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Gibran Chandan
11-02-2010, 06:26 AM
Call me crazy, but after thinking about it, I think I'd rather see us go 0-16 than 1-15 or 2-14. I mean...if we're going to have an absolutely appalling record, I think I'd rather see it be as utterly awful as possible than to see a couple of tiny little whimpers on the stats. a 1-15 season eventually slips people's minds, but go 0-16 and we'll be the team to talk about!

tampabay25690
11-02-2010, 06:30 AM
1 or 2 wins would be 100XXXX better then 0-16...
0-16 is just plain out bad and laughable....

Dont think I can handle all my customer talking about us 0-16 all year.......
UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

OpIv37
11-02-2010, 06:30 AM
1-15, with the one win being over the Pats.

Johnny Bugmenot
11-02-2010, 06:32 AM
In terms of draft position, I'm with you. Get in the best position to nab the best player available. Of course, I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority here.

Jan Reimers
11-02-2010, 06:44 AM
The team plays to win, and as a fan, I root for them to win every game. I want them to win as many as they can. Why would a fan hope his or her team loses?

Wishing for 0-16, either for notoriety, or to get a higher draft pick, goes against every instinct that I have.

OpIv37
11-02-2010, 06:47 AM
The team plays to win, and as a fan, I root for them to win every game. I want them to win as many as they can. Why would a fan hope his or her team loses?

Wishing for 0-16, either for notoriety, or to get a higher draft pick, goes against every instinct that I have.

Again, food for thought:

I understand that a fan, by definition, is someone who wants the team to win games. But if we win 2 or 3 or 4 games, that might cost us the "QB of the future" or some other great player, which will just lead to fewer wins in the future. Is it really worth the immediate gratification of a couple of meaningless wins to potentially sacrifice wins in the future when we could potentially make the playoffs?

I don't think there is a right answer to that question- just throwing it out there for discussion.

Jan Reimers
11-02-2010, 07:08 AM
Again, food for thought:

I understand that a fan, by definition, is someone who wants the team to win games. But if we win 2 or 3 or 4 games, that might cost us the "QB of the future" or some other great player, which will just lead to fewer wins in the future. Is it really worth the immediate gratification of a couple of meaningless wins to potentially sacrifice wins in the future when we could potentially make the playoffs?

I don't think there is a right answer to that question- just throwing it out there for discussion.
I understand the concept. However, there is no assurance that no matter where we pick, we won't take Richie Lucas, Walt Patulski, Erik Flowers or Mike Williams.

And personally, I am incapable of rooting for the Bills to lose.

Night Train
11-02-2010, 07:13 AM
I'd rather try to win every week and let the chips fall where they may.

This just in... The Draft is NOT an exact science, as the Bills have proven for years.

OpIv37
11-02-2010, 07:13 AM
I understand the concept. However, there is no assurance that no matter where we pick, we won't take Richie Lucas, Walt Patulski, Erik Flowers or Mike Williams.

And personally, I am incapable of rooting for the Bills to lose.

Good point on the draft picks.

And I don't think it's a matter of actually rooting for them to lose as it is being less upset when they do. Even in our 7-9 seasons, I would get pissed after a loss because we still had an outside shot at the playoffs. Now, I'd describe my feelings after a loss as "begrudging acceptance of an inevitable outcome." It's hard to get emotional about it when the only real difference it makes is draft order.

psubills62
11-02-2010, 08:03 AM
Unfortunately, I feel the possibilities may end up being: 1) go 0-16, or 2) lose out on the #1 draft pick. I have a feeling Carolina will have a 1-15 record and a worse SOS. Depending on the draft after/during a lockout, we will almost definitely miss out on Luck.

That being said, I will continue to stand by the statement that I first made a while back: it's not where you draft, it's who you draft.

Pinkerton Security
11-02-2010, 08:07 AM
idk how anyone could EVER be happy with 0-16....its embarrassing.

bosshogg21
11-02-2010, 08:09 AM
Unfortunately, I feel the possibilities may end up being: 1) go 0-16, or 2) lose out on the #1 draft pick. I have a feeling Carolina will have a 1-15 record and a worse SOS. Depending on the draft after/during a lockout, we will almost definitely miss out on Luck.

That being said, I will continue to stand by the statement that I first made a while back: it's not where you draft, it's who you draft.


So after drafting 2 qbs clausen, and pike last year and also having matt Moore, you think Carolina definitely goes with luck?? I'm not so sure. I think they might trade down with someone who would take them.

THRILLHO
11-02-2010, 08:12 AM
Finish this statement:

"You play to __________________."

dannyek71
11-02-2010, 08:21 AM
Wishing for 0-16 means wishing we loose to the Pats. This goes against EVERYTHING I stand for.

psubills62
11-02-2010, 08:27 AM
So after drafting 2 qbs clausen, and pike last year and also having matt Moore, you think Carolina definitely goes with luck?? I'm not so sure. I think they might trade down with someone who would take them.

As Ingtar has said before...have you seen any of those guys play? I guarantee they'd take Luck if they got the #1 pick and he entered the draft.

RockStar36
11-02-2010, 08:31 AM
No way.

I root for them to win every week because I hate the thought of 0-16. After that one win though, I'm ambivalent to the situation. I want the #1 pick.

trapezeus
11-02-2010, 08:35 AM
I just want entertaining games. and if we lose, i take some comfort that we have the very top pick overall. it's so much better than the last three years of seeing a season slip away but still mathematically being in it and watching boring game after boring game.

These last two weeks, you saw teams scared and confused. You saw the bills do somethings that winners do but ultimately fall short. and when the game is over, you give the "aw shucks" arm movement, and then say, "we're still the top pick."

Nublar7
11-02-2010, 08:37 AM
In a few years people will forget a 1-15 or 2-14 season. An 0-16 season is historic and will last forever.

Much better to be 1-15, than 0-16.

imbondz
11-02-2010, 08:48 AM
I already read an article saying the Bills are entrenched as the new Detroit Lions and it pissed me off. So no, I would be beyond sad and angry if we finish 0-16. You can't be a real fan if you think that's ok.

kelly2reed4six
11-02-2010, 08:52 AM
2-14

win against the pats and jets....

kelly2reed4six
11-02-2010, 08:52 AM
In a few years people will forget a 1-15 or 2-14 season. An 0-16 season is historic and will last forever.

Much better to be 1-15, than 0-16.

If we go 0-16 its not really that historic anymore since another team has done it.

mrbojanglezs
11-02-2010, 08:53 AM
the only reason why I want 0-16 is cuz there are so many bad teams this year, and we lose the tiebreaker to ALL OF THEM, we can't tie with a team

T-Long
11-02-2010, 09:53 AM
I want the #1 overall pick, but I can't root against them. So, even if we win a game or two, I want to still stay in position for the 1st pick of the litter.

Cntrygal
11-02-2010, 11:04 AM
No.

Bangarang
11-02-2010, 11:08 AM
I want to win enough games to still be able to get the #1 draft pick. We have the toughest SOS in the league right now, so that may come to bite us in the ass if we have the same record as a team like the Panthers.

Joe Fo Sho
11-02-2010, 11:21 AM
As of this week, I'm rooting for 8-8.

psubills62
11-02-2010, 11:22 AM
Oh, and to clarify my position: I always want to win. There's no way I want this team to go 0-16, even if that's the only way to guarantee the top overall draft pick.

That being said, what we, the fans, want to happen doesn't really count for anything, does it?

Jeff1220
11-02-2010, 11:46 AM
Being remembered for 0-16 is not a good thing. A season this bad should be forgotten.
I really want to see this team get better every week and generate a little buzz at the end of the season w/a few wins to be more attractive to players and staff.