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  • baalworship
    Registered User
    • May 2003
    • 1641

    For Draftboy and college football fans

    Who is the best defensive player in this draft? Adrian Clayborne? Robert Quinn?

    I still lean towards Luck if he comes out but if he doesn't I want to know which defensive players will be stars at the next level. It's my understanding that Clayborne would be a DE in our scheme and Quinn is a DE who would play OLB in the 3-4.
  • DesertFox24
    Registered User
    • Jul 2005
    • 2129

    #2
    Re: For Draftboy and college football fans

    Quinn scares me but he does have freakish ability and could be a bigger faster Merriman.

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    • hydro
      Registered User
      • Oct 2005
      • 20160

      #3
      Re: For Draftboy and college football fans

      Greg Jones even? As a ILB?
      BERNIAC!

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      • baalworship
        Registered User
        • May 2003
        • 1641

        #4
        Re: For Draftboy and college football fans

        Yeah I heard Quinn ran a 4.38 40!

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        • baalworship
          Registered User
          • May 2003
          • 1641

          #5
          Re: For Draftboy and college football fans

          Originally posted by hydrosmak
          Greg Jones even? As a ILB?

          Unless he's the next Ray Lewis we should be looking for pass rushing linebackers, Nose Tackles, and 3-4 defensive ends.

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          • Pinkerton Security
            Pinkerton's son
            • Feb 2006
            • 6003

            #6
            Re: For Draftboy and college football fans

            Originally posted by baalworship
            Unless he's the next Ray Lewis we should be looking for pass rushing linebackers, Nose Tackles, and 3-4 defensive ends.
            I do not want to draft a 3-4 end with our first pick. They are not playmakers and are more easily found because their main task is to hold the edge and occupy blockers. I'd be more fond of a pass rushing LB like you said, and Id take a DT but are there any studs at that position? And if there is more an ILB who also happens to be a complete stud a la Patrick Willis, I'd go there as well.

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            • baalworship
              Registered User
              • May 2003
              • 1641

              #7
              Re: For Draftboy and college football fans

              Originally posted by pinkdogg32
              I do not want to draft a 3-4 end with our first pick. They are not playmakers and are more easily found because their main task is to hold the edge and occupy blockers. I'd be more fond of a pass rushing LB like you said, and Id take a DT but are there any studs at that position? And if there is more an ILB who also happens to be a complete stud a la Patrick Willis, I'd go there as well.

              Some 3-4 defensive ends are playmakers. Bruce Smith and Richard Seymour (the younger version) were amazing difference makers.

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              • T-Long
                Circling the Wagons since 1982.
                • Sep 2003
                • 3848

                #8
                Re: For Draftboy and college football fans

                I saw Clayborn play and that guy is a beast. Never saw Quinn play, but I'm sure he's just as good or better. I still say they need to go QB with the pick, no matter what talent is there on defense. Now, if we find a way to win a few games, that could change.

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                • BidsJr
                  Registered User
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 2858

                  #9
                  Re: For Draftboy and college football fans

                  Originally posted by baalworship
                  Who is the best defensive player in this draft? Adrian Clayborne? Robert Quinn?

                  I still lean towards Luck if he comes out but if he doesn't I want to know which defensive players will be stars at the next level. It's my understanding that Clayborne would be a DE in our scheme and Quinn is a DE who would play OLB in the 3-4.
                  To be honest as a Hawkeye fan, I might rather take Christian Ballard in the 2nd round before I would spend a top 5 pick on Clayborn. I love Clayborn, but with a top 1-5 pick I want someone who can be a franchise difference maker and while I think Adrian will be a solid player........ I am not sure he will be a game changer in the NFL.
                  "Well I drink too much and get punched in the head by fighters for fun, so my memory isn't so great." -OpIv37

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                  • DraftBoy
                    Administrator
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 107443

                    #10
                    Re: For Draftboy and college football fans

                    It's Clayborn and it's not that close. Peterson, Jones, Quinn, Dareus, and Bowers are all behind him.
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                    • Mahdi
                      Registered User
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 10585

                      #11
                      Re: For Draftboy and college football fans

                      Marcell Dareus could end up being next year's Gerald McCoy/Suh. Top notch DL prospect with scheme versatility.

                      Dareus can be a 4-3 3-technique or a 3-4 DE. It would not be the flashy choice but it would help this defense.

                      The next choice would have to be Quinn because this team needs a dominant pass rusher.

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                      • Mahdi
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 10585

                        #12
                        Re: For Draftboy and college football fans

                        Originally posted by DraftBoy
                        It's Clayborn and it's not that close. Peterson, Jones, Quinn, Dareus, and Bowers are all behind him.
                        Calyborn is a solid all-around football player. He could definitely be the best overall defensive player. 3-4 teams will have to decide who they feel is the better 3-4 DE prospect between him and Dareus though because I don't think he is rush 3-4 OLB material. Not quick enough.

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                        • Pinkerton Security
                          Pinkerton's son
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 6003

                          #13
                          Re: For Draftboy and college football fans

                          Originally posted by baalworship
                          Some 3-4 defensive ends are playmakers. Bruce Smith and Richard Seymour (the younger version) were amazing difference makers.
                          true but then we have guys like Tyson Jackson who was picked 3rd overall and just isnt an impact player to me. I know we probably need one but with what is probably going to be a top 5 pick, i just personally would rather have a DT or LB.

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                          • tampabay25690
                            Registered User
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 9670

                            #14
                            Re: For Draftboy and college football fans

                            Originally posted by Mahdi
                            Marcell Dareus could end up being next year's Gerald McCoy/Suh. Top notch DL prospect with scheme versatility.

                            Dareus can be a 4-3 3-technique or a 3-4 DE. It would not be the flashy choice but it would help this defense.

                            The next choice would have to be Quinn because this team needs a dominant pass rusher.
                            Have u seen McCoy play yet??? Don't even put Suh in the same breath as McCoy yet. Troup has looked better then McCoy in this young season. They are already talking about putting McCoy at the E spot in a 4-3 because he is being overmatched.....

                            I do like Dareus though.
                            Last edited by tampabay25690; 10-25-2010, 01:28 PM.
                            GO Gators!!!!!!
                            GO GATORS!!

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                            • Mahdi
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 10585

                              #15
                              Re: For Draftboy and college football fans

                              Originally posted by tampabay25690
                              Have u seen McCoy play yet??? Don't even put Suh in the same breath as McCoy yet. Troup has looked better then McCoy in this young season. They are already talking about putting McCoy at the E spot in a 4-3 because he is being overmatched.....

                              I do like Dareus though.
                              I'm talking about pre-draft. Before the draft McCoy was considered on par with Suh and some even had him ahead of Suh. The guy has played NFL football for 2 months. I think he will get stronger over the offseason and be more effective as a sophomore.

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