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  • Ed
    Dude
    • Sep 2002
    • 9247

    Bills One of the Best in the League on 1st down!

    Sorry if this has been posted already, but check out this post from Tim Graham at ESPN. This really surprised me. Should it give us some hope?

    In this week's edition of "Final Word: AFC East," I presented some curious stats about the Buffalo Bills' offense.They rank fifth in the NFL and second in the AFC in yards gained on first down.
  • G Wolly
    Registered User
    • Mar 2004
    • 9387

    #2
    Re: Bills One of the Best in the League on 1st down!

    Unless it turns into another first down or some points, no.


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    • Ed
      Dude
      • Sep 2002
      • 9247

      #3
      Re: Bills One of the Best in the League on 1st down!

      Originally posted by G Wolly
      Unless it turns into another first down or some points, no.
      Yeah but at least it may be something to build on. This is the first positive thing I've seen this year. It's sad, but I'm trying.

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      • Coach Sal
        Registered User
        • Aug 2006
        • 2475

        #4
        Re: Bills One of the Best in the League on 1st down!

        1st down is mostly about coaching (play-calling).
        3rd down is mostly about having players who make plays.

        The Bills have a pretty good play-caller.

        They don't have good players.
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        • SeatownBillsFan21
          Registered User
          • Mar 2004
          • 2149

          #5
          Re: Bills One of the Best in the League on 1st down!

          Well thats about to change Sal we got Nelson coming back this week.

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          • jamze132
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            • Jun 2003
            • 29410

            #6
            Re: Bills One of the Best in the League on 1st down!

            That is a very telling stat.

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            • YardRat
              Well, lookie here...
              • Dec 2004
              • 86298

              #7
              Re: Bills One of the Best in the League on 1st down!

              I think we led the league last season in yards per rushing attempt on first down.

              1st down is mostly about coaching (play-calling).
              3rd down is mostly about having players who make plays.

              The Bills have a pretty good play-caller.

              They don't have good players.
              Considering the article focuses on the team's lack of production on second down, what is that about then?
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              • Ickybaluky
                Registered User
                • Jul 2003
                • 8884

                #8
                Re: Bills One of the Best in the League on 1st down!

                Graham has a follow-up today:

                LINK

                Not surprisingly, the Bills rank dead last in second-down offense.

                They have gained a league-low 268 yards on 174 second downs for an average of 1.5 yards per attempt.

                They've passed for 76 yards, making them the NFL's only team with less than 100 yards through the air on second down. They've rushed for 192 yards, ranking 17th in the league.

                So my speculation the Bills were skipping second down and going straight from first to third was only partially false.

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                • Coach Sal
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 2475

                  #9
                  Re: Bills One of the Best in the League on 1st down!

                  Originally posted by YardRat
                  Considering the article focuses on the team's lack of production on second down, what is that about then?
                  They're getting outcoached AND outplayed on 2nd down.
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                  • Jan Reimers
                    Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                    • May 2003
                    • 17353

                    #10
                    Re: Bills One of the Best in the League on 1st down!

                    As proof of the relevance of most statistics, Ryan Fitzpatrick is fourth in the NFL in QB rating.
                    Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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                    • zone
                      No, look. I do mind. The Dude minds.
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 2535

                      #11
                      Re: Bills One of the Best in the League on 1st down!

                      Originally posted by Jan Reimers
                      As proof of the relevance of most statistics, Ryan Fitzpatrick is fourth in the NFL in QB rating.
                      Fitz hasn't been the problem.
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                      • RoscoeMagic
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 1831

                        #12
                        Re: Bills One of the Best in the League on 1st down!

                        Originally posted by zone
                        Fitz hasn't been the problem.
                        I disagree. He went to Harvard, he should know how to rush the passer by now.
                        Internet Breeds Complacency.

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