What Cities Covet an NFL Team ?

[Dr. Taylor Zaius]

Los Angeles (maybe)
Toronto
San Antonio
Oklahoma City
Memphis
Birmingham
Norfolk
Portland

Am I missing anyone?:question:

[Mr. Pink]

The NFL wants LA for the Television market.

Unsure how much people in LA actually want it.

[RockStar36]

I don't think the people in LA or Toronto really want a team to be honest.

[Dr. Taylor Zaius]

The NFL wants LA for the Television market.

Unsure how much people in LA actually want it.
That's pretty much my take on LA.

[RockStar36]

Goodell keeps talking about a team overseas, but that is about as asinine as an idea can get.

[Mr. Pink]

Goodell keeps talking about a team overseas, but that is about as asinine as an idea can get.


Travel time for that team on road games would be ridiculous and outright stupid.

[k-oneputt]

Travel time for that team on road games would be ridiculous and outright stupid.

That's not happening.


As noted, the LA market is all about the telvision. Biggest front running city in the country.

[Dr. Taylor Zaius]

Goodell keeps talking about a team overseas, but that is about as asinine as an idea can get.
I completely agree. Mexico is a BAD idea as well.:list:

[TacklingDummy]

Tulsa

[Dr. Taylor Zaius]

Tulsa
I think if Oklahoma gets a team, it'll be OKC, not Tulsa. Near the OU hotbed.:drive:

[Dr. Lecter]

Buffalo

[mrbojanglezs]

does Cali really need 4 teams? just move one of the Cali teams to LA like either oakland or san diego

[Dr. Taylor Zaius]

does Cali really need 4 teams? just move one of the Cali teams to LA like either oakland or san diego
Doesn't Al Davis want to return to LA?:crazy:

[thejosh213]

I live in Memphis, you can pretty much take Memphis off the list. Whenever the oilers came here, they didn't do so well financially. This is college basketball country. Heck I hear the nba is thinking detraction with Memphis being one

[Extremebillsfan247]

Los Angeles (maybe)
Toronto
San Antonio
Oklahoma City
Memphis
Birmingham
Norfolk
Portland

Am I missing anyone?:question: Monterrey, Mexico.

[Buffalo Thriller]

Alabama is college country. Scratch Birmingham.

[BertSquirtgum]

Goodell keeps talking about a team overseas, but that is about as asinine as an idea can get.

indeed, teams have enough trouble traveling from coast to coast. i can't imagine loosing an entire day.

[G Wolly]

indeed, teams have enough trouble traveling from coast to coast. i can't imagine loosing an entire day.

Plus, stick with me on this one, it wouldn't be a "National" but "International" Football League.

[TheGhostofJimKelly]

Vegas?

[YardRat]

Buffalo

Wow. A softball dead-center over the plate and Lecter's the only one to take a swing.

[Beebe's Kid]

Buffalo
Give it up for Dr. Lecter, everybody!!!! He'll be around tomorrow and Sunday, please remember to try the veal!

Seriously ****** Buffalo loves the Bills ****** we, clearly, covet them if they feed us **** sandwich after **** sandwich and we don't walk away *********

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There are several cities that do not support the team they have. This area needs to quit with the paranoid delusion that the rest of the country is talking about us, and that they want to take everything that we have. It is absurd. It makes it more of a joke.

Take the **** about the weather from, of all ****ing people in the world, Bruce Mathison... if we didn't like the weather, we'd move. I like 4 seasons...winter gets a little long, and I love summer, but we get a little diversity, which is not a bad thing. I love the spring and fall...maybe even more than summer itself. If I didn't...I'd pack my **** and move. Everytime somebody comments on the weather, which is a dumb ****ing argument, we get offended?

The only thing working against our team is the uncertainty of it's owner. If we knew that Kelly, by some miracle, really had buyers that were writing checks...we wouldn't worry as much. What this team needs is the ownership to want them in Buffalo...and if there is an owner that intends to move, it may be harder than imagined to get that to go through.

Look what KC did to Arrowhead..that is what we need to do to the Ralph. Gus Johnson was on wood talking about it, and KC spent 300 mill on a total upgrade...that sure sounds better than 1 bill on the Jerrah Center.

What cities "covet" an NFL team??? Who wouldn't? The income from it alone has to be staggering to the businesses in the immediate area.

I don't know...maybe we should just talk about wearing the throwbacks or something...talk about moving always brings me down.

[Oldbillsfan]

What are the Chargers going to end up doing?

[BertSquirtgum]

the chargers have a better chance of being moved to L.A. than the Bills.

[YardRat]

LA's already lost three NFL teams...Even if they were stupid enough put another one there, they wouldn't last more than 10-15 years...again.

[Bravo82]

No mention of Vegas? Clown :clown:

[Johnny Bugmenot]

Raleigh. If any other city than Toronto gets the Bills, it'll be Raleigh-- on the sole reasoning that they support the Hurricanes and they have a huge upstate NY diaspora out there.

Vegas-- the NFL hates Vegas. Never gonna happen.

Birmingham-- every team that's ever played in that city has started off strong, then when it had to go against college teams, imploded. Again, not gonna happen.

Memphis-- tried, failed. Less than 35,000 fans a game in 1997. Not gonna happen.

San Antonio, Oklahoma... plausible, particularly in the case of the former.

LA... there were a lot of reasons behind the Rams and Raiders leaving at the same time, including competition and the earthquake. One team could easily gain enough support to succeed in that market, especially now that USC has sanctions on it for a while.

Any city in Mexico... there's big support down there, so it'd be very hard to dismiss them offhand. The border issues, however, would be the most obvious problem.

Norfolk and Portland... I don't think quite yet, mainly because they don't have a 60,000-seat stadium ready.

[TacklingDummy]

I think if Oklahoma gets a team, it'll be OKC, not Tulsa. Near the OU hotbed.:drive:
You didn't get the Tulsa joke. A few years ago there was a entertaining poster here named Ice and he was from Tulsa.

[Dr. Taylor Zaius]

Monterrey, Mexico.
Yuck:crazy:

[Dr. Taylor Zaius]

You didn't get the Tulsa joke. A few years ago there was a entertaining poster here named Ice and he was from Tulsa.
Oh, I see.:peace:

[SABURZFAN]

Los Angeles (maybe)
Toronto
San Antonio
Oklahoma City
Memphis
Birmingham
Norfolk
Portland

Am I missing anyone?:question:


Las Vegas would like one.

[lordofgun]

Norfolk? I don't think so. Mainly because no one is from Norfolk. The only people in Norfolk are military, and they're usually there for a short time.

Also, it's too close to DC.

[DANMAN]

The NFL seems very interested in London England. The games sell out there and it gives them a European presence since the demise of NFL Europe.

As far as LA is concerned they should move the Chargers or the Raiders there when they finally get a new stadium built. It won't take long for whatever team they put there to be playing to half empty seats. I just don't believe that LA has fan interest or the passion for pro football.

[Buffalo Thriller]

The NFL seems very interested in London England. The games sell out there and it gives them a European presence since the demise of NFL Europe.

As far as LA is concerned they should move the Chargers or the Raiders there when they finally get a new stadium built. It won't take long for whatever team they put there to be playing to half empty seats. I just don't believe that LA has fan interest or the passion for pro football.

NFL Europe will piss me off quite frankly.

[Johnny Bugmenot]

The NFL seems very interested in London England. The games sell out there and it gives them a European presence since the demise of NFL Europe.
They've also consistently sold out games in Mexico-- in much larger stadiums over 100,000 strong. You'd think they'd prefer to stay on the continent first.

[Buffalo Thriller]

How many of you would follow Buffalo if they move... Depending on where it may be a tough decision.

[Johnny Bugmenot]

LA's already lost three NFL teams...Even if they were stupid enough put another one there, they wouldn't last more than 10-15 years...again.
The same thing could be said about Cleveland:

Tigers (1920-1921)-- folded
Bulldogs (1923-1927)-- moved to Detroit
Indians (1931)-- folded
Rams (1937-1945)-- moved to L.A.
Browns (1950-1995)-- moved to Baltimore
Browns II (1999-present)

Not counting non-NFL years.

The Browns market is, and has been, probably among the worst in the NFL, yet the league keeps putting teams there.

[Mr. Pink]

The same thing could be said about Cleveland:

Tigers (1920-1921)-- folded
Bulldogs (1923-1927)-- moved to Detroit
Indians (1931)-- folded
Rams (1937-1945)-- moved to L.A.
Browns (1950-1995)-- moved to Baltimore
Browns II (1999-present)

Not counting non-NFL years.

The Browns market is, and has been, probably among the worst in the NFL, yet the league keeps putting teams there.


Wow? The Browns market is among the worst in the NFL?

You're so off base it's not even funny.

[Johnny Bugmenot]

Wow? The Browns market is among the worst in the NFL?

You're so off base it's not even funny.

The Browns have the lowest average ticket prices in the league, below even the Bills and Jaguars, and are one of the few teams who don't offer a $100 ticket:
http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/article34177.ece
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2010-05-11-ticket-prices-mainbar_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip

[Novacane]

How many of you would follow Buffalo if they move... Depending on where it may be a tough decision.



What do you mean by follow? There are very few here who would root for them. Most would follow a team that used to be ours.

[Dr. Taylor Zaius]

Norfolk? I don't think so. Mainly because no one is from Norfolk. The only people in Norfolk are military, and they're usually there for a short time.

Also, it's too close to DC.
??? Tons of people in that area & certainly NOT all military. Three hours or more from DC.:air:

[better days]

??? Tons of people in that area & certainly NOT all military. Three hours or more from DC.:air:

My son-inlaw was stationed there a couple years while in the Navy. I have been there visiting them a few times. It is very much a military town & Redskin territory as well.

Snyder would never want an NFL team there, much like Jones would not want another team in Texas.

[Dr. Taylor Zaius]

My son-inlaw was stationed there a couple years while in the Navy. I have been there visiting them a few times. It is very much a military town & Redskin territory as well.

Snyder would never want an NFL team there, much like Jones would not want another team in Texas.
The Ravens & Redskins are pretty close together. LOL:clap:

[Dr. Taylor Zaius]

My son-inlaw was stationed there a couple years while in the Navy. I have been there visiting them a few times. It is very much a military town & Redskin territory as well.

Snyder would never want an NFL team there, much like Jones would not want another team in Texas.
It's not JUST Norfolk itself. There's VA Beach, Portsmouth, Chesapeake, Suffolk, Hampton, Newport News, etc. Heck, Richmond is only 80 miles away.:air:

[YardRat]

The same thing could be said about Cleveland:

Tigers (1920-1921)-- folded
Bulldogs (1923-1927)-- moved to Detroit
Indians (1931)-- folded
Rams (1937-1945)-- moved to L.A.
Browns (1950-1995)-- moved to Baltimore
Browns II (1999-present)

Not counting non-NFL years.

The Browns market is, and has been, probably among the worst in the NFL, yet the league keeps putting teams there.

I stuck to 'modern day' NFL teams...if you want to include pre-NFL and others, for LA there are...

Professional Football Teams in Los Angeles
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in Los Angeles</td> <td align="center" bgcolor="#ccffff" width="279">League</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184">Los Angeles Buccaneers</td> <td align="center" width="185">1926</td> <td align="center" width="279">National Football League</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184">Los Angeles Wildcats</td> <td align="center" width="185">1926</td> <td align="center" width="279">American Football League I*</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184"> California Shamrocks</td> <td align="center" width="185"> 1935-1935?</td> <td align="center" width="279">Pacific Coast Professional Football League</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184"> Hollywood Braves</td> <td align="center" width="185"> 1935-1935?</td> <td align="center" width="279">Pacific Coast Professional Football League</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184">Los Angeles (Southern California) Maroons</td> <td align="center" width="185"> 1935-1935?</td> <td align="center" width="279">Pacific Coast Professional Football League</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184"> Westwood Cubs</td> <td align="center" width="185"> 1935-1935?</td> <td align="center" width="279">Pacific Coast Professional Football League</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184"> Hollywood Stars</td> <td align="center" width="185"> 1936-1938</td> <td align="center" width="279"> California Pro Football League</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184">Los Angeles Bulldogs</td> <td align="center" width="185">1937</td> <td align="center" width="279">American Football League II*</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184">Los Angeles Bulldogs</td> <td align="center" width="185"> 1940-1945</td> <td align="center" width="279">Pacific Coast Professional Football League</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184"> Hollywood Bears</td> <td align="center" width="185"> 1940-1942, 1945</td> <td align="center" width="279">Pacific Coast Professional Football League</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184">Los Angeles Mustangs</td> <td align="center" width="185"> 1943-1944</td> <td align="center" width="279">Pacific Coast Professional Football League,
American Football League lll*</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184"> Hollywood Rangers</td> <td align="center" width="185">1944</td> <td align="center" width="279">American Football League lll*</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184">Los Angeles Wildcats</td> <td align="center" width="185">1944</td> <td align="center" width="279">American Football League lll*</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184"> Hollywood Wolves</td> <td align="center" width="185">1944</td> <td align="center" width="279">Pacific Coast Professional Football League</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184">Los Angeles Dons</td> <td align="center" width="185">1946-1949</td> <td align="center" width="279">All American Football Conference</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184">Los Angeles Rams¹</td> <td align="center" width="185">1947-1995</td> <td align="center" width="279">National Football League</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184">Los Angeles Chargers²</td> <td align="center" width="185">1960</td> <td align="center" width="279">American Football League lV*</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184">Long Beach Admirals</td> <td align="center" width="185">1967</td> <td align="center" width="279"> Continental Football League</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184">Los Angeles Express</td> <td align="center" width="185">1983-1985</td> <td align="center" width="279">United States Football League</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184">Los Angeles Raiders³</td> <td align="center" width="185">1982-1995</td> <td align="center" width="279">National Football League</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184">Los Angeles Cobras</td> <td align="center" width="185">1988</td> <td align="center" width="279">Arena Football League</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184">Los Angeles Dragons</td> <td align="center" width="185">2000</td> <td align="center" width="279">Spring Football League</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184">Los Angeles Avengers</td> <td align="center" width="185">2000-Present</td> <td align="center" width="279">Arena Football League</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" width="184">Los Angeles Xtreme</td> <td align="center" width="185">2001</td> <td align="center" width="279">X Football League</td></tr></tbody></table>

http://www.laalmanac.com/sports/sp02.htm

[Johnny Bugmenot]

The Ravens & Redskins are pretty close together. LOL:clap:
Exactly. Two teams in that vicinity is enough. Three is a crowd. Plus, you're getting awfully close to Carolina's territory, too.