When you think of the '90's Bills

[imbondz]

Do you think we were a great defensive team first, or great offensive team first? What do you think of first? you can't say both either.

[DraftBoy]

Re: When you think of the '90's Bills

As much as I love Kelly and the K-Gun for me it will always be a defense first team.

[imbondz]

Re: When you think of the '90's Bills

me too. I always think the identity of that team was Bruce Smith/defense.

just wondering what the identity of the Bills are overall from us fans. or if that can even be specific. Like the Ravens are obviously a defensive minded organization first. Colts offensive. Chargers offensive. Steelers defense. etc... I know it can change, but overall...

[Nighthawk]

Re: When you think of the '90's Bills

I don't know, I feel the team was a better offensive team. I always felt that our defense underachieved and never had a good DC to help get the best out of them. Walt Corey was a trainwreck as a DC and was the master of that crappy "bend but don't break" defense.

[trapezeus]

Re: When you think of the '90's Bills

exactly. look at that san fran game, no punts, 1000 yards in total offense.

the k gun blew out teams and kept them in games.

that last year with the bend but don't break only worked because henry jones was an INT machine. bend but don't break relies on the unreliable turnover. when you don't get the turnovers, you get the 2010 bills.

[OpIv37]

Re: When you think of the '90's Bills

I always thought of it as an offensive first team.

Don't get me wrong- Bruce is my favorite player of all time and that D was full of bad- asses like Bruce, Talley and Biscuit. But the D was successful at least partially because the O always scored points and forced teams to pass. The O drove the success of those early 90's teams.

[Novacane]

Re: When you think of the '90's Bills

It was an offensive team first. The Bills never had a dominating defense. They had a dominating defensive player. The offense was always top 5 during the super bowl years. The defense was near the bottom of the league 1 year if I remember right.

[TheBrownBear]

Re: When you think of the '90's Bills

Our great run was established on the defensive side of the ball, but we really hit our stride when the offense caught up to and surpassed the defense.

'86-'90 - Defense
'90 (postseason)-'92 - Offense
'93-'96 - Defense

The real answer, and the one you won't allow us to give, is that those Bills teams actually had great balance. The only real weakness I remember was we never had dangerous punt or kick returners.

[JCBills]

Re: When you think of the '90's Bills

Offense first. Kelly conducted an orchestra on the field.

[Dr. Taylor Zaius]

Re: When you think of the '90's Bills

Offense: Kelly, Thomas, Reed---'nuff said *****

[mayotm]

Re: When you think of the '90's Bills

I always thought of it as an offensive first team.

Don't get me wrong- Bruce is my favorite player of all time and that D was full of bad- asses like Bruce, Talley and Biscuit. But the D was successful at least partially because the O always scored points and forced teams to pass. The O drove the success of those early 90's teams.

Agreed. To an extent, the offense really helped Bruce. The Bills were playing with big leads a lot of the time. This forced teams to abandon the run allowing Bruce to just focus on getting to the QB.

[T-Long]

Re: When you think of the '90's Bills

Kelly and the boys were the real face of this franchise in the 90's. Did the defensive have great players? Absolutely. But if I had to choose one side of the ball, the offense wins hands down.

[GreedoII]

Re: When you think of the '90's Bills

The defense wasn't really ranked high in the stats category. They were great beacuse they were stingy against the run/sacked the qb and created turnovers. They were real good in the red zone as well.

[Philagape]

Re: When you think of the '90's Bills

Why can't one say both? It's just as realistic an option as one or the other. That's just having a debate for the sake of a debate instead of actually talking about that team.

[imbondz]

Re: When you think of the '90's Bills

Why can't one say both? It's just as realistic an option as one or the other. That's just having a debate for the sake of a debate instead of actually talking about that team.

I guess I'm more wondering what the overall identity of the Bills organization is to us fans today. And I think the '90's teams are what established that identity. Just wondering what we think that is.

I think the '90's teams were both to an extent, but for me, it was always the offense that let us down ultimately.