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imbondz
10-14-2010, 11:09 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/The-rise-and-fall-of-Shawne-Merriman?urn=nfl-276809

I'm not sure why we would want him. Or, how you can say he's any good w/o steroids. He has not proven that he is. Plus, he seems like a cancer.

He literally hasn't done a thing since 2007. The only reason we'd consider him is because we're desperate.

Stats:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MerrSh99.htm

trapezeus
10-14-2010, 11:19 AM
he still ranks higher than anything else out there in the bills LB unit.

patmoran2006
10-14-2010, 11:32 AM
Like it or not, Bills just Kelsay 24 million... and they like Moats and Coleman as long term candidates. Plus, a pass rushing OLB has to be a high priority next offseason.

I dont think this guy fits into the Bills in any way, shape or form. For him to come here, Ralph would have to OVERPAY him big time, far more than he'll get somewhere else, and when he did "OK' at best fans would then blast the F.O. for being ******ed.

Ickybaluky
10-14-2010, 12:39 PM
Merriman was bagged for steroids and suspended the first 4 games of 2006. He was a terror sacking QB for the next 2 years.

The thing that was his undoing was blowing out his knee in 2008. Since then he has not been able to stay healthy, with both a foot injury and knee soreness. Health was his undoing.

OpIv37
10-14-2010, 12:55 PM
He should come to Buffalo to complete his fall from grace. We have become where NFL careers go to die (think Stroud, TO, re-signing Evans, re-signing Moulds, Bledsoe, Dockery, Langston Walker, Mitchell....)

G Wolly
10-14-2010, 03:07 PM
He should come to Buffalo to complete his fall from grace. We have become where NFL careers go to die (think Stroud, TO, re-signing Evans, re-signing Moulds, Bledsoe, Dockery, Langston Walker, Mitchell....)

Well the past 2 weeks T.O. has turned it on, so IMO he shouldn't be on that list.

OpIv37
10-14-2010, 03:10 PM
Well the past 2 weeks T.O. has turned it on, so IMO he shouldn't be on that list.

he turned it around by LEAVING Buffalo.

G Wolly
10-14-2010, 03:13 PM
he turned it around by LEAVING Buffalo.

Maybe add Troy Vincent to that list

:idunno:

RoscoeMagic
10-14-2010, 03:28 PM
Like it or not, Bills just Kelsay 24 million... and they like Moats and Coleman as long term candidates. Plus, a pass rushing OLB has to be a high priority next offseason.

I dont think this guy fits into the Bills in any way, shape or form. For him to come here, Ralph would have to OVERPAY him big time, far more than he'll get somewhere else, and when he did "OK' at best fans would then blast the F.O. for being ******ed.
I'm sorry. But if this organization likes Moats and Coleman as long-term candidates, then I expect mediocrity for another decade.

Not saying anything about Merriman...just our pathetic OLB isn't going to get better if we are jerking off to a 6th round rookie and a UDFA.

Spiderweb
10-16-2010, 07:51 PM
I'm sorry. But if this organization likes Moats and Coleman as long-term candidates, then I expect mediocrity for another decade.

Not saying anything about Merriman...just our pathetic OLB isn't going to get better if we are jerking off to a 6th round rookie and a UDFA.

Who cares where or in what round, if any, the Bills get their players from? A player is a player and if these guys can become players of note, all the more power to them and the Biils for obtaining their services.

Before Jason Peters, and others, Buffalo long ago drafted a college TE in the 17th round (back in the day), who became one of Buffalo's and the old AFL's greatest players. His name was Tom Sestak. For all the youngsters out there, he's is still the best Defensive Tackle the Bills have ever had. He was also voted onto the AFL All-Time Team. Knee injury shortened his career, but he was an absolute animal in his day, both in destroying run plays, but also as a sack master, before sacks became an official statistic, he was a double digit guy.

Spiderweb
10-16-2010, 07:53 PM
Who cares where or in what round, if any, the Bills get their players from? A player is a player and if these guys can become players of note, all the more power to them and the Biils for obtaining their services.

Before Jason Peters, and others, Buffalo long ago drafted a college TE in the 17th round (back in the day), who became one of Buffalo's and the old AFL's greatest players. His name was Tom Sestak. For all the youngsters out there, he's is still the best Defensive Tackle the Bills have ever had. He was also voted onto the AFL All-Time Team. Knee injury shortened his career, but he was an absolute animal in his day, both in destroying run plays, but also as a sack master. Before sacks became an official statistic, he was a double digit guy.

RoscoeMagic
10-16-2010, 11:00 PM
Who cares where or in what round, if any, the Bills get their players from? A player is a player and if these guys can become players of note, all the more power to them and the Biils for obtaining their services.

Before Jason Peters, and others, Buffalo long ago drafted a college TE in the 17th round (back in the day), who became one of Buffalo's and the old AFL's greatest players. His name was Tom Sestak. For all the youngsters out there, he's is still the best Defensive Tackle the Bills have ever had. He was also voted onto the AFL All-Time Team. Knee injury shortened his career, but he was an absolute animal in his day, both in destroying run plays, but also as a sack master, before sacks became an official statistic, he was a double digit guy.
Yeah...cool story bro.

Hit me up when Coleman and/or Moats become players.

The point was we shouldn't be relying on them. Not that oldtimers like you would get that...

Mr. Pink
10-16-2010, 11:05 PM
People should stop using exceptions against the general rule.

Of course there's talent that was found later in the draft, before it was even shortened to the 7 rounds of today, there were also less teams drafting for a players service as well back then.

There are still guys today that can break out after being a UDFA, but most UDFAs either don't make rosters or are special teams players. For every Jason Peters and Joshua Cribbs type of a guy there's hundreds of Marcus Monks.

That doesn't mean you should just give up on UDFA all together, but it does mean you shouldn't rely heavily on them at having a formidable future with the franchise.

billz83
10-18-2010, 02:05 AM
y would this team not be interested in merriman but give kelsay an extension?!?! a 24 million dollar extension?! id pay merriman the kelsay money and get rid of the scrub they call kelsay..

Yasgur's Farm
10-18-2010, 06:09 AM
Outside of his sack numbers for 3 years... His other stats are mediocre at best.

He's only averaged 3.9 tackles per game in his career... His best season for tackles (2007), he averaged just 4.5 tackles per game.

Now... you wanna compare those numbers to our admittedly putrid LB's?
Kelsay's avereaged the same 3.9 tackles per game over his career... He's averaging 6 tackles per game this season!

billz83
10-19-2010, 12:38 AM
Outside of his sack numbers for 3 years... His other stats are mediocre at best.

He's only averaged 3.9 tackles per game in his career... His best season for tackles (2007), he averaged just 4.5 tackles per game.

Now... you wanna compare those numbers to our admittedly putrid LB's?
Kelsay's avereaged the same 3.9 tackles per game over his career... He's averaging 6 tackles per game this season!

and im sure kelsay has more sacks then merriman and im sure kelsay can bring the same leadership and intensity to the field huh?! hahaha **** kelsay! i cant even believe ur trying to compare the 2 players as if they are equal..merriman is a FAR MORE DOMINANT player then kelsay could ever be even on his best day!

Yasgur's Farm
10-19-2010, 05:51 AM
With plain english words right there in front of God and everyone... Why do people insist they say something else? Why would people pretend to be ignorant?