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Dr. Lecter
10-05-2010, 02:25 PM
What say you?

(Note: please base the grade on the trade itself. It is not an F because Lynch was a bad pick or because Spiller was a wasted pick - grade only on the trade itself in the position the Bills were in)

RoscoeMagic
10-05-2010, 02:29 PM
Could have held out another week until the deadline. Not saying we could have got more, but we could have tried. Lynch could have had a good game vs. Jax, not the best D in the world. Plus the interest from Green Bay and Philadelphia could have drove the price up. If we made this trade at the deadline, I'd be certain it was the best we could have gotten. Since we made it early, I have doubts.

Sorry, forgot to say...B-/C+...voted C

Dr. Pepper
10-05-2010, 02:32 PM
A. any trade to get his ass off this team is a good one. 3 backs were counter productive, and if the seahawks backed off their offer between now and the deadline wed be screwed. im sure this is the best we could get, if we waited this long to get rid of him.

TheBrownBear
10-05-2010, 02:32 PM
probably a B-/C+. he had no future in Buffalo and we could end up with a quality depth guy in the 4th round. also, hard to grade since we don't know about the conditional pick. if that turns out to be a 3rd in 2012, this could be considered a pretty darn good trade.

ddaryl
10-05-2010, 02:35 PM
should of played hardball and waited to see who blinked. 3 teams all in a pinch showed serious interest...

Jan Reimers
10-05-2010, 02:36 PM
The guy had 2, 1,000 yard rushing seasons, runs like a freight train, and is 24 years old. I think a 4th and a most probably lower conditional pick for him is a really bad deal for the Bills.

malo
10-05-2010, 02:38 PM
I give it a C, but they couldn't have done better. I think the Hawks get the better end of the deal.

billsfanryan
10-05-2010, 02:38 PM
The guy had 2, 1,000 yard rushing seasons, runs like a freight train, and is 24 years old. I think a 4th and a most probably lower conditional pick for him is a really bad deal for the Bills.

Agree 100%

Not to mention this team is starving for talent. There goes talent...

HHURRICANE
10-05-2010, 02:39 PM
F

We draft 1st rounders and trade them for 4th rounders. Good work.

RockStar36
10-05-2010, 02:40 PM
B.

Solid return, good move for all sides involved. Helps the Bills going forward.

Dr. Lecter
10-05-2010, 02:40 PM
F

We draft 1st rounders and trade them for 4th rounders. Good work.

Did you read what I said???????

No, I don't think you did.

YardRat
10-05-2010, 02:40 PM
I would have liked to get more, but if that's what the market was I'll accept it. I'm pretty sure his value wouldn't have been much higher this off-season.

Ebenezer
10-05-2010, 02:42 PM
F

We draft 1st rounders and trade them for 4th rounders. Good work.

What did NE get for Maroney?? Oh, yeah. Belichick is a genius, I forgot.

OpIv37
10-05-2010, 02:44 PM
With 3 teams vying for him, I think they probably could have done a little better, and I would have liked to have seen it done sooner.

But I'm still giving it a B. We are going nowhere with or without Lynch, and we need as many draft picks as possible to replace the trash on this roster. Also, let's not forget that Lynch is one strike away from a year vacation courtesy of Roger Goodell. That lowers his value.

Michael82
10-05-2010, 02:44 PM
I'm a little disappointed. I feel we should have waited until the last possible minute. I still find it hard to believe that Green Bay who is desperate for a running back, wouldn't give a 3rd round pick. But I also am glad the 3 man rotation is done. Now let's see what C.J. Spiller can do. :up:

Dr. Pepper
10-05-2010, 02:46 PM
Agree 100%

Not to mention this team is starving for talent. There goes talent...

this argument might hold water if we were thin at RB, or were letting go our most talented back... you do realize we just traded away our THIRD best running back, correct? oh, and one thats one run in with the law away from being kicked off the team anyway.

Dr. Lecter
10-05-2010, 02:46 PM
I'm a little disappointed. I feel we should have waited until the last possible minute. I still find it hard to believe that Green Bay who is desperate for a running back, wouldn't give a 3rd round pick. But I also am glad the 3 man rotation is done. Now let's see what C.J. Spiller can do. :up:


I would say that Seattle's 4th + a Seattle 6th is worth as much as GBs 3rd. Remember, the two teams are likely to be drafting in very different positions.

Ebenezer
10-05-2010, 02:46 PM
B.

Ebenezer
10-05-2010, 02:48 PM
With 3 teams vying for him, I think they probably could have done a little better, and I would have liked to have seen it done sooner.

Three teams "vying" doesn't mean three teams trying to outbid each other. Two teams simply could have said "5th, take it or leave it". He's been shopped since before the draft. His stock never increased.

RockStar36
10-05-2010, 02:48 PM
I'm a little disappointed. I feel we should have waited until the last possible minute. I still find it hard to believe that Green Bay who is desperate for a running back, wouldn't give a 3rd round pick. But I also am glad the 3 man rotation is done. Now let's see what C.J. Spiller can do. :up:

I'm actually more happy he got traded to Seattle. It seemed to me like Green Bay kept holding out and not doing the deal, so I'm glad the Bills simply moved to the next team and did the deal. Now Green Bay should be regretting that decision.

Also, someone already said before, but Green Bay's 3rd and Seattle's 4th are probably going to end up being really close so it's kind of irrelevant.

psubills62
10-05-2010, 03:05 PM
B.

It's not spectacular (depending on what the conditional pick is), but I'm fine with it. Better than getting nothing for Lynch, and possibly provides ammunition to move around in the draft if Nix and co. feel that's what they want to do.

Johnny Bugmenot
10-05-2010, 03:05 PM
They couldn't get another body that helps them now?

No better than a D.

Mr. Pink
10-05-2010, 03:07 PM
B-

Shoulda been done during the draft.

EDS
10-05-2010, 03:11 PM
D. NE got almost as much for Maroney, a far less accomplished running back.

Dr. Lecter
10-05-2010, 03:12 PM
D. NE got almost as much for Maroney, a far less accomplished running back.


No they did not.

They traded Maroney and a pick for a 4th.

The Bills traded Lynch for a 4th and pick. The two are not close.

RockStar36
10-05-2010, 03:14 PM
D. NE got almost as much for Maroney, a far less accomplished running back.

In his three full seasons of playing in NE (one was cut very short), Maroney accumulated 2337 yards.

In his three full seasons of playing in Buffalo, Lynch accumulated 2601.

EDS
10-05-2010, 03:15 PM
No they did not.

They traded Maroney and a pick for a 4th.

The Bills traded Lynch for a 4th and pick. The two are not close.

6th round picks are useless more often than not. But yeah, I am sure the Bills front office will use that pick to get the next Tom Brady.

Extremebillsfan247
10-05-2010, 03:15 PM
Ah, just found out that the second part of that trade is for a 6th that could turn into a 5th depending on Lynch's performance on Seattle. I'm pulling for him to be successful now. lol

EDS
10-05-2010, 03:20 PM
In his three full seasons of playing in NE (one was cut very short), Maroney accumulated 2337 yards.

In his three full seasons of playing in Buffalo, Lynch accumulated 2601.

Maroney has been terrible and injury prone the past two seasons. You expect a discount because of that.

Dr. Lecter
10-05-2010, 03:21 PM
Maroney has been terrible and injury prone the past two seasons. You expect a discount because of that.
And Lynch has been terrible and is one step away from a year ban

That is worthy of a discount too.

Mr. Pink
10-05-2010, 03:21 PM
Maroney has been terrible and injury prone the past two seasons. You expect a discount because of that.


Lynch has been terrible and suspended in the past season and a quarter.

You don't expect a discount because of that?

RockStar36
10-05-2010, 03:22 PM
Maroney has been terrible and injury prone the past two seasons. You expect a discount because of that.


And Lynch has been terrible and is one step away from a year ban

That is worthy of a discount too.

Thank you Doc. You're the voice of reason sometimes.

Mr. Pink
10-05-2010, 03:22 PM
And Lynch has been terrible and is one step away from a year ban

That is worthy of a discount too.


Did you post 2 seconds before me?

:rofl:

ChristopherWalken
10-05-2010, 03:25 PM
I say untimely, but had to be done.

Dujek
10-05-2010, 03:29 PM
Bills made the best of a bad situation. Should have bee done before the draft though, so I can only give it a C.

Philagape
10-05-2010, 03:33 PM
C minus.

I don't think he'll do very well in Seattle, so I'm not counting on that conditional pick to be decent.

They got two projects for their staff of teachers to mold :ill:

Philagape
10-05-2010, 03:37 PM
And I just found out the conditional won't be any better than a 5th anyway. I lower my grade to a D.

Ingtar33
10-05-2010, 03:38 PM
F- because we could have got that in july when he was refusing to show up to minicamps.

that grade has nothing to do with how much we got... i think that's about the market... it's because this FO dicked around for 4 months with thier thumbs up their asses waiting for a better deal then one they could have got on draft day.

Michael82
10-05-2010, 03:40 PM
F- because we could have got that in july when he was refusing to show up to minicamps.

that grade has nothing to do with how much we got... i think that's about the market... it's because this FO dicked around for 4 months with thier thumbs up their asses waiting for a better deal then one they could have got on draft day.
The Bills tried to showcase him and get more for him. It almost worked. I really believe that the Packers were close to trading their 3rd for him...but they didn't blink. So the Bills finally gave in and took the offer they got earlier in the year.

shelby
10-05-2010, 04:01 PM
C. i wish we had gotten more. But i think, in the end, it is for the best.

Tbuffalobills
10-05-2010, 04:05 PM
Can we Trade Evans for a 2nd Rounder Next Year????

HHURRICANE
10-05-2010, 04:16 PM
I would say that Seattle's 4th + a Seattle 6th is worth as much as GBs 3rd. Remember, the two teams are likely to be drafting in very different positions.


Since 2004 this is what a 4th and 6th round pick has looked like. Excellent trade can't wait to see what loser we pick up:


4 109 Tim Euhus TE Oregon State
6 187 Lauvale Sape DT Utah
4 122 Duke Preston C Illinois

6 197 Justin Geisinger G Vanderbilt
4 105 Ko Simpson FS South Carolina

6 178 Keith Ellison OLB Oregon State

4 111 Dwayne Wright RB Fresno State
6 184 John Wendling DB Wyoming

4 114 Reggie Corner DB Akron
4 132 Derek Fine TE Kansas

6 179 Xavier Omon RB Northwest Missouri State
4 121 Shawn Nelson TE Southern Mississippi

6 183 Cary Harris DB USC
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Extremebillsfan247
10-05-2010, 04:32 PM
Since 2004 this is what a 4th and 6th round pick has looked like. Excellent trade can't wait to see what loser we pick up:


4 109 Tim Euhus TE Oregon State
6 187 Lauvale Sape DT Utah
4 122 Duke Preston C Illinois

6 197 Justin Geisinger G Vanderbilt
4 105 Ko Simpson FS South Carolina

6 178 Keith Ellison OLB Oregon State

4 111 Dwayne Wright RB Fresno State
6 184 John Wendling DB Wyoming

4 114 Reggie Corner DB Akron
4 132 Derek Fine TE Kansas

6 179 Xavier Omon RB Northwest Missouri State
4 121 Shawn Nelson TE Southern Mississippi

6 183 Cary Harris DB USC
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Ellison and Corner turned out ok. They aren't allstar players but they serve their purpose for the position they were drafted. The jury is still out on Nelson. JMO

X-Era
10-05-2010, 04:39 PM
The Bell curve seem to say a grade of C.

At least our FO is average... :tap:

X-Era
10-05-2010, 04:39 PM
Since 2004 this is what a 4th and 6th round pick has looked like. Excellent trade can't wait to see what loser we pick up:


4 109 Tim Euhus TE Oregon State
6 187 Lauvale Sape DT Utah
4 122 Duke Preston C Illinois

6 197 Justin Geisinger G Vanderbilt
4 105 Ko Simpson FS South Carolina

6 178 Keith Ellison OLB Oregon State

4 111 Dwayne Wright RB Fresno State
6 184 John Wendling DB Wyoming

4 114 Reggie Corner DB Akron
4 132 Derek Fine TE Kansas

6 179 Xavier Omon RB Northwest Missouri State
4 121 Shawn Nelson TE Southern Mississippi

6 183 Cary Harris DB USC
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:clap:

But we hang on to these picks like they are gold.

Thank you for seeing it.

doug45
10-05-2010, 04:53 PM
I once said if we end up with the #1 Pick this year they would trade it for a ham sandwich. They didn't even get that on this trade. A 4th round pick !!!!! But true to form , that will be a lot cheaper. I don't want to hear rebuilding either!!!!!!! That last a couple years not decades..............

cocamide
10-05-2010, 04:56 PM
With 3 teams vying for him, I think they probably could have done a little better, and I would have liked to have seen it done sooner.

But I'm still giving it a B. We are going nowhere with or without Lynch, and we need as many draft picks as possible to replace the trash on this roster. Also, let's not forget that Lynch is one strike away from a year vacation courtesy of Roger Goodell. That lowers his value.

I couldn't agree more. I wonder if Lynch's baggage made him too much of a risk for a 3rd rounder.

Typ0
10-05-2010, 05:09 PM
despite all the bad stuff about him Lynch was still the best RB on the team right now. We traded him for a pick that really doesn't amount to much because it's in the future and a lower round. We should have kept him on the roster to help us with a damn football game this year. F.