View Full Version : Merriman to be released...per Adam Schefter
Nighthawk
10-13-2010, 12:37 PM
When he is healthy in a couple of weeks, the Chargers will release Merriman. I would not mind the Bills trying to land him. Of course, he has never been the same player since his suspension, but he'd be worth a look...especially with the LB's we have on this roster.
http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter#
NextbillsQB
10-13-2010, 12:40 PM
We need to make this happen, even tho I can see him on NE, NYJ, or Mia, but I really hope we land him. We need to get Nix and Florence talking
G Wolly
10-13-2010, 12:41 PM
We don't "need" to make this happen.
As Nighthawk said, he hasn't been the same and he's been pretty injury prone, so it may be a waste of a pickup.
Although I wouldn't be opposed to it happening.
Forward_Lateral
10-13-2010, 12:43 PM
Picking up players just because they are better than what the Bills have doesn't make them good players. It makes them better than garbage.
NextbillsQB
10-13-2010, 12:44 PM
We don't "need" to make this happen.
As Nighthawk said, he hasn't been the same and he's been pretty injury prone, so it may be a waste of a pickup.
Although I wouldn't be opposed to it happening.
He hasnt really been healthy enough to judge that yet. Either way, id take a no limbed Shawn Merriman than Maybin on roids
kingJofNYC
10-13-2010, 12:44 PM
When he is healthy in a couple of weeks, the Chargers will release Merriman. I would not mind the Bills trying to land him. Of course, he has never been the same player since his suspension, but he'd be worth a look...especially with the LB's we have on this roster.
http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter#
Actually, he was awesome after his suspension. Posted 17 sacks that season, and followed it up with another dozen or so the following year.
He's never been the same since blowing out his knee however.
djjimkelly
10-13-2010, 12:44 PM
merrimen at half speed is better then any lb on this team that being said still doesnt mean we need to get him.
i like our 0-16 pace it means we will get a qb
T-Long
10-13-2010, 12:45 PM
If the Bills keep losing, they will be able to claim him via waivers. The Bills and 49ers are the worst two teams record wise, but who's at the bottom for sure?
Extremebillsfan247
10-13-2010, 12:45 PM
That's a leader you can rally a young defense around. I just don't know if he would be up for coming here. I guess it would depend on how his relationship with Nix is and whether the Bills would even be interested. The last one is a puzzler. Just can't figure this team out anymore. JMO
RockStar36
10-13-2010, 12:46 PM
Yup. I'm for this.
RockStar36
10-13-2010, 12:46 PM
If the Bills keep losing, they will be able to claim him via waivers. The Bills and 49ers are the worst two teams record wise, but who's at the bottom for sure?
The Bills will be. The Niners will eventually win some games. They have an easier schedule.
Canadian'eh!
10-13-2010, 12:47 PM
lol... the Bills don't pay for Veteran players unless they will take next to nothing and no one else wants them.. plus apparently they are giving up on the 3-4 already.
BertSquirtgum
10-13-2010, 12:48 PM
merrimen at half speed is better then any lb on this team that being said still doesnt mean we need to get him.
i like our 0-16 pace it means we will get a qb
agreed. it wouldn't hurt having him on this team.
G Wolly
10-13-2010, 12:52 PM
Either way, id take a no limbed Shawn Merriman than Maybin on roids
No limbed Merriman on roids
Why would he want to come to the most hopeless franchise in the league? He'll have better options somewhere else.
bigbub2352
10-13-2010, 12:53 PM
Sign him that very second he is released...dont care what people say...when healthy he is a significant upgrade over Torbor and whoever
Mahdi
10-13-2010, 01:00 PM
Why would he want to come to the most hopeless franchise in the league? He'll have better options somewhere else.
Won't he be on waivers? Which means he won't have a choice where he goes. Like Trent.
Mr. Pink
10-13-2010, 01:02 PM
Merriman has been basically garbage since coming back from his suspension.
We have enough garbage.
Won't he be on waivers? Which means he won't have a choice where he goes. Like Trent.
That's true, I didn't think of that. However, I think his contract is up after this season and he'll just leave anyway. We might as well give the younger guys we have a chance to play.
Mahdi
10-13-2010, 01:05 PM
Merriman has been basically garbage since coming back from his suspension.
We have enough garbage.
His contract is not much and if he does come back to form that would be a huge steal. There really is nothing to lose by claiming him.
Mr. Pink
10-13-2010, 01:07 PM
His contract is not much and if he does come back to form that would be a huge steal. There really is nothing to lose by claiming him.
Ok, then maybe Reggie Torbor will be a huge steal too!
Merriman is who he is. A guy who needed to be a roided out freak to be successful at this level. No roids, no success.
kingJofNYC
10-13-2010, 01:27 PM
Ok, then maybe Reggie Torbor will be a huge steal too!
Merriman is who he is. A guy who needed to be a roided out freak to be successful at this level. No roids, no success.
But you're ignoring the fact he posted 29.5 sacks in 28 games after he was suspended for steroids. Merriman's problems/limitations are strictly physical.
Blowing out his knee set him back in '08/'09. He may never be what he was, but pinning his past success strictly on steroid use is pretty asinine, especially when the NFL still doesn't test for HGH.
Injuries have ravaged him the last two seasons.
Mahdi
10-13-2010, 01:28 PM
Ok, then maybe Reggie Torbor will be a huge steal too!
Merriman is who he is. A guy who needed to be a roided out freak to be successful at this level. No roids, no success.
First of all, there is no comparison between Merriman and Torbor.
Second, yes he was on roids but that doesn't mean all his success was attributed to it. It was a factor, a big factor, but playing football is mental also.
Merriman can return to form. It's not impossible without roids.
mikemac2001
10-13-2010, 02:04 PM
Takio Spikes blew out his knee had a couple bad years and now??? hes doing alright
why wouldn't we do this idc what people say but sometimes people take longer to heal.
T-Long
10-13-2010, 02:05 PM
what does his contract look like right now? The Bills would be accepting that prorated if claimed
k-oneputt
10-13-2010, 02:07 PM
Get Merriman, get the roids out, and get Maybin involved too.
I'd love Merriman, but he has Jet's written all over him.
Takio Spikes blew out his knee had a couple bad years and now??? hes doing alright
why wouldn't we do this idc what people say but sometimes people take longer to heal.
Spikes was benched like 3 weeks ago in SF.
better days
10-13-2010, 02:12 PM
Spikes was benched like 3 weeks ago in SF.
Well, he played in the last game & made a huge play.
justasportsfan
10-13-2010, 02:13 PM
Takio Spikes blew out his knee had a couple bad years and now??? hes doing alright
why wouldn't we do this idc what people say but sometimes people take longer to heal.
TKO had an achilles tear. Thats worse than a blown knee. I think the bills need to take a chance on Meriman if they are willing to take a chance on Kelsay. Meriman can mentor the young lbers too.
Well, he played in the last game & made a huge play.
I live in California, and lived in Sacramento for years up until June. I know a lot of people on this board still pine for Spikes but Niner's fans a pretty sick of him. I typically watch ever Niner game and Spikes is a shell of who he used to be. Buffalo did the right thing.
mikemac2001
10-13-2010, 02:26 PM
TKO had an achilles tear. Thats worse than a blown knee. I think the bills need to take a chance on Meriman if they are willing to take a chance on Kelsay. Meriman can mentor the young lbers too.
Ya i mispoke was just posting real fast to make my point but yes you are correct.
two teams gave up on him and i still would take him back.
Mahdi
10-13-2010, 02:33 PM
Spikes was benched like 3 weeks ago in SF.
Spikes is a regular on SF's defense. He is the starter next to Willis at ILB.
Spikes is a regular on SF's defense. He is the starter next to Willis at ILB.
http://49ersnews.com/2010/09/takeo-spikes-and-micheal-lewis-meet-the-bench/
I didn't watch the Sunday night game beacuse I was working. But Bowman has been getting a lot of Spikes snaps.
justasportsfan
10-13-2010, 02:36 PM
Ya i mispoke was just posting real fast to make my point but yes you are correct.
two teams gave up on him and i still would take him back.
No to TKO. Would rather move on with a younger lb'er but Merriman is a different story.
mikemac2001
10-13-2010, 03:27 PM
No to TKO. Would rather move on with a younger lb'er but Merriman is a different story.
wasn't saying to go get TKO but would love him if he was here, was always one of my favorites
Buffalo Thriller
10-13-2010, 05:44 PM
I am all for it.
X-Era
10-13-2010, 06:02 PM
A 26 year old player who is better than any player in our LB corp or probably even on the whole team at pass rushing? A guy who would be at worst an upgrade to Maybin?
Yeah, we can use that. We wont. Not because he cant help, but because of money and character issues.
Mad Max
10-13-2010, 06:51 PM
I live in California, and lived in Sacramento for years up until June. I know a lot of people on this board still pine for Spikes but Niner's fans a pretty sick of him. I typically watch ever Niner game and Spikes is a shell of who he used to be. Buffalo did the right thing.
He's done now, but was he done four seasons ago when the Bills and he parted ways? That's the 24 million dollar question.
YardRat
10-13-2010, 07:01 PM
Probably not happening considering the build through the draft philosophy, and it might be an unwise move to consider with Merriman being a shell of his former self, but it would be really cool if he turned out to be a James Lofton-type acquisition.
Mad Max
10-13-2010, 07:19 PM
If the Bills keep losing, they will be able to claim him via waivers. The Bills and 49ers are the worst two teams record wise, but who's at the bottom for sure?
I'm pretty sure he's been in the league for more than four years which means he's going to be released not waived. Which also means that even if we wanted him he is unlikely to come here, as he likes to partayyy at a level I don't think WNY can attain.
I personally think he's done as he's being released in lieu of Larry English, a guy that's San Diego's equivalent of Maybin..yikes!
Johnny Bugmenot
10-13-2010, 08:04 PM
Well, y'all can forget any team picking him up: instead of releasing him, he's going on injured reserve instead:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FBN_CHARGERS_MERRIMAN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-10-13-20-56-25
X-Era
10-13-2010, 08:13 PM
Well, y'all can forget any team picking him up: instead of releasing him, he's going on injured reserve instead:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FBN_CHARGERS_MERRIMAN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-10-13-20-56-25Did you read the article? It says he must be released when healthy. Thats whats been stated all along. If anything it turns might to must be released.
Mad Max
10-13-2010, 08:13 PM
Well, y'all can forget any team picking him up: instead of releasing him, he's going on injured reserve instead:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FBN_CHARGERS_MERRIMAN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-10-13-20-56-25
He's going on the list with a "minor injury designation" which means he has to be released when healthy, which will be this season.
imbondz
10-13-2010, 08:25 PM
the only time anyone good comes to Buffalo lately is if they are not wanted anywhere else because there career is over. Merriman is a fraud in my opinion. Only good while he was taking his steroid shots.
kelly2reed4six
10-13-2010, 09:43 PM
Why would he want to come to the most hopeless franchise in the league? He'll have better options somewhere else.
doesn't he have to play for the team that claims him if he doesn't clear waivers?....kinda like the whole trent thing?
kelly2reed4six
10-13-2010, 09:47 PM
the only time anyone good comes to Buffalo lately is if they are not wanted anywhere else because there career is over. Merriman is a fraud in my opinion. Only good while he was taking his steroid shots.
You're kidding right?! 17 sacks in 12 games the season AFTER his suspension for steroids. Something tells me he's legit.....injuries are no reason to give up on a guy who is only in his 6th season....12th season, ok, but not 6th.....
This guy played with a serious chip on his shoulder his sophmore year to prove the haters wrong that he could only produce while juicing.....something tells me he's gonna have that same chip on his shoulder this year!
MAKE THIS HAPPEN OBD!
kelly2reed4six
10-13-2010, 09:51 PM
Ok, then maybe Reggie Torbor will be a huge steal too!
Merriman is who he is. A guy who needed to be a roided out freak to be successful at this level. No roids, no success.
Again, know wth you are talking about before you post something like this.....the dude posted 29.5 sacks while clean from roids and posted 17 of those in a 14 game season.
TacklingDummy
10-13-2010, 10:23 PM
Maybe he will be motivated for a new contract. Bring him in. Nothing to lose.
Hell the Bills can pay Maybin millions to sit the bench they can afford to pay Merriman a couple hundred grand to see what he's got.
BertSquirtgum
10-13-2010, 10:46 PM
some of you guys are ******ed. you want this team to win but you don't want someone who will help them win. merriman, on his worse day is better than every single linebacker currently on this team.
G Wolly
10-13-2010, 11:11 PM
some of you guys are ******ed. you want this team to win but you don't want someone who will help them win. merriman, on his worse day is better than every single linebacker currently on this team.
One guy isn't the whole team.
We'd still be bad.
Tbuffalobills
10-13-2010, 11:21 PM
As a San Diego Bills Fan! Trust me this guy is FINISHED..DONE
WE DONT WANT HIM
His body is done- unless he gets back on the roids!!!!!
billz83
10-14-2010, 12:37 AM
i wish the bills got him but this is obviously tooo much to ask..he is better then all our LBz..watch the jets pick him up too..their owner actually wants to win y doesnt wilson take sum pointers..
G Wolly
10-14-2010, 01:22 AM
i wish the bills got him but this is obviously tooo much to ask..he is better then all our LBz..watch the jets pick him up too..their owner actually wants to win y doesnt wilson take sum pointers..
Are you a robot programmed to spout off the same stupid posts with different words?
It's getting old.
billz83
10-14-2010, 01:30 AM
Are you a robot programmed to spout off the same stupid posts with different words?
It's getting old.
yo if u dont like what i post then shut the F*** up and go about ur bizness..u r mad annoying with ur koolaid drinkin homerism...where eva i post u track it down and say sum stupid **** that has nothing to do with the original thread...like my grammar or suttin else..learn to shut the F*** up for once or prove me wrong..get offf DEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ NUTZZZZ!!!!
I got to "bizness" and laughed my ass off.
Chern's head would explode if he read this.
snow1989
10-14-2010, 03:04 AM
Doubtful Merriman will even want to come into this mess. He'll most likely do what LT did...look for a team that has a fairly legit shot, even if it means not being a featured player. To minimize further risk to injury he could be used as a sack specialist in passing downs etc..
X-Era
10-14-2010, 06:06 AM
Doubtful Merriman will even want to come into this mess. He'll most likely do what LT did...look for a team that has a fairly legit shot, even if it means not being a featured player. To minimize further risk to injury he could be used as a sack specialist in passing downs etc..I dont totally know how waivers works but maybe we can grab him on waivers and he wont have a choice?
jamze132
10-14-2010, 06:58 AM
If the Bills keep losing, they will be able to claim him via waivers. The Bills and 49ers are the worst two teams record wise, but who's at the bottom for sure?
Yeah, I think the Bills would be in the best position for any waiver claim but I highly doubt OBD would even put in a claim for him.
justasportsfan
10-14-2010, 09:44 AM
Again, know wth you are talking about before you post something like this.....the dude posted 29.5 sacks while clean from roids and posted 17 of those in a 14 game season.
lol. FTY arguing with FACTS again.
RoscoeMagic
10-14-2010, 10:16 AM
With the 2006 version of Merriman, we might have 2 wins...just sayin :pimped:
You have to wonder what type of long term damage the steroids have done to Merriman's body as he just has not been able to stay healthy and productive since 2007.
BertSquirtgum
10-14-2010, 10:53 AM
yo if u dont like what i post then shut the F*** up and go about ur bizness..u r mad annoying with ur koolaid drinkin homerism...where eva i post u track it down and say sum stupid **** that has nothing to do with the original thread...like my grammar or suttin else..learn to shut the F*** up for once or prove me wrong..get offf DEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ NUTZZZZ!!!!
this post is ghetto fabulous
patmoran2006
10-14-2010, 10:55 AM
a lot of you guys are wrong about his status. Once he's released, he does NOT go on waivers, so the Bills can't claim him if they wanted to. He'll immediately become a UFA and can sign anywhere.
From the NFL rulebook:
"a) Whenever a player who has finished the season in which his fourth year of credited service has been earned under the Bert Bell/Pete Rozelle Plan is placed on waivers between February 1 and the trading deadline, his contract will be considered terminated and the player will be completely free at any time thereafter to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any Club, and any Club shall be completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with such player"
So, he won't be a Bill. I highly doubt Buffalo would want him anyway, and I doubt even further he'd come here.
RockStar36
10-14-2010, 10:57 AM
So, he won't be a Bill. I highly doubt Buffalo would want him anyway, and I doubt even further he'd come here.
In other words, odds are high he could come to Buffalo.
TheBrownBear
10-14-2010, 11:06 AM
I live in San Diego. Merriman sucks - basically invisible since his injury and he's a distraction in the locker room. Keith Ellison is a superior player at this point in time - make of that what you will.
BertSquirtgum
10-14-2010, 11:13 AM
a lot of people keep saying he's done. that's bull****. many people said that about spikes after his achilles injury. he is out in san fran and he looked really good sunday night. to say merriman is done is complete horse****.
Dr. Lecter
10-14-2010, 11:18 AM
a lot of people keep saying he's done. that's bull****. many people said that about spikes after his achilles injury. he is out in san fran and he looked really good sunday night. to say merriman is done is complete horse****.
What does Spikes have to do with Merriman?
DraftBoy
10-14-2010, 11:20 AM
What does Spikes have to do with Merriman?
Another old LB....other than playing different styles, positions, and dealing with completely different injuries they are basically the same!
BertSquirtgum
10-14-2010, 11:21 AM
you cannot be that thick to not know why i brought up spikes.....i already explained why he was brought up. i guess i say it again....both are linebackers, both had similar injuries, and both are not, were not, done.
Dr. Lecter
10-14-2010, 11:22 AM
you cannot be that thick to not know why i brought up spikes.....i already explained why he was brought up. i guess i say it again....both are linebackers, both had similar injuries, and both are not, were not, done.
They did not have similar injuries. The injuries are completely different.
And they are both LBs but are completely different LBs.
BertSquirtgum
10-14-2010, 11:24 AM
they both had a acl and achilles injury. get the facts straightened out in your head sir.
DraftBoy
10-14-2010, 11:24 AM
They did not have similar injuries. The injuries are completely different.
And they are both LBs but are completely different LBs.
Achillies bone is connected to the knee bone, knee bone is connected to the calf bone.
See they are all connected! The song says so damnit! Therefor all the same injury!
BertSquirtgum
10-14-2010, 11:25 AM
you guys are know it all narcissistic clowns. there is no point. i'm off to lunch.
Dr. Lecter
10-14-2010, 11:28 AM
When did Spikes tear his ACL?
Whe did Merriman rupture his Achilles?
And yes, DB is proud of his know it clownness.
patmoran2006
10-14-2010, 11:29 AM
In other words, odds are high he could come to Buffalo. hah. Actually, yo'ure probably right then based on that.
DraftBoy
10-14-2010, 11:55 AM
you guys are know it all narcissistic clowns. there is no point. i'm off to lunch.
While this is very true, having the facts on your side certainly doesnt hurt any either.
Ickybaluky
10-14-2010, 12:50 PM
a lot of you guys are wrong about his status. Once he's released, he does NOT go on waivers, so the Bills can't claim him if they wanted to. He'll immediately become a UFA and can sign anywhere.
From the NFL rulebook:
"a) Whenever a player who has finished the season in which his fourth year of credited service has been earned under the Bert Bell/Pete Rozelle Plan is placed on waivers between February 1 and the trading deadline, his contract will be considered terminated and the player will be completely free at any time thereafter to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any Club, and any Club shall be completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with such player"
So, he won't be a Bill. I highly doubt Buffalo would want him anyway, and I doubt even further he'd come here.
That is only part of the rule. He is on reserve, and can't be waived until healthy, which based on reports is in a couple weeks.
The trading deadline is October 19th, so he won't be waived until after. After the trading deadline, all players are subject to waivers whether they are veterans or not. So Merriman is going to be subjected to the waiver process. That doesn't mean he will be claimed (especially given concerns about his health), but he will have to clear waivers.
patmoran2006
10-14-2010, 01:14 PM
That is only part of the rule. He is on reserve, and can't be waived until healthy, which based on reports is in a couple weeks.
The trading deadline is October 19th, so he won't be waived until after. After the trading deadline, all players are subject to waivers whether they are veterans or not. So Merriman is going to be subjected to the waiver process. That doesn't mean he will be claimed (especially given concerns about his health), but he will have to clear waivers.
That's right he is on reserve. Real good job explaining that too. Thanks
Eventually
10-14-2010, 02:38 PM
One likes the notion of obtaining a player in his twilight and then expect him to play like he's still in the prime of his career.
The only reason I would even consider Merrriman a viable addition to this team is if A.) He comes dirt cheap, which won't happen and B.) if they determine he could be a decent teacher, seeing he's good friends with Maybin, might actually help if these things aligned. The teaching could be worth it, with a splash of upside for the player himself.
That all said Much rather see what we got in Moats and Coleman, but the idea of possibly helping maybin out is intriguing if the price were right.
Finally, Thanking yourself is priceless.
G Wolly
10-14-2010, 03:04 PM
yo if u dont like what i post then shut the F*** up and go about ur bizness..u r mad annoying with ur koolaid drinkin homerism...where eva i post u track it down and say sum stupid **** that has nothing to do with the original thread...like my grammar or suttin else..learn to shut the F*** up for once or prove me wrong..get offf DEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ NUTZZZZ!!!!
Because you repeat the same thing in every post you make and you have no back up statements.
But fair enough.
Anyways, I was a fan of Merriman years ago, with SD being my back-up team. As stated plenty of times, he was great. But after the injuries, I'd say no.
But I wouldn't mind it if he wanted to play here and gave it his best.
billz83
10-15-2010, 12:34 AM
Because you repeat the same thing in every post you make and you have no back up statements.
But fair enough.
Anyways, I was a fan of Merriman years ago, with SD being my back-up team. As stated plenty of times, he was great. But after the injuries, I'd say no.
But I wouldn't mind it if he wanted to play here and gave it his best.
i dont think anyone will mind him playin here when he posts 10+ sacks..we still need more LBz but Merriman is definitely a start.
casdhf
10-15-2010, 06:42 AM
yo if u dont like what i post then shut the F*** up and go about ur bizness..u r mad annoying with ur koolaid drinkin homerism...where eva i post u track it down and say sum stupid **** that has nothing to do with the original thread...like my grammar or suttin else..learn to shut the F*** up for once or prove me wrong..get offf DEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ NUTZZZZ!!!! Did this really just happen?
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