John Wawrow on the Howard Simon Show

[Ginger Vitis]

John Wawrow(AP) was on the Howard Simon show this morning and put the chances the Bills would stay in Buffalo after Ralphs Wilson death at "65% to 70%".. He alluded to RW over the years voting against relocation every time and the league office would always want a team in the Buffalo/Toronto market and so much history with the several Bills who are currently in the Hall of Fame.. John didn't give any specifics but believes there is a plan in place once WIlson passes away to keep the team in Buffalo( Jim Kellys group of investors?)

[Forward_Lateral]

Re: John Wawrow on the Howard Simon Show

Someone needs to buy the team from him before he dies, then it's a non-issue. I don't trust his Polian firing daughter as far as I can throw her. She'd probably sell the team to the highest bidder and laugh all the way to the barn.

[Ginger Vitis]

Re: John Wawrow on the Howard Simon Show

I don't trust his Polian firing daughter

I think your referring to Linda Bogdan who passed away a year ago.. But there are 2 other daughters? And a wife that are in the mix

[malo]

Re: John Wawrow on the Howard Simon Show

All speculation. Wawrow doesn't know anything.

[Canadian'eh!]

Re: John Wawrow on the Howard Simon Show

Fact: The NFL likes money.
Fact: The NFL would make far more money with a team in LA.
Fact: The NFL prefers relocation to expansion.
Fact: Buffalo is a small market team and brings in less money than most.
Fact: The Bills play in an older, lower end building and there is no money for a new one.
Fact: The Toronto experiment has gone poorly.


Don't kid yourself. Moving a team from Buffalo to LA is a dream scenario for the NFL.

[PromoTheRobot]

Re: John Wawrow on the Howard Simon Show

Fact: The NFL likes money.
Fact: The Toronto experiment has gone poorly.

Like L.A. would flock to see this piece of crap team? Sorry, the Toronto experiment only proves Canadians are not as gullible as Ted Rogers thought.

PTR

[trapezeus]

Re: John Wawrow on the Howard Simon Show

Canadian experiment isn't over.

Yes, canadians aren't going to pay $250 vs. $45 to skip an hour and a half commute.

if there was not buffalo football, then yes, perhaps those people would pay a higher price for their own name on the jersey. My guess is that the NFL knows that the experiment was flawed in execution.

[mrbojanglezs]

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Someone needs to buy the team from him before he dies, then it's a non-issue. I don't trust his Polian firing daughter as far as I can throw her. She'd probably sell the team to the highest bidder and laugh all the way to the barn.

its a tax issue idk how the numbers work but if ralph sells now he gets docked income tax then there will be estate tax on top of the income tax after he passes.


maybe its cheaper for him to pass the team on then have them sell it, might result in less taxes.


when your dealing with big sums of capital tax is a very big deal and can be the difference of tens of millions

[Historian]

Re: John Wawrow on the Howard Simon Show

Don't forget Wilson's Grandaughter....

[trapezeus]

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65-70%? That's an odd guesstimate figure. it gives him a low enough percentage to not worry if they leave, and if they stay, "I predicted it."

[stuckincincy]

Re: John Wawrow on the Howard Simon Show

its a tax issue idk how the numbers work but if ralph sells now he gets docked income tax then there will be estate tax on top of the income tax after he passes.


maybe its cheaper for him to pass the team on then have them sell it, might result in less taxes.


when your dealing with big sums of capital tax is a very big deal and can be the difference of tens of millions

A tip for the common man - OH imposes a hefty tax on any estate over 300K, far less than the tax-free Federal maximum. Don't ever retire to OH.

[Jan Reimers]

Re: John Wawrow on the Howard Simon Show

A tip for the common man - OH imposes a hefty tax on any estate over 300K, far less than the tax-free Federal maximum. Don't ever retire to OH.

That's been my life long goal.l

[TrEd FTW]

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I don't trust his Polian firing daughter as far as I can throw her.

You don't trust the dead, eh? Do you fear a zombiepocalypse?

[Mad Max]

Re: John Wawrow on the Howard Simon Show

Fact: The NFL likes money.
Fact: The NFL would make far more money with a team in LA.
Fact: The NFL prefers relocation to expansion.
Fact: Buffalo is a small market team and brings in less money than most.
Fact: The Bills play in an older, lower end building and there is no money for a new one.
Fact: The Toronto experiment has gone poorly.


Don't kid yourself. Moving a team from Buffalo to LA is a dream scenario for the NFL.

I think L.A. is a boogeyman that owners of lower tier franchises plant in the heads of their fans and local municipalities.

If it were such a fabulous NFL market,

A.) A team would already be there
B.) Not one but TWO teams wouldn't have already left there

[Canadian'eh!]

Re: John Wawrow on the Howard Simon Show

I think L.A. is a boogeyman that owners of lower tier franchises plant in the heads of their fans and local municipalities.

If it were such a fabulous NFL market,

A.) A team would already be there
B.) Not one but TWO teams wouldn't have already left there

My understanding is that it was a lack of a quality building that killed the teams in LA previously.

There is so much money and so many people in LA, a team there is a no-brainer.

There is no way you can possibly convince me that the second largest maker in the US can't support a team.