'm perfectly willing to wait for Locker to develop if we draft him.

Hell, we've waited 10 years, what's another 2-3?

bflojohn
10-03-2010, 01:05 AM
I would have to say that my feelings are that Chan Gailey opts for a Jake Locker because he'll fall in love with the athletic ability. He has the arm for Buffalo weather, and his escapability will allow for better results on third downs. He is a gamer, having 110 yards rushing tonight, but he will become a student of the game under Gailey, IMO!! This QB will undoubtedly be the most gifted Chan Gailey has ever had, and he will want to work with him going forward. Besides, in my eyes he is a QB Nix and Gailey will know Buffalo fans will embrace from the start!!

Michael82
10-03-2010, 01:29 AM
Anyone else worried that Luck is another Edwards? We don't need another captain checkdown. His arm strength scares me. I'm still on the Mallett bandwagon. But tonight made me reconsider Locker too. He might be just what we need behind this OL.

wmoz11
10-03-2010, 02:06 AM
Luck is 100x the QB Edwards was in college. Now, there are still some concerns, just like there will be with anyone, but he looks like a sure thing right now.

**** Mallett *cough Ryan Leaf cough*

Locker is up there with Luck, too, IMO.

Prov401
10-03-2010, 02:18 AM
Anyone else worried that Luck is another Edwards? We don't need another captain checkdown. His arm strength scares me. I'm still on the Mallett bandwagon. But tonight made me reconsider Locker too. He might be just what we need behind this OL.

I 100000000000% agree.

Luck has not impressed me the last two weeks what-so-ever. His arm strength is Edwards'esque, and he made two very bad decisions tonight. I understand people are human, blah blah, but some of these articles I've read about him, comparing him to Peyton Manning are just rediculous. His delivery is slow at times, and he stares down his receivers. I think he's a poor man's Joe Flacco, which is NOT worth the number 1 overall pick.

I'm with you on the Mallett bandwagon. A big, strong, athletic QB who has shown steady improvement this season. He flat out ZIPS the ball, and is passionate about the game. He may need some more polishing for sure, but as of now, I'm all for Ryan Mallett.

Extremebillsfan247
10-03-2010, 02:27 AM
Didn't see Mallet today, but did catch both Stanford vs Oregon, and Washington vs USC. Luck even in a bad game for Stanford still played well I thought. Locker was impressive even if he didn't have receivers who just had problems catching a football. He had very little help, got smacked around pretty good, and still managed to march his team down the field to give them the opportunity to win the football game. That was a textbook road victory. Washington vs USC was probably the funnest game to watch today. JMO

wmoz11
10-03-2010, 02:32 AM
Mallett = statue. The Bills will draft him, though. Guaranteed.

Johnny Bugmenot
10-03-2010, 06:21 AM
Anyone else worried that Luck is another Edwards? We don't need another captain checkdown. His arm strength scares me. I'm still on the Mallett bandwagon. But tonight made me reconsider Locker too. He might be just what we need behind this OL.
You're not alone. Call it a hunch, but I believe Mallett is going to be the better QB in this league. I don't get the love affair with Luck-- I mean, for crying out loud, the guy needed surgery on his throwing hand in the offseason and nobody seemed to think it would even be a question. That, to me, means he's overhyped. I think a lot of people will be surprised how far he drops if he goes into the draft.

Bangarang
10-03-2010, 07:18 AM
I see Mallett as a better player in the NFL than Luck imo. Both of those guys have made questionable mistakes but I still prefer Mallett.

ddaryl
10-03-2010, 07:35 AM
Agreed - and it's still early. A lot of people have written Locker off as a pro prospect from one game, which, IMO, is a HUGE error.

then they need to right off Luck after todays game, and Mallett for last weeks debacle

All 3 top QB's have had ups and downs so far this year...

I do agree that Locker has the worse supporting cast of the 3 QB's which is a factor. I'm still considering him a top 1st rd prospect, but it will definitely all come down to how strong these guys finish the season..

this whole top QB debate is going to be a season long affair.

tampabay25690
10-03-2010, 03:09 PM
Locker would look good in a Bills uniform.
The guy is a playmaker.....
It will be nice to have a QB run a 4.4 behind this line

Nighthawk
10-03-2010, 03:16 PM
Locker would look good in a Bills uniform.
The guy is a playmaker.....
It will be nice to have a QB run a 4.4 behind this line

Just like Tebow would've looked good, right? No thanks...Locker is just not NFL ready.

tampabay25690
10-03-2010, 04:07 PM
Just like Tebow would've looked good, right? No thanks...Locker is just not NFL ready.

I forgot you are a scout...