GDT: Vikings vs Bills

[TacklingDummy]

Go Bills

[Luisito23]

Yeah, GO BILLS!

[Cleve]

Let's do it, Bills!

[Dujek]

:gobills:

Kyle Williams is going to retire Brett Favre.

[YardRat]

:gobills: :beers:

[Bufftp]

Go Bills. Flatten Farve!

[YardRat]

Wood is out again, Spiller back in, according to the radio pre-game.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

go get him kyle williams!!!!!!!!


lets go buffalo!!!!!!!!!

[shelby]

:gobills:


Bills ready for trip to Minnesota

The storyline
Vikings players are talking about being still mathematically alive under Leslie Frazier, but a loss here would end all of that chatter. The Bills have nearly toppled several teams better than this particular opponent.
Why you should watch
No team in the NFL has suffered more improbable losses than the Bills. They play their butts off and are utterly enjoyable to watch (unless you root for them, I imagine). Brett Favre (http://www.nfl.com/players/brettfavre/profile?id=FAV540222) is entering the final month of his career. Sidney Rice (http://www.nfl.com/players/sidneyrice/profile?id=RIC161100) could be rounding more into form.
Did you know?
Bills running back Fred Jackson (http://www.nfl.com/players/fredjackson/profile?id=JAC173789) has a touchdown in his last four games. ... Buffalo's Ryan Fitzpatrick (http://www.nfl.com/players/ryanfitzpatrick/profile?id=FIT792915) has a touchdown pass in 12 consecutive games. ... Vikings defensive end Jared Allen has a sack in four straight games. ... Minnesota's Percy Harvin (http://www.nfl.com/players/percyharvin/profile?id=HAR829482) is the only player in the NFL this season with a rushing, recieiving and return touchdown.


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[Dujek]

Bills are 2-0 v teams with a losing record.

[SeatownBillsFan21]

Harvin is OUT bonus!!

[shelby]

Heading out to watch the game. i want to see Kyle Williams make Brett Farve wish he had stayed retired!

:gobills:

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

has there ever been a more pathetic thing in football than to watch a legend completly tarnish his legacy more then favre?

[Figster]

GO BUFFALO!!!!!

[hammerbillsfan]

Please give me a present on my birthday! :pray: :gobills:

[Beebe's Kid]

It's all on!!

[djjimkelly]

go bills lets be crazy competitive yet lose go draft pick

[djjimkelly]

they broke favre!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

[Mr. Pink]

Crushed that old man!

[djjimkelly]

arthur moats!!!!!!!!!1

[colin]

moats!!

[wmoz11]

That's pathetic. Why did he scramble right away when he had perfect protection?

[Dujek]

Good start for the defense. Favre running for his life and didn't make it.

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

farve is too damn old to handle the hits

[Dujek]

Favre taking a seat already.

[djjimkelly]

would be funny if a buffalo bill ended favres playing career

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Geez Moats nailed Favre, didnt see it earlier.

[Dujek]

Chris Kelsay making plays in the backfield. Is the Vikings o-line really that bad?

[Mr. Pink]

How does McKelvin allow Rice to come down with that ball?

[djjimkelly]

POZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Nice job Poz.

[djjimkelly]

and moats was right there too

buddys draft looks like its starting to come together

[wmoz11]

Moats is getting better and better. He's all over the place today.

[Dujek]

Moats Poz and Kelsay have come to play. Who'd have thought that?

[Dr. Lecter]

Kelsay has two tackles for a loss today already

[Scumbag College]

Moats Poz and Kelsay have come to play. Who'd have thought that?

All three made nice plays on that last drive.

[Scumbag College]

Nice grab by Stevie. I hope he can bounce back after last week. Big game for him today.

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Oh good Stevie caught this one.

[Scumbag College]

How is that not an incomplete pass?

[Mr. Pink]

Good challenge.

[Electrici]

Very good challenge, I agree. I thought it was a forward pass.

[Mr. Pink]

Very good challenge, I agree. I thought it was a forward pass.


I am unsure if his arm was going forward when the ball came out but it's close and you don't want to give them a free 3 points if you don't have to.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

sucks bell needs to always keep inside leverage and force the de outside...

[Dujek]

The arm was in a passing motion, but the ball came out sideways, could be called a fumble as a lateral pass.

[Falsedelatrue]

Anyone have a feed for this game? Justin.tv is terrible...

[Mr. Pink]

The arm was in a passing motion, but the ball came out sideways, could be called a fumble as a lateral pass.


That was the other thing I was wondering too.

Apparently it's all moot and it's incomplete.

[BADTHINGSMAN]

I am unsure if his arm was going forward when the ball came out but it's close and you don't want to give them a free 3 points if you don't have to.

I was unsure as well, didnt catch Fitz arm motion.

[Scumbag College]

It's going to be tough to run on the Vikings today. Big test for the offensive line today.

[Mr. Pink]

Why some stick um?!?

Ugh.

[Dr. Lecter]

Stevie, Stevie, Stevie

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Stevie, cmon you have to catch those.

[Scumbag College]

Stevie with a drop. ughhhhhhhh. That is frustrating. Great protection, great throw, hit him right in the hands.

[Electrici]

Johnson has a case of the dropsies.

[Dujek]

Dammit Stevie, hold onto the ball.

[Scumbag College]

All the drops last week have gotten in his head. I don't know if you can fix or undo that.

[Dr. Lecter]

Andnow Coleman is out.

I guess Maybust gets some more PT

[Scumbag College]

Flo pick 6!

[TheBrownBear]

huge drop...that was a perfect pass

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Florence pick six.

[Electrici]

Florence!!!!

[Scumbag College]

Bad pass by Jackson.

[Mr. Pink]

Drayton Florence has a good game in the first quarter!

[djjimkelly]

and thats why minnesota wanted favre back this year

jackson is not a qb

nice play by florence

[colin]

dreyaton!

[Dujek]

Florence has been brilliant the past 3 weeks.

[hammerbillsfan]

Pick 6! :dance2:

[BADTHINGSMAN]

and thats why minnesota wanted favre back this year

jackson is not a qb

nice play by florence


It is more entertaining watching Favre throw INT's.

[wmoz11]

House call. Beauty.

[Falsedelatrue]

Anyone have a feed for this game? Justin.tv is terrible...

[TheBrownBear]

this d is getting better under edwards

[Electrici]

Just wish the D could stop the run with some sort of consistency.

[BADTHINGSMAN]

McKelvin is getting picked on bad.

[colin]

leodis is getting eaten

[Mr. Pink]

That's a TD.

[Dr. Lecter]

How was that not offensive PI?

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Thats going to tie it up.

[Scumbag College]

I don't see how they can overturn that.

[wmoz11]

That was one of the worst cases of offensive PI I've ever seen go uncalled. It was great defense.

[Dr. Lecter]

That's a TD.
His body was in bounds, but shoulder was out. Not sure.

Should have been offensive PI anyway

[Electrici]

I'm not sure on this one. Tie goes to the offense, but possession might not have been made til both were out of bounds. Probably a TD though.

[Slim]

Offensive pass interference much? He hoped on Leo's back, Leo has as much right to the ball as Rice.

[Mr. Pink]

How was that not offensive PI?


Because Sidney Rice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leodis McKelvin.

Good receivers tend to get those calls go that way from time to time.

[colin]

That was one of the worst cases of offensive PI I've ever seen go uncalled. It was great defense.

they fuggin never call that

[kingJofNYC]

Leodis really doesn't jam anyone at the line, and still manages to run with the receiver. ****er needs to work on his technique.

[Mr. Pink]

His body was in bounds, but shoulder was out. Not sure.

Should have been offensive PI anyway


Both feet hit in bounds though.

[BADTHINGSMAN]

I don't see how they can overturn that.


The catch goes to the WR if its tie for ball, and nobody was out.

[Dr. Lecter]

Based on the replay that was right. Shame because that was good defense.

[Slim]

Apparently rape isn't pass interference.

[Dujek]

Dammit. Right call, but it's hard to take.

[THRILLHO]

Too bad you cant call penalties based on replays. What a bunch of bull on that offensive Pass int.

[Scumbag College]

The catch goes to the WR if its tie for ball, and nobody was out.

Yeah I know, just don't know how they can conclusively say that there was full possession before he went out of bounds.

[Scumbag College]

Fumble McLovin, he is an absolute disaster out there today.

[Dr. Lecter]

Crap

Wake up Leodis

[Mr. Pink]

Wow McKelvin.

Left that last play in his head on that return.

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Get Mckelvin out of returning duty.

[Slim]

Mcfumbles.

[Crisis]

WOW

leodis :faceplam:

[wmoz11]

What a **** up.

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

McSuckels

[psubills62]

That was pass interference all the way on Rice. Unbelievable.

[colin]

this guy is just killing us. horrible

[Beebe's Kid]

That's enough of him back there.

[Electrici]

I'm starting to think he should't be returning kicks. Since the first game last year.

[Crisis]

we're gonna be losing this game because of two players...on our own team

[Dujek]

See whoever it was called me on saying that fumbling the punt last week was "Typical McKelvin"? Well I want a ****ing apology right now.

[Mad Bomber]

McKelvin = GOAT

[Dr. Lecter]

Both feet hit in bounds though.
Idid not see that the first time

[Mr. Pink]

I want Patrick Peterson and I want McKelvin cut.

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

bench mckelvin NOW

[Dr. Lecter]

****. Now they are calling that??

[Dr. Lecter]

So he fights off Berrians push off and that is PI?

[baalworship]

McKelvin is a joke.

[Beebe's Kid]

Give him the rest of the day off.

[Crisis]

So he fights off Berrians push off and that is PI?

he was clearly holding his arm the entire time..

[Scumbag College]

Nice, McKelvin with a pass interference at the goal line on third down. I hate to say it but he's turning into another wasted first round pick. He has been the weak link of the defense the past few weeks. That's saying alot with the linebackers on the team.

[BADTHINGSMAN]

I want Patrick Peterson and I want McKelvin cut.


Resign Florence and get Patrick, McKelvin needs some bench time.

[Novacane]

McKelvin should not see the field again today. 1 guy is losing this game for the Bills.

[psubills62]

This is an unbelievably horrible officiating job.

[baalworship]

Every pass play they throw to whoever McKelvin is covering. The only good game he had this year was against Marshall and Miami.

[Novacane]

I think we can throw another piece of **** on the scrap heap that is Bills first round draft picks.

[psubills62]

Why is it that most every top CB drafted becomes a great player a year later, while ours still can't do squat after 3 years.

[Aliceinchainsbills15]

Why is it that most every top CB drafted becomes a great player a year later, while ours still can't do squat after 3 years.
It is coaching

[Slim]

Why is it that most every top CB drafted becomes a great player a year later, while ours still can't do squat after 3 years.

Talib and DRC are looking pretty good right now.

[Beebe's Kid]

Run CJ...

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Why is it that most every top CB drafted becomes a great player a year later, while ours still can't do squat after 3 years.

Buffalo doesnt get solid players, they settle for "the other guy".

[Mr. Pink]

Offensive Line is horrid today.

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Ouch, Fitz got nailed.

[Scumbag College]

Jared Allen is kicking Bell's ass today.

[Novacane]

Can we please get some blocking

[Scumbag College]

Damn, Roosevelt laying a hit without a helmet on. Tough play.

[Slim]

Bill's offense has been terrible today.

[baalworship]

McKelvin was the consensus top cornerback in the draft. There is also bad luck.

[psubills62]

Buffalo doesnt get solid players, they settle for "the other guy".

But it's not like McKelvin was a reach. He was rated as the top CB by pretty much everyone (except a few trying to be different). He just didn't develop, and I think AIC is right...coaching.

[colin]

leodis still has huge physical gifts, it's his brain that's making him suck.

[Slim]

Nice play be Kelsay.

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Way to go Whitner.

[Mr. Pink]

Dumb play Whitner.

Go tweet about it!

[Novacane]

This team is really playing stupid today.

[Slim]

I'd so rather have Farve back there.

Terrible unnecessary roughness call. He slid into him.

[Scumbag College]

Oh my god, all you have to do is ask these refs for a flag and they give it to you. Jackson slid late, right into Whitner.

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Atleast I started Peterson on my FF team.

[colin]

ugh, now i'm worried we are just laying down. :<

[Billz_fan]

Any QB that gets hit sliding is gonna draw a flag. I don't like it either but it's just the way it is.

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

i cannot see farve starting ever again

[psubills62]

No way the Bills can beat purple and pinstripes today. Has there been any calls at all against Minnesota?

[Dujek]

This has been brutal so far.

[EDS]

Big mistake knocking Farve out of the game.

[BADTHINGSMAN]

i cannot see farve starting ever again

If thats the case, then Id be shocked if Favre stayed in Minny all year.

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

If thats the case, then Id be shocked if Favre stayed in Minny all year.
i agree... if he gets the hook he will split

[ZacGriffi~82]

everyone on the field saw that coming.

[Mr. Pink]

Nothing on offense is working today.

Hopefully they can make some halftime adjustments so this doesn't end up 42-14.

[Mr. Pink]

Atleast I started Peterson on my FF team.


Good call, you're getting another TD from him now.

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

still think fitzpatric will take us to the promised land?

[hammerbillsfan]

Time to watch another game :sigh:

[Slim]

Bill's are going to get ran out of the building.

[ZacGriffi~82]

what the hell is up with our O-line today?

[Beebe's Kid]

This one isn't going so well.

[djjimkelly]

fitz is the answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we dont need a qb in the draft

[Dujek]

Chan, that play never worked with Roscoe, what makes you think it'll work with Spiller?

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

nawt bluuddy likley

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Its always good watching former Bills have good games against Buffalo. :rolleyes:

[djjimkelly]

what the hell is up with our O-line today?


vikings have a premier d line thats what

[Dujek]

We should have just paid Williams and Winfield.

[baalworship]

Holding by 2 Vikings on the TD play.

[Slim]

I wish Stevie Johnson had Sidney Rice's hands.

[Slim]

We need to score here.

[psubills62]

Holding by 2 Vikings on the TD play.

But they're the Vikings...you can't throw flags on them. :coocoo:

[Beebe's Kid]

Neither of those holds was worth a flag?

[kingJofNYC]

Go Seahawks!

[BADTHINGSMAN]

We should have just paid Williams and Winfield.


That would have been nice.

[Dr. Lecter]

Now the injuries are coming. yay.

[ZacGriffi~82]

Fitz has ~1.5 seconds to throw every play

[clumping platelets]

Why wasn't Jared Allen called for a late hit?

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Atleast Moorman is having a good day.

[Dujek]

Any chance of ANY flag on Minnesota? Stripeys are a joke.

[ZacGriffi~82]

pro bowl kyle....

[NOT THE DUDE...]

with hang, wood and no rt our oline is getting destroyed... its bad

[Luisito23]

No comebacks today...Sorry...:sadbye:

[ZacGriffi~82]

apparently the only one who can tackle AP is Whitner.

[Beebe's Kid]

What the ****? This is rigged!

[Mr. Pink]

Shoulda challenged that fumble.

[psubills62]

That was a freaking catch.

[Scumbag College]

Wow that was a fumble. Not going to get a call today. On Fitz's incomplete pass/fumble they let them play, even though it was pretty obvious that was an incomplete pass.

[BADTHINGSMAN]

apparently the only one who can tackle AP is Whitner.

And only after he gets 7yards.

[Dujek]

BULL****.

That's complete bull**** from the officials.

[Dr. Lecter]

That was a possible fumble. Wish it had been challenged

[psubills62]

Shoulda challenged that fumble.

Shouldn't need to challenge that fumble. Come on, they let that incomplete pass from Fitzpatrick play out and end up calling it a fumble, but not that one? Absolute BS.

[Electrici]

I dont think the whistle should have been blown. Guy had the ball, turned, got hit and dropped it. Let the play, play out.

[Crisis]

black ref

black head coach

CONSPIRACY!

[Dujek]

The Bills may be sucking, but the officials are taking away every chance they have with terrible calls.

[colin]

black ref

black head coach

CONSPIRACY!

and a black qb! clearly!

[baalworship]

Thinking about doing something else.

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Id love to see Favre back in the 2nd half. That would tick off Vike fans.

[Dr. Lecter]

At least Poz made a play

[TheBrownBear]

That was a poor second quarter.

[Crisis]

i almost forgot how bad this team actually is

[BADTHINGSMAN]

At least Poz made a play


He has had a good day so far. A pick in the 2nd half would make it a even better day.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

stroud, edwards and s johnson are all on the wrong side of 30, they are not bad but they should be back ups... our first pick should be dareus, fairley, allen bailey, or clayborn...

our 2nd pick needs to be a 34olb pass rusher, our next pick needs to be a 34ilb, 34ilb and 34de... front 7!!!!!!!

[psubills62]

I'm not usually one to get upset about the officiating, but this is AWFUL. Yes, Buffalo has made mistakes, but how many of those mistakes and how much momentum was because of the first TD by Rice that should never have been a TD?

This is just unbelievable to me. These refs are horrible. Absolutely horrible. I hope the refs make some halftime adjustments and see exactly what kind of crappy calls and non-calls they've got on there. I don't care if Minnesota scores 100+ points today, I will always consider this game to be on the refs because of how it started. Unreal.

[kingJofNYC]

We haven't looked this bad since the Jets game, just brutal.

Moats is playing really well though.

[Dujek]

If the PI call is made on Rice and the fumble is allowed to go for six, like it should have this game would have been 21-14.

As bad as the Bills have been the officials have been killing them more than the Vikings.

[The Warrior]

If the PI call is made on Rice and the fumble is allowed to go for six, like it should have this game would have been 21-14.

As bad as the Bills have been the officials have been killing them more than the Vikings.
Agreed

[TheBrownBear]

I'm not usually one to get upset about the officiating, but this is AWFUL. Yes, Buffalo has made mistakes, but how many of those mistakes and how much momentum was because of the first TD by Rice that should never have been a TD?

This is just unbelievable to me. These refs are horrible. Absolutely horrible. I hope the refs make some halftime adjustments and see exactly what kind of crappy calls and non-calls they've got on there. I don't care if Minnesota scores 100+ points today, I will always consider this game to be on the refs because of how it started. Unreal.

They are physically dominating us. That has nothing to do with the officials. It was a questionable no-call but I like when refs let the guys fight for the ball. We suck today...period.

[psubills62]

They are physically dominating us. That has nothing to do with the officials. It was a questionable no-call but I like when refs let the guys fight for the ball. We suck today...period.

It has everything to do with the officials. Have we been playing well? No. Have the officials really hurt us? Heck yes. Sorry, but there is no excuse for officiating that is this bad.

It's easy for a team to physically dominate when they're holding and tackling our DL on every play.

[wmoz11]

9 passing yards in the first half. 9.

[Crisis]

the officials suck but it's hard to blame them when the pocket collapses in one second everytime fitz drops back and the defense can't stop tavaris jackson.

[BADTHINGSMAN]

They are physically dominating us. That has nothing to do with the officials. It was a questionable no-call but I like when refs let the guys fight for the ball. We suck today...period.

While the officials have made some questionable calls, they didn't force McKelvin to fumble or Fitz to throw that pick to Winfield which got the Vikes 14 points.

[BADTHINGSMAN]

9 passing yards in the first half. 9.


Its hard to play offense when your defense has been on the field alot. Stevie didnt help with a dropped pass either.

[Novacane]

While the officials have made some questionable calls, they didn't force McKelvin to fumble or Fitz to throw that pick to Winfield which got the Vikes 14 points.


Nor did they force Johnson to drop a 20 yard pass that would have kept a drive going. Blaming the officials is a joke. The Bills have sucked ass today.

[Bangarang]

Its hard to play offense when your defense has been on the field alot. Stevie didnt help with a dropped pass either.

Maybe it's just me, but Stevie tends to drop passes when he senses he's about to take a hit.

[ZacGriffi~82]

i have a hard time blaming that pick on Fitz. he got destroyed as he threw that.

[Novacane]

Totally unorganized on offense.

[Mr. Pink]

Wow, that's sad.

He had blockers in front of him and the blockers couldn't get him to the first down marker?

When he first caught that I thought that was gonna be an easy 1st down pickup.

[ZacGriffi~82]

that was a good call, O-line whiffed horrendously.

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Maybe it's just me, but Stevie tends to drop passes when he senses he's about to take a hit.

I noticed that and maybe he gets a bit excited when the balls coming his way. Instead of making the catch he is already thinking more. JMO.

[Dujek]

The Bills OL is a mess today. Mainly because of injury, but it's still a mess.

[Mr. Pink]

Look at that McKelvin makes a play!

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Good hustle to get to that ball by McKelvin.

[Dujek]

About time McKelvin did something right.

[colin]

we need about 5 more of those!!

[unpaid_bills]

wow got a call. maybe fitz can get something going.

[Mr. Pink]

Well there goes making something happen on this series/drive.

Another dumb penalty.

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Unbelievable!

[Mr. Pink]

Wow Lee Evans is playing today!

I wasn't sure.

[unpaid_bills]

that a BS call give me a break -

[Mr. Pink]

Hold on to the ball!!!!

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Holy Junk, just hold on.

[unpaid_bills]

apparently metal to metal contact is not helmet to helmet:help!:

[colin]

and there it is

[Dujek]

HOLD ONTO THE BALL.

****ing hell.

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Winfield has had a great day for the Vikes.

[psubills62]

What the heck needs to happen so the players learn to hang onto the ball? Do we have the most fumbles in the league yet?

[BADTHINGSMAN]

What the heck needs to happen so the players learn to hang onto the ball? Do we have the most fumbles in the league yet?

If not, it has to be close.

[Oaf]

Great hit by Winfield n all, but according to the rules in the NFL now, isn't that an illegal hit?

[Mr. Pink]

Necessary to lay out the punter down field.

[Billz_fan]

Gonna be a rough week here on the board :laughter:

[Dujek]

That's it, I'm getting totally ****ed up.

[unpaid_bills]

This ref crew is a freakin joke. Illegal contact to a Punter??? Is that actually a freaking rule. The player (trying to make a tackle) running down the field gets blocked (not in the back but a legal block) isn't that called football?

[kingJofNYC]

Gonna be a rough week here on the board :laughter:

Not if the Seahawks win!

[Dr. Lecter]

Why was that a penalty? once down field the punter is just another cover man

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Gonna be a rough week here on the board :laughter:

Yeah, every player will have at least 5 threads about them made.

[kingJofNYC]

They're just caving in our OL.

[ZacGriffi~82]

Fitz is having serious communication issues with Urbik

[Crisis]

Everytime we start praising someone they turn to ****

lee evans? check
stevie johnson? check
jairus byrd? check
d bell? check
ryan fitz/chan gailey? in progress

[unpaid_bills]

Prediciton - the next penalty on Fitz will be "unnecessary facial hair growth" 15 yards and loss of down.:bs:

[Dujek]

Fitz running for his life and making plays. Like watching the second half of last season.

[TacklingDummy]

Like the only thing I said in last weeks thread, is there any question the Bills should be drafting Defense, Defense, Defense, and more Defense this draft?

[ZacGriffi~82]

total team meltdown.

[Dr. Lecter]

Like the only thing I said in last weeks thread, is there any question the Bills should be drafting Defense, Defense, Defense, and more Defense this draft?
Their offense has been shut out today.

So yes, there is a question.

[Crisis]

Plugging in a bunch of scrubs at OL catches up sooner or later