Fire Tom Modrak!

[Michael82]

The more I think about it, the more I want him gone. He's the only one left from the Tom Donahoe Era for some reason, yet he's the Head of college scouting. A lot of people think that he's not been the one making the decisions, but look at our drafts since he was first brough here and tell me why we should keep him.

2002 - Buffalo Bills
Rd	Sel #	Player	Position	School
1	4	Mike Williams	T	Texas
2	36	Josh Reed	WR	Louisiana State
2	61	Ryan Denney	DE	Brigham Young
3	97	Coy Wire	SS	Stanford
5	139	Justin Bannan	DT	Colorado
6	176	Kevin Thomas	CB	Nevada-Las Vegas
7	215	Mike Pucillo	G	Auburn
7	249	Rodney Wright	--	Fresno State
7	251	Jarrett Ferguson	--	Virginia Tech
7	260	Dominique Stevenson	LB	Tennessee

2003 - Buffalo Bills
Rd	Sel #	Player	Position	School
1	23	Willis McGahee	RB	Miami (Fla.)
2	48	Chris Kelsay	DE	Nebraska
3	94	Angelo Crowell	LB	Virginia
4	111	Terrence McGee	DB	Northwestern State-Louisiana
4	127	Sam Aiken	WR	North Carolina
5	151	Ben Sobieski	G	Iowa
6	187	Lauvale Sape	DT	Utah
7	228	Mario Haggan	LB	Mississippi State

2004 - Buffalo Bills
Rd	Sel #	Player	Position	School
1	13	Lee Evans	WR	Wisconsin
1	22	J.P. Losman	QB	Tulane
3	74	Tim Anderson	DT	Ohio State
4	109	Tim Euhus	TE	Oregon State
7	207	Dylan McFarland	T	Montana
7	214	Jonathan Smith	WR	Georgia Tech

2005 - Buffalo Bills
Rd	Sel #	Player	Position	School
2	55	Roscoe Parrish	WR	Miami (Fla.)
3	86	Kevin Everett	TE	Miami (Fla.)
4	122	Duke Preston	C	Illinois
5	156	Eric King	DB	Wake Forest
6	197	Justin Geisinger	G	Vanderbilt
7	236	Lionel Gates	RB	Louisville

2006 - Buffalo Bills
Rd	Sel #	Player	Position	School
1	8	Donte Whitner	SS	Ohio State
1	26	John McCargo	DT	North Carolina State
3	70	Ashton Youboty	CB	Ohio State
4	105	Ko Simpson	FS	South Carolina
5	134	Kyle Williams	DT	Louisiana State
5	143	Brad Butler	T	Virginia
6	178	Keith Ellison	OLB	Oregon State
7	216	Terrance Pennington	T	New Mexico
7	248	Aaron Merz	G	California

2007 - Buffalo Bills
Rd	Sel #	Player	Position	School
1	12	Marshawn Lynch	RB	California
2	34	Paul Posluszny	MLB	Penn State
3	92	Trent Edwards	QB	Stanford
4	111	Dwayne Wright	RB	Fresno State
6	184	John Wendling	DB	Wyoming
7	222	Derek Schouman	FB	Boise State
7	239	C.J. Ah You	DE	Oklahoma

2008 - Buffalo Bills
Rd	Sel #	Player	Position	School
1	11	Leodis McKelvin	CB	Troy
2	41	James Hardy	WR	Indiana
3	72	Chris Ellis	DE	Virginia Tech
4	114	Reggie Corner	DB	Akron
4	132	Derek Fine	TE	Kansas
5	147	Alvin Bowen	OLB	Iowa State
6	179	Xavier Omon	RB	Northwest Missouri State
7	219	Demetrius Bell	T	Northwestern State-Louisiana
7	224	Steve Johnson	WR	Kentucky
7	251	Kennard Cox	CB	Pittsburgh

2009 - Buffalo Bills
Rd	Sel #	Player	Position	School
1	11	Aaron Maybin	DE	Penn State
1	28	Eric Wood	C	Louisville
2	42	Jairus Byrd	DB	Oregon
2	51	Andy Levitre	G	Oregon State
4	121	Shawn Nelson	TE	Southern Mississippi
5	147	Nic Harris	LB	Oklahoma
6	183	Cary Harris	DB	USC
7	220	Ellis Lankster	DB	West Virginia

[RoscoeMagic]

Re: Fire Tom Modrak!

I couldn't get passed Tim Euhus without vomiting in my mouth.

As Mike Gundy would say, THAT'S GARBAGE

[better days]

Re: Fire Tom Modrak!

I have defended him in the past because he was only a scout, but I agree I would be happy to see him gone as well.

[Michael82]

Re: Fire Tom Modrak!

Oh and check out the one year that Donahoe was here alone without Modrak....

2001 - Buffalo Bills
Rd	Sel #	Player	Position	School
1	21	Nate Clements	CB	Ohio State
2	46	Aaron Schobel	DE	Texas Christian
2	58	Travis Henry	HB	Tennessee
3	76	Ron Edwards	DT	Texas A&M
3	95	Jonas Jennings	T	Georgia
4	110	Brandon Spoon	MLB	North Carolina
5	144	Marques Sullivan	T	Illinois
6	178	Tony Driver	DB	Notre Dame
6	195	Dan O'Leary	TE	Notre Dame
6	196	Jimmy Williams	CB	Vanderbilt
7	214	Reggie Germany	WR	Ohio State
7	238	Tyrone Robertson	DT	Georgia

[DraftBoy]

Re: Fire Tom Modrak!

You're blaming for picks he had little to no input on.

Fact is we have no idea how much input Modrak has on any of these decisions, you're looking for a scape goat to blame to make yourself feel better.

[RoscoeMagic]

Re: Fire Tom Modrak!

I also think it has to do with the organization not developing their players properly, coaches not putting guys in spots to succeed, losing culture, bad drafting/no talent, etc... Whatever the reason, you can't argue with how bad the players have ended up being.

[Michael82]

Re: Fire Tom Modrak!

You're blaming for picks he had little to no input on.

Fact is we have no idea how much input Modrak has on any of these decisions, you're looking for a scape goat to blame to make yourself feel better.

We tossed John Guy off the team at the start of the year and used him as the scapegoat for all the NFL FAs that he signed. Why can't we do the same thing with Modrak? He might not be the main problem with drafts...but who else has been here with the team since 2001? Just Ralph and we can't fire him.

[DaBillzAhDaShiznit]

Re: Fire Tom Modrak!

Wow that's so disturbing when you look at those lists.

I would really like to see the same for the other teams in our division.

They have had some blunders too, but is it this bad?

[Johnny Bugmenot]

Re: Fire Tom Modrak!

I'm with ya, Mikey-- or should I say Michael. Modrak is one of the common threads in the Lost Decade. You make a point about '01-- it was a relatively good draft, perhaps the last such draft.

[DraftBoy]

Re: Fire Tom Modrak!

We tossed John Guy off the team at the start of the year and used him as the scapegoat for all the NFL FAs that he signed. Why can't we do the same thing with Modrak? He might not be the main problem with drafts...but who else has been here with the team since 2001? Just Ralph and we can't fire him.

Brandon
Overdorf

are just two of the names, and granted Op would love to can them well, but the fla in your point is in the bolded.

Like I said you want to fire a guy, just to fire him, not because you know he is incapable of actually doing his job properly.

Also didnt just two or three years ago RW say he was going to put more emphasis on Modrak's opinion in the war room? Thus making any pick made before them basically invalid.

[Michael82]

Re: Fire Tom Modrak!

Brandon
Overdorf

are just two of the names, and granted Op would love to can them well, but the fla in your point is in the bolded.

Like I said you want to fire a guy, just to fire him, not because you know he is incapable of actually doing his job properly.

Also didnt just two or three years ago RW say he was going to put more emphasis on Modrak's opinion in the war room? Thus making any pick made before them basically invalid.

Overdorf does not select players in the draft. He's just a money guy. And I don't think Brandon has any say either. I'm sorry, but the only guy that seems to have the most imput is Tom Modrak and for a decade of ****ty drafts like this, he deserves to go!

[Michael82]

Re: Fire Tom Modrak!

I'm with ya, Mikey-- or should I say Michael. Modrak is one of the common threads in the Lost Decade. You make a point about '01-- it was a relatively good draft, perhaps the last such draft.

Yeah, I noticed that Modrak wasn't hired until after 2001. That draft was one of our better ones since 2000. Look at the first 3 rounds.

[k-oneputt]

Re: Fire Tom Modrak!

Jauron was the big voice for Maybin.
The Whitner/McCargo fiasco was Marv.

Basically Marv is the one that really F'ed the dog with his GM years and the hiring of Jauron.

[Michael82]

Re: Fire Tom Modrak!

Jauron was the big voice for Maybin.
The Whitner/McCargo fiasco was Marv.

Basically Marv is the one that really F'ed the dog with his GM years and the hiring of Jauron.

Good point. Marv destroyed his legacy with his putrid job as a GM.

[justasportsfan]

Re: Fire Tom Modrak!

heard Thurman Thomas say that not all the decisions were Modraks.