QB SYNDROME

[Buffalo Thriller]

Losman was a gunslinger but just didn't cut it.

Edwards in his first couple of years showed some decent decision making, and as we all know went downhill from there.

Fitzpatrick shows some great talent, but none of that matters when you throw costly picks almost every game. I have never seen anything like it. Sure he makes some great throws and has a few TD's now and then, but those picks just cancel all of it out.

(EDIT:NICE TD PASS TO EVANS.)

Put Brohm in the rest of the year, and salvage what we can.

[Buffalo Thriller]

I may eat my words on this game winning drive?

[Crisis]

if fitz had any accuracy he'd be the best QB in the league.

[Buffalo Thriller]

hes got a nice throw. no ark at all,just inaccurate as hell

[Nighthawk]

Fitz isn't the answer...he kills this team with untimely INT's...but he has played better then I could have ever expected.

[theanswer74]

Shut up with the inaccurate talk, he was 67% today and is around 62% for the year. He made some bad throws, every QB does. He has 14 TD's and 4 INT's in his last 5 starts.

[Nighthawk]

Shut up with the inaccurate talk, he was 67% today and is around 62% for the year. He made some bad throws, every QB does. He has 14 TD's and 4 INT's in his last 5 starts.

He's not a QB that will win many games in this league...

[Dr. Pepper]

QB is less and less of a problem every week.... its now shifting to LB...

[theanswer74]

He's not a QB that will win many games in this league...
WTF are you talking about?

Wrong time to talk QB. Fitz is the best QB we have had since 2002, he may even be better than Bledsoe was.

[kingJofNYC]

Chan is working his magic. We saw some decent play out of Fitz last season, but he looks an order of magnitude better this season.

Sucks that his two picks cost us, he had a hell of a ball game.

[Nighthawk]

WTF are you talking about?

Wrong time to talk QB. Fitz is the best QB we have had since 2002, he may even be better than Bledsoe was.

Wow...just wow...

[PA Bills Fan]

He's not a QB that will win many games in this league...

And where did you say you got your coaching credentials???? I thought so. Nowhere.

[Dujek]

With solid defense Fitz would have won 3 out of his 4 starts, no ifs ands or buts.

[Nighthawk]

And where did you say you got your coaching credentials???? I thought so. Nowhere.

Ha, ha...some of you are pretty funny....ignorant, but funny.

[theanswer74]

Wow...just wow...
It is shocking, its the truth.

No QB has done that on the road vs a top team since I cant remember. I dont know what your opinion was of Fitz before the last 5 games, but whatever it was suck it up and get over your ego.

[PA Bills Fan]

Ha, ha...some of you are pretty funny....ignorant, but funny.

You're talking out your butt because your mouth knows better. Young punk.

[Nighthawk]

It is shocking, its the truth.

No QB has done that on the road vs a top team since I cant remember. I dont know what your opinion was of Fitz before the last 5 games, but whatever it was suck it up and get over your ego.

I'd love for him to be the answer, but let's not gloss over that fact that HIS interceptions basically were the difference in this game. I'm not hating on him, he is what he is...

[PA Bills Fan]

Ha, ha...some of you are pretty funny....ignorant, but funny.

Over 14K posts proves 1 thing,,,,,,,,you need a life.

[Nighthawk]

You're talking out your butt because your mouth knows better. Young punk.

I truly love Internet tough guys...

[Dr. Pepper]

I'd love for him to be the answer, but let's not gloss over that fact that HIS interceptions basically were the difference in this game. I'm not hating on him, he is what he is...

and without his throws we arent in the game to begin with, so whats your point?

[BillsWin]

I would re-sign Fitz... To groom our franchise guy next season.

[Bangarang]

Over 14K posts proves 1 thing,,,,,,,,you need a life.

14k posts over 8 years of being a member is a little less than 5 posts a day. Making 5 posts takes less than 15 minutes.
TOS violation

[PA Bills Fan]

14k posts over 8 years of being a member is a little less than 5 posts a day. Making 5 posts takes less than 15 minutes.

You're a moron.

And you're an TOS violation Mind your own effen business.

[TheBrownBear]

fitz is a young dude by qb standards. Not sure why so many fans want to give up on him. Get the defense fixed in two years and fitz will still ony be 29.

[mikemac2001]

he played alot better

as much as i want to see what brohm has

fitz doesnt deserve to lose this job because he is our most consistant player right now.

[Nighthawk]

he played alot better

as much as i want to see what brohm has

fitz doesnt deserve to lose this job because he is our most consistant player right now.

Can't argue that...the guy has played well.

[Michael82]

I would re-sign Fitz... To groom our franchise guy next season.
I agree! Fitzpatrick is a great backup. But that's all he will ever be. I still want a QB in the top 5 picks of the draft next year.

[Nighthawk]

I agree! Fitzpatrick is a great backup. But that's all he will ever be. I still want a QB in the top 5 picks of the draft next year.

If Gailey can help Fitz play this well, what can he do with a true, franchise QB???

[Michael82]

If Gailey can help Fitz play this well, what can he do with a true, franchise QB???
EXACTLY! :hi5:

[Forward_Lateral]

Well, the way Fitz played today, he looked like a franchise QB. I'm not saying his is one, or he isn't, but today he really showed something.

[Nighthawk]

Well, the way Fitz played today, he looked like a franchise QB. I'm not saying his is one, or he isn't, but today he really showed something.

Very true...but I'm not ready to say we are all set at the QB position just yet.

[Forward_Lateral]

Hell no. Even if they do thing they can win with Fitz, that's only going to be temporary. They still have to draft a QB in the upcoming draft, unless Fitz plays like this the rest of the season.

[Michael82]

BTW....I looked it up. Check out Ryan Fitzpatrick's stats in a game against the Houston Texans in 2005.

R. Fitzpatrick 19/30 for 310 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT, 63.3% completion percentage, 117.4 QB rating

Now compare it to today....

R. Fitzpatrick 29/43 for 374 yards, 4 TDs, 2 INT

[Buddo]

Fitz will never be a 'franchise' QB for the simple fact that he is too inconsistent/inaccurate, the combination of which is never going to win all the games you need to - particularly in the playoffs/SB run you hope to make. One bad game there, and you are toast.
Basically, Fitz attempts throws his arm isn't really up to. He gets away with it quite a bit, but not enough.
I think he has played admirably so far this year, and even if we draft a QB with a very high 1st round pick, wouldn't be too disconcerted to see him start next year, while the rookie develops. However, anyone who thinks he can take us to a SB, is sadly mistaken.
I also hope that they do retain Fitz, as he has proven he can make plays, and most of his decisions have been good ones, and a capable backup QB is a good thing.

[X-Era]

Fitz will never be a 'franchise' QB for the simple fact that he is too inconsistent/inaccurate, the combination of which is never going to win all the games you need to - particularly in the playoffs/SB run you hope to make. One bad game there, and you are toast.
Basically, Fitz attempts throws his arm isn't really up to. He gets away with it quite a bit, but not enough.
I think he has played admirably so far this year, and even if we draft a QB with a very high 1st round pick, wouldn't be too disconcerted to see him start next year, while the rookie develops. However, anyone who thinks he can take us to a SB, is sadly mistaken.
I also hope that they do retain Fitz, as he has proven he can make plays, and most of his decisions have been good ones, and a capable backup QB is a good thing.

:clap:

Fantastic post.

[zone]

Fitzpatrick shows some great talent, but none of that matters when you throw costly picks almost every game. I have never seen anything like it. Sure he makes some great throws and has a few TD's now and then, but those picks just cancel all of it out.


See Favre, it worked out ok for him...

[Michael82]

Fitz will never be a 'franchise' QB for the simple fact that he is too inconsistent/inaccurate, the combination of which is never going to win all the games you need to - particularly in the playoffs/SB run you hope to make. One bad game there, and you are toast.
Basically, Fitz attempts throws his arm isn't really up to. He gets away with it quite a bit, but not enough.
I think he has played admirably so far this year, and even if we draft a QB with a very high 1st round pick, wouldn't be too disconcerted to see him start next year, while the rookie develops. However, anyone who thinks he can take us to a SB, is sadly mistaken.
I also hope that they do retain Fitz, as he has proven he can make plays, and most of his decisions have been good ones, and a capable backup QB is a good thing.
Well said! :bf1:

[Buffalo Thriller]

Favre is a dime a dozen. Comparing Fitz to Favre is like Ray Lewis to Poz

[zone]

You said you have never seen anything like it, I was simply stating an example. Do you disagree that Favre shows great talent but throws costly picks almost every game?

[Buffalo Thriller]

Favre has been in the league longer then I have been alive. He doesnt have to show he has great talent. He has earned that much.

[Forward_Lateral]

BTW....I looked it up. Check out Ryan Fitzpatrick's stats in a game against the Houston Texans in 2005.

R. Fitzpatrick 19/30 for 310 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT, 63.3% completion percentage, 117.4 QB rating

Now compare it to today....

R. Fitzpatrick 29/43 for 374 yards, 4 TDs, 2 INT

What on earth does this have to do with anything, Michael?

[Mr. Pink]

WTF are you talking about?

Wrong time to talk QB. Fitz is the best QB we have had since 2002, he may even be better than Bledsoe was.


Bledsoe is a borderline HOFer. Fitzpatrick is a journeyman.

End of discussion.

[Forward_Lateral]

Bledsoe is a borderline HOFer. Fitzpatrick is a journeyman.

End of discussion.

Warner was a journeyman too. So was Delhomme. So was Hasselback. So was Rich Gannon.

I can go on and on. Just because a QB hasn't done anything impressive in the NFL, doesn't always mean they won't be a good QB in the future.

[Syderick]

Bledsoe is a borderline HOFer. Fitzpatrick is a journeyman.

End of discussion.

LOL far from it actually.

[Mr. Pink]

LOL far from it actually.


Far from it? Have you seen his career numbers? He's been to 2 superbowls, won one, yes he was on the bench for that game but if not for Bledsoe the Pats don't beat the Steelers to get to that SB.

44,611 yards, 251 TDs..more TDs than INTs.

4 time probowler.

Teams won more of his starts than lost.

[Syderick]

Far from it? Have you seen his career numbers? He's been to 2 superbowls, won one, yes he was on the bench for that game but if not for Bledsoe the Pats don't beat the Steelers to get to that SB.

44,611 yards, 251 TDs..more TDs than INTs.

4 time probowler.

Teams won more of his starts than lost.

By your standards then Dave Krieg, Boomer Esiason and Vinnie Testeverde should be HOFers too. As well as Drew lost his starting job 3 times.

[djjimkelly]

if fitz had any accuracy he'd be the best QB in the league.

and if u had a 12 incher ud be john holmes

[Spiderweb]

With solid defense Fitz would have won 3 out of his 4 starts, no ifs ands or buts.


3 of 4 uh? If i recall correctly, and I do, Fitz two late picks against the Pats sealed the deal for the Pats, and his two more this past Sunday were also huge in game that was an offensive (almost old AFL style) shootout.

Sure, our D has been horrible, but as well as Fitz has played in stretches, he still seems to throw the costly pick, the wildly inaccurate throw at key moments.

I like the guy, but he simply isn't consistently accurate. The WR's do seem to make plays for him. I guess mainly because he at least will throw it to them, unlike he who shall remain nameless.

[Mr. Pink]

By your standards then Dave Krieg, Boomer Esiason and Vinnie Testeverde should be HOFers too. As well as Drew lost his starting job 3 times.


Compare their numbers with Jim Kelly...they're not all that far different.

The only difference Kelly has is he went to 4 superbowls.