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  • cocamide
    Registered User
    • Oct 2006
    • 2106

    Interesting take from Seahawks message board

    The other factor is his character. Randy Moss, a Hall of Famer, was traded for a 4th rounder due to character concerns. Santonio Holmes, was traded for a 5th rounder for character concerns. These guys are Pro Bowl talents at their positions. Lynch is no where near as talented, has the same character issues, and yet we trade higher compensation for him?


    I thought we could get a third rounder for Lynch, but when you think about the trades for these two players, a third rounder might never have been a possibility. A 4th and a conditional is sounding a little better to me now.
  • BILLSROCK1212
    !?!?!?!?!?
    • Mar 2006
    • 5269

    #2
    Re: Interesting take from Seahawks message board

    Originally posted by cocamide
    http://www.seahawks.net/viewtopic.ph...0730&start=140

    I thought we could get a third rounder for Lynch, but when you think about the trades for these two players, a third rounder might never have been a possibility. A 4th and a conditional is sounding a little better to me now.
    very good point, that dawned on me as well...it was a solid move and when you think how the seahawks used those picks to trade for marshawn, we can in turn use them to trade for another established player if we see that as the best option...solid move, not amazing, but solid

    i'm just surprised the packers didn't feel the need to put a better offer on the table considering it's super bowl or bust for them

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    • better days
      Registered User
      • Jan 2010
      • 22028

      #3
      Re: Interesting take from Seahawks message board

      The BIG difference is the Bills could have received a 3rd rnd comp pick for Lynch. The Raiders could not get that for Moss.

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      • YardRat
        Well, lookie here...
        • Dec 2004
        • 86147

        #4
        Re: Interesting take from Seahawks message board

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        • X-Era
          What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
          • Feb 2005
          • 27670

          #5
          Re: Interesting take from Seahawks message board

          Originally posted by cocamide
          http://www.seahawks.net/viewtopic.ph...0730&start=140

          I thought we could get a third rounder for Lynch, but when you think about the trades for these two players, a third rounder might never have been a possibility. A 4th and a conditional is sounding a little better to me now.
          Very nice perspective. I actually feel a bit better now.

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          • RockStar36
            Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
            • Sep 2004
            • 24761

            #6
            Re: Interesting take from Seahawks message board

            Originally posted by better days
            The BIG difference is the Bills could have received a 3rd rnd comp pick for Lynch. The Raiders could not get that for Moss.
            In how many years?

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            • Mr. Pink
              Peterman Sucks!
              • Mar 2006
              • 35303

              #7
              Re: Interesting take from Seahawks message board

              Originally posted by RockStar36
              In how many years?

              And if they didn't sign any FAs worth jack.

              Don't forget that part too.

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              • cocamide
                Registered User
                • Oct 2006
                • 2106

                #8
                Re: Interesting take from Seahawks message board

                Originally posted by better days
                The BIG difference is the Bills could have received a 3rd rnd comp pick for Lynch. The Raiders could not get that for Moss.
                I'm not so sure about this. I'm not a draft expert, but I don't see how having Lynch leave for free agency would grant us a third round compensatory pick. Can someone explain this to me? I understand that there are compensatory picks when you lose more free agents than you gain, but Lynch alone wouldn't grant us a third rounder.

                That being said, we needed to move Lynch. Our backfield was way too crowded and it was impossible to establish any sort of rhythm back there.

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                • better days
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 22028

                  #9
                  Re: Interesting take from Seahawks message board

                  Originally posted by RockStar36
                  In how many years?
                  The draft after he left in FA, so the Bills could have had Lynch for this year & next, then received a 3rd.

                  Unless the 2012 pick from Seattle is at least a 3rd the Bills got taken IMO.

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                  • better days
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 22028

                    #10
                    Re: Interesting take from Seahawks message board

                    Originally posted by cocamide
                    I'm not so sure about this. I'm not a draft expert, but I don't see how having Lynch leave for free agency would grant us a third round compensatory pick. Can someone explain this to me? I understand that there are compensatory picks when you lose more free agents than you gain, but Lynch alone wouldn't grant us a third rounder.

                    That being said, we needed to move Lynch. Our backfield was way too crowded and it was impossible to establish any sort of rhythm back there.
                    If a 1st rnd pick leaves in FA & the team does not sign another FA of equal or greater value they receive a 3rd rnd pick.

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                    • Ebenezer
                      Give me a minute...
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 73868

                      #11
                      Re: Interesting take from Seahawks message board

                      Originally posted by X-Era
                      Very nice perspective. I actually feel a bit better now.
                      The only people who think that the Bills could have gotten better than they did are Bills fans...perspective folks...I know, it hurts.




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                      • Buddo
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 1864

                        #12
                        Re: Interesting take from Seahawks message board

                        Way too many things that can't be foreseen, to assume we would have got a compensatory pick of a 3rd rounder in 2012.

                        The comparison between Holmes and Lynch is valid, as they both have 'served time' as it were. The one with Moss doesn't really, as I don't believe he's been suspended for anything. Sure there would have been concerns about 'attitude', but not about doing something stupid to get himself suspended (again in the case of Lynch and Holmes).

                        Current values for RBs aren't especially high, especially when you consider that Maroney went to the Broncos for an exchange of picks - the Pats 6th rounder for the broncos 4th.

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                        • dannyek71
                          Drink Responsibly
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 6945

                          #13
                          Re: Interesting take from Seahawks message board

                          Originally posted by cocamide
                          http://www.seahawks.net/viewtopic.ph...0730&start=140

                          I thought we could get a third rounder for Lynch, but when you think about the trades for these two players, a third rounder might never have been a possibility. A 4th and a conditional is sounding a little better to me now.
                          That's what inflation over the years does for you.
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                          • Yasgur's Farm
                            Moderator
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 7091

                            #14
                            Re: Interesting take from Seahawks message board

                            Originally posted by better days
                            The BIG difference is the Bills could have received a 3rd rnd comp pick for Lynch. The Raiders could not get that for Moss.
                            As others have stated...
                            1) In how many years?
                            2) Only if we don't sign any free agents
                            and I'll add...
                            3) The best we could get would be a 3rd rounder AT THE END OF THE 3RD ROUND! I'll take the lowly Seatle 4th + the conditional!

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                            • trapezeus
                              Legendary Zoner
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 19525

                              #15
                              Re: Interesting take from Seahawks message board

                              i love the trade....that could be like a 3rd rounder based on the seahawks end of season results. they aren't a whole lot better than us.

                              and like i said somewhere else, let's all remain beastmode fans. the better he does, the better the conditional pick in 2012 becomes.

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