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  • Forward_Lateral
    Registered User
    • Mar 2004
    • 29895

    Forked Thread: Comparing Fitz to current NFL QBs

    Forked from: Listening to WGR550 and Fan reaction

    Originally posted by Extremebillsfan247
    I'm all for giving credit where its due and Fitz is having a phenomenal year. But hearing people call into the Thurman Thomas Show trying to compare Fitz to QBs like Jim Kelly, and John Elway is bordering on ridiculous. I really like Fitz and what he is doing for this team, but we need to keep this in perspective and remember that this is still a 2-8 team at this point of the year. It was a fantastic game yesterday, no doubt about it, and being that there hasn't been much to cheer about with this team, I understand the excitement.

    But, when we start comparing Fitz to hall of fame QBs because he beat a bad Cincy team, we need to start examining where our heads are at. This team still has a way to go before they turn that corner to being competitive and this game hopefully is a sign that they are heading in the right direction. I'm just trying to say be a bit cautious about what your seeing here. JMO.
    I'd rather compare Fitz to the current NFL QBs:

    Id say he's CURRENTLY better than:

    Cambell, Cassel, Henne, Young/Collins, McCoy, Garrard, Hill/Stafford, Cutler, Smith (both), McNabb, all of Carolina and Arizona's rejects, Hasselbeck

    I'd say he's not better than:

    Brady, Sanchez, Rivers, Manning, Flacco, Palmer, Big Ben, Schaub, Ryan, Rodgers, Vick, Romo, Eli Manning, Brees

    I'm missing a few QBs, but I think you get my point. He's not a top tier QB, but he's also better than about half of the league.
    Last edited by Forward_Lateral; 11-22-2010, 01:23 PM.
  • Forward_Lateral
    Registered User
    • Mar 2004
    • 29895

    #2
    Re: Forked Thread: Comparing Fitz to current NFL QBs

    Also, thinking about it. There isn't really anyone that would conceivably become available that would be an upgrade over Fitz this offseason. Vick, maybe, but I doubt Philly lets him walk. McNabb? No thanks.

    The only possible available guys might be someone like Orton, or maybe Cincy decides to part ways with Carson Palmer (I doubt it, but you never know).

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    • Dr. Taylor Zaius
      Senior Zoner
      • Sep 2010
      • 805

      #3
      Re: Forked Thread: Comparing Fitz to current NFL QBs

      Yay! We have a middling QB.

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      • Forward_Lateral
        Registered User
        • Mar 2004
        • 29895

        #4
        Re: Forked Thread: Comparing Fitz to current NFL QBs

        Who did I miss, I can't think of the other 5 or so.

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        • RockStar36
          Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
          • Sep 2004
          • 24761

          #5
          Re: Forked Thread: Comparing Fitz to current NFL QBs

          Originally posted by Forward_Lateral
          Also, thinking about it. There isn't really anyone that would conceivably become available that would be an upgrade over Fitz this offseason. Vick, maybe, but I doubt Philly lets him walk. McNabb? No thanks.

          The only possible available guys might be someone like Orton, or maybe Cincy decides to part ways with Carson Palmer (I doubt it, but you never know).
          McNabb just signed an extension, not that there was any hope anyways.

          Kolb is the one guy that comes to mind if someone isn't there in the draft. I'd prefer to have him over any rookie not named Andrew Luck.

          D & S Sports



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          • Dr. Taylor Zaius
            Senior Zoner
            • Sep 2010
            • 805

            #6
            Re: Forked Thread: Comparing Fitz to current NFL QBs

            Originally posted by Forward_Lateral
            Also, thinking about it. There isn't really anyone that would conceivably become available that would be an upgrade over Fitz this offseason. Vick, maybe, but I doubt Philly lets him walk. McNabb? No thanks.

            The only possible available guys might be someone like Orton, or maybe Cincy decides to part ways with Carson Palmer (I doubt it, but you never know).
            A franchise QB is the way to go. Luck or Mallett, build through the draft. Fitz will be a fine backup which is where he belongs.

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            • Forward_Lateral
              Registered User
              • Mar 2004
              • 29895

              #7
              Re: Forked Thread: Comparing Fitz to current NFL QBs

              Originally posted by RockStar36
              McNabb just signed an extension, not that there was any hope anyways.

              Kolb is the one guy that comes to mind if someone isn't there in the draft. I'd prefer to have him over any rookie not named Andrew Luck.
              Kolb would fit nicely into this offense. He has good accuracy, and above avg arm strength. He does kind of remind me of Rob Johnson for some reason.

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              • Dr. Taylor Zaius
                Senior Zoner
                • Sep 2010
                • 805

                #8
                Re: Forked Thread: Comparing Fitz to current NFL QBs

                Originally posted by Forward_Lateral
                Kolb would fit nicely into this offense. He has good accuracy, and above avg arm strength. He does kind of remind me of Rob Johnson for some reason.
                Let's get out big time QB via the draft.......

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                • RockStar36
                  Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 24761

                  #9
                  Re: Forked Thread: Comparing Fitz to current NFL QBs

                  If the Bills are going to use a 2nd-4th round pick on a QB in the draft, I'd prefer to get Kolb for a similar price. Of course, this is all speculation because Philly might not wanna trade him. But Kolb is young enough, has some NFL experience, learned under Reid/McNabb/Vick, and can continue to learn under Fitz.

                  D & S Sports



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                  • JCBills
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 3631

                    #10
                    Re: Forked Thread: Comparing Fitz to current NFL QBs

                    Originally posted by Dr. Taylor Zaius
                    A franchise QB is the way to go. Luck or Mallett, build through the draft. Fitz will be a fine backup which is where he belongs.
                    It's hilarious how much the term "franchise QB" is used on here, and even funnier how you seem to think any early round QB = "franchise QB"

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                    • Mr. Pink
                      Peterman Sucks!
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 35303

                      #11
                      Re: Forked Thread: Comparing Fitz to current NFL QBs

                      Originally posted by Forward_Lateral
                      Who did I miss, I can't think of the other 5 or so.

                      Kyle Orton, Josh Freeman, Sam Bradford, Favre.

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                      • bluerosekiller
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 230

                        #12
                        Re: Forked Thread: Comparing Fitz to current NFL QBs

                        I say stick with Fitz & let's use the draft to get some stud defensive players & a developmental QB in the second or third round. Someone to groom for a couple/three years or so.

                        Fitz is just turning 28 years old. And with less than a year of coaching under a qb/offensive guru in Gailey, I believe it's more than likely that he hasn't reached his full potential or his prime yet. Not by a longshot.
                        Hell, he's only been the focus of Gailey's undevided attention for about two months now.
                        Fitz might also be a late bloomer who's still got a good amount of untapped potential as well.

                        Sure, the wheels could fall off next week for all we know, but with the steady improvement that we've seen from him & the way the team responds to him, I say sign him to a new deal during the offseason & keep him as our starter next for a the next couple of seasons while we build around him & groom a youngster to eventually take over for him somewhere down the line.

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                        • Forward_Lateral
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 29895

                          #13
                          Re: Forked Thread: Comparing Fitz to current NFL QBs

                          Originally posted by FunTimesYaY!
                          Kyle Orton, Josh Freeman, Sam Bradford, Favre.
                          I'd say he's no worse than Orton, Freeman and Bradford

                          He's playing a lot better than Favre, but what NFL QB isn't?

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