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justasportsfan
12-21-2010, 10:56 AM
“Fitz is a difference maker,” said Eric Wood. “He does what he has to do to put us in a position to win. A lot of times he’s making a lot of plays for us and he makes us look really good.”

“Fitz has had a knack for working guys in and not letting it be a detriment and letting those guys go have an opportunity to make plays,” Gailey said.

“There are not many quarterbacks in the league today that will set aside extra time to sit in film rooms with a receiver one-on-one and go over coverages and get a teammate’s thoughts about how they’re going to run routes or set up defenders.



http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-2/Fitzs-season-more-than-just-production/0c18558e-87bc-4967-8506-272725178e2c

I wonder if both Brohm and Brown are anywhere near Fitz when they watch film together with the wr's.

EDS
12-21-2010, 11:17 AM
“Fitz is a difference maker,” said Eric Wood. “He does what he has to do to put us in a position to win. A lot of times he’s making a lot of plays for us and he makes us look really good.”

“Fitz has had a knack for working guys in and not letting it be a detriment and letting those guys go have an opportunity to make plays,” Gailey said.

“There are not many quarterbacks in the league today that will set aside extra time to sit in film rooms with a receiver one-on-one and go over coverages and get a teammate’s thoughts about how they’re going to run routes or set up defenders.



http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-2/Fitzs-season-more-than-just-production/0c18558e-87bc-4967-8506-272725178e2c

I wonder if both Brohm and Brown are anywhere near Fitz when they watch film together with the wr's.

Sounds like they should be. Also sounds like Fitz will make an excellent coach when his playing days are over.

Mr. Pink
12-21-2010, 11:19 AM
He certainly has been a difference maker this year.

He's made the offense look competent almost on a weekly basis, something that hasn't been seen around here since Bledsoe.

TheBrownBear
12-21-2010, 12:01 PM
I love his grasp of the mental side of the game. It's exciting watching him change plays at the line because you know there's a good chance he's about to exploit the defense for a positive play. If he can fix some of his shortcomings this offseason, he could be in for a huge year in 2011.

Beebe's Kid
12-21-2010, 12:12 PM
I love his grasp of the mental side of the game. It's exciting watching him change plays at the line because you know there's a good chance he's about to exploit the defense for a positive play. If he can fix some of his shortcomings this offseason, he could be in for a huge year in 2011.
I would argue the point that he has fixed some of his shortcomings during this year.

Coming into the preseason, I maintained that he couldn't throw a football. I thought that keeping Brohm would have been a better idea....then I saw Fitz in the preseason. I was watching with my family, and I remember tellin my wife "something happened...Fitz looks way better than he did last year."

He has way more zip on his passes this year, and as the season has progressed, I think he is getting am better feel for the throws he can't make.

T-Long
12-21-2010, 12:27 PM
He is the perfect QB to have on your roster...the guy can win games and helps out the team in many different areas. He will help our new rookie QB coming in immensely. Problem is, I think some teams may offer him a starting role and will leave after his contract is up. Draft a QB, let him learn under Fitz for a year, then take over in 2012

HAMMER
12-21-2010, 12:42 PM
He is the perfect QB to have on your roster...the guy can win games and helps out the team in many different areas. He will help our new rookie QB coming in immensely. Problem is, I think some teams may offer him a starting role and will leave after his contract is up. Draft a QB, let him learn under Fitz for a year, then take over in 2012

Why, why, why? Why do you people think it is a foregone conclusion we are even going to draft a QB this year? Why does everyone discount Fitz and his ability to improve? He is athletic as hell, he has plenty of arm strength, he is a leader, he is smart, he is improving.

justasportsfan
12-21-2010, 01:37 PM
this Ol is just night and day when Fitz is the qb compared to Trent.

Mr. Pink
12-21-2010, 01:38 PM
this Ol is just night and day when Fitz is the qb compared to Trent.


Outside of the Vikings games, I agree.

Forward_Lateral
12-21-2010, 01:53 PM
Regardless of whether he's viewed as the future "franchise" QB of the Bills, they should lock him up this offseason for sure. Look how he helps the young WRs. Imagine how he'll help a young QB. He deserves a nice extension.

justasportsfan
12-21-2010, 01:54 PM
maybe if they gave him a raise he could afford get his beard shaved.

The last buffalo fan
12-21-2010, 01:56 PM
Outside of the Vikings games, I agree.

Our OL was a revolving door at the Vikings game. What's the point here? Just curious for another opinion.

Forward_Lateral
12-21-2010, 01:56 PM
Hopefully he doesn't ask for a million dollars per helmet size. He has the biggest helmet in the NFL.

Mr. Pink
12-21-2010, 01:59 PM
Our OL was a revolving door at the Vikings game. What's the point here? Just curious for another opinion.


Just that the OL hasn't looked better every game Fitz has started instead of Trent, I guess.

justasportsfan
12-21-2010, 02:02 PM
Just that the OL hasn't looked better every game Fitz has started instead of Trent, I guess.

to think that our Ol hasn't exactly been intact all season long either. Players have been moved around a lot.

Figster
12-21-2010, 02:07 PM
Why, why, why? Why do you people think it is a foregone conclusion we are even going to draft a QB this year? Why does everyone discount Fitz and his ability to improve? He is athletic as hell, he has plenty of arm strength, he is a leader, he is smart, he is improving.

If Santas little helpers look like your avatar Hammer, its no wonder the fellas so jolly all of the time...

trapezeus
12-21-2010, 02:16 PM
i think fitz is a long term solution for the bills. Maybe not a long time starter, but the guy should get locked up. He shows a coaches mentality in his approach to studying and leading the team. The bills will pick a younger QB in t he next two years. After Fitz has lead the team for a few years and is feeling the wear of a few seasons, you want this guy coaching up younger, more mechanically gifted QB.

You want him to essentially be a better version of AVP. Play two-three more years, groom a QB, move into coaching.

mayotm
12-21-2010, 02:23 PM
Why, why, why? Why do you people think it is a foregone conclusion we are even going to draft a QB this year? Why does everyone discount Fitz and his ability to improve? He is athletic as hell, he has plenty of arm strength, he is a leader, he is smart, he is improving.I agree. I don't get why people assume that Fitz has peaked. His play is drastically better this year. He's 28. It's not unreasonable to think he can continue getting better.

justasportsfan
12-21-2010, 02:27 PM
Why, why, why? Why do you people think it is a foregone conclusion we are even going to draft a QB this year? Why does everyone discount Fitz and his ability to improve? He is athletic as hell, he has plenty of arm strength, he is a leader, he is smart, he is improving.

he has facial hair that looks like 70's porn? :idunno:

justasportsfan
12-21-2010, 03:51 PM
here's an older article.


"I don't want to say that the guys who coached me last year were bad, because I loved those guys," Fitz said. "But a big difference between this year and last has been Chan. It's the system he brought here and the ability to communicate every day. I haven't been in a meeting this year where he hasn't been in there. So I know exactly what he wants, and he's able to listen to me and allow me to do things that I want."

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/columns/jerry-sullivan/article288041.ece

Extremebillsfan247
12-21-2010, 05:43 PM
Why, why, why? Why do you people think it is a foregone conclusion we are even going to draft a QB this year? Why does everyone discount Fitz and his ability to improve? He is athletic as hell, he has plenty of arm strength, he is a leader, he is smart, he is improving.You could be right. Maybe the plan moving forward will be to lock up Fitz for a couple more years while they have the young arm of Levi Brown to sit and learn behind him. Who knows what Gailey and Nix are thinking? It's not exactly something that's going to make fans jump for joy but it is a possibility that we go the whole draft next year without grabbing a QB. JMO

Nighthawk
12-21-2010, 05:46 PM
He certainly has been a difference maker this year.

He's made the offense look competent almost on a weekly basis, something that hasn't been seen around here since Bledsoe.

True enough, but I fail to see where he puts them in a position to win? I hope he is the answer at QB, but I still have reservations.

HAMMER
12-21-2010, 06:07 PM
True enough, but I fail to see where he puts them in a position to win? I hope he is the answer at QB, but I still have reservations.

WOW! This is a big change from last week when every post from you was how Fitz is NOT the answer.

YardRat
12-21-2010, 06:28 PM
Mark Kelso had high praise for Fitz yesterday morning. He stated there are only five QB's in the league that can make the throw he put into Nelson for the TD...Manning, Brady, Brees, (embarrassingly I forget who #4 is) and.....Fitz.

Nighthawk
12-21-2010, 07:26 PM
WOW! This is a big change from last week when every post from you was how Fitz is NOT the answer.

Umm, like I said jackass, I have barely been on here for the past few 3 weeks, so I have no idea what the hell you're talking about. I still am not a believer and would much rather have Andrew Luck, but what can I do.

NOT THE DUDE...
12-21-2010, 07:39 PM
i think nix and gailey will talk and if fitz plays good against the pats and jets they will go with him as the starter and possibly sign him to a 3 or 5 year deal. i think they will also take a long look at troy smith or tyler thigpen so they can have a legit back up...

NOT THE DUDE...
12-21-2010, 07:40 PM
this draft is going almost all defense(front 7) and probably 2 picks on the oline, rt in the 2nd or 3rd round, and another ot late...

something like this...

1 ryan kerrigan 34olb
2 gabe carimi ot
3 donta hightower ilb
4 josh bynes ilb
4 phil taylor nt/de
5 ot
6 de
7 de/olb

Novacane
12-21-2010, 07:54 PM
He is definitely the QB for next year. If he has another season like this one he'll be the QB of the future. He is only 28.

Nighthawk
12-21-2010, 08:02 PM
He is definitely the QB for next year. If he has another season like this one he'll be the QB of the future. He is only 28.

Agreed, but I will be pissed if they resign him to a huge contract after this year. There is still a HUGE possibility that this has been a career year for him and he comes back to Earth next year. Also, let's not forget, his completion percentage is pretty poor...that isn't a good sign for a franchise QB and his win/loss record is awful.

Novacane
12-21-2010, 08:11 PM
I agree. No need to give him a big contract this offseason. I'm coming around slowly but I need to see back to back good seasons to really believe in Fitz. There are a lot of QB's that have had 1 good year.

Nighthawk
12-21-2010, 08:12 PM
I agree. No need to give him a big contract this offseason. I'm coming around slowly but I need to see back to back good seasons to really believe in Fitz. There are a lot of QB's that have had 1 good year.

Yep.

NOT THE DUDE...
12-21-2010, 09:13 PM
I agree. No need to give him a big contract this offseason. I'm coming around slowly but I need to see back to back good seasons to really believe in Fitz. There are a lot of QB's that have had 1 good year.

thats probably a good point but before this year teams already had a good amount of tape on him... and he has gotten way better this year. i would at least extend him 3 years. either way we want him to stay here.

hes a legit top 15 qb...

HAMMER
12-21-2010, 09:45 PM
Umm, like I said jackass, I have barely been on here for the past few 3 weeks, so I have no idea what the hell you're talking about. I still am not a believer and would much rather have Andrew Luck, but what can I do.

Easy, don't get your panties in a wad.

EDS
12-22-2010, 10:17 AM
thats probably a good point but before this year teams already had a good amount of tape on him... and he has gotten way better this year. i would at least extend him 3 years. either way we want him to stay here.

hes a legit top 15 qb...

Is he?

justasportsfan
12-22-2010, 10:27 AM
Fitz is slowly growing on me. Granted that other units on this team have contributed or were bigger factors to our losses, I would like to see Fitz consistently be the biggest factor when we start beating good teams.

Right now, we have beaten teams we were supposed to beat and even though the fins have a better record, I thought they were a team we were supposed to beat.

We will play the best teams in the playoffs and until we can beat beat them in the regular season on Ftiz's shoulders , I am still cautiously optimistic about Fitz but not completey sold.

HAMMER
12-22-2010, 12:17 PM
Fitz is slowly growing on me. Granted that other units on this team have contributed or were bigger factors to our losses, I would like to see Fitz consistently be the biggest factor when we start beating good teams.

Right now, we have beaten teams we were supposed to beat and even though the fins have a better record, I thought they were a team we were supposed to beat.

We will play the best teams in the playoffs and until we can beat beat them in the regular season on Ftiz's shoulders , I am still cautiously optimistic about Fitz but not completey sold.

The biggest factor needs to be top notch line play on both sides of the ball. Everything else will follow as Fitz will not have any trouble finding holes when he has time.

Nighthawk
12-22-2010, 12:24 PM
The biggest factor needs to be top notch line play on both sides of the ball. Everything else will follow as Fitz will not have any trouble finding holes when he has time.

And how do you know this? I don't know, but the guy never has done anything when he played before this season and his completion percentage is still terrible. I'm not one of these fans who gets excited just because he's better then the last few jokers in town. He needs to win games against good/great teams and he needs to carry this team to more victories. If he can't do that, then he is just a placeholder until we finally end the search for a franchise QB. He has not been as fantastic as some on here would have you believe, but for some reason, he's been touted as the next great QB. That's the problem I have with some of the takes on him.

Let him prove this season was a fluke before we end the search for a QB.

justasportsfan
12-22-2010, 01:02 PM
The biggest factor needs to be top notch line play on both sides of the ball. Everything else will follow as Fitz will not have any trouble finding holes when he has time.

I agree 100% but I have to see it on a consistent basis vs. great teams. Fitz is playing very well but I have to see him win games for us when everything else around him are falling apart.

better days
12-22-2010, 01:12 PM
here's an older article.


"I don't want to say that the guys who coached me last year were bad, because I loved those guys," Fitz said. "But a big difference between this year and last has been Chan. It's the system he brought here and the ability to communicate every day. I haven't been in a meeting this year where he hasn't been in there. So I know exactly what he wants, and he's able to listen to me and allow me to do things that I want."

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/columns/jerry-sullivan/article288041.ece

I can think of a couple teachers in my past that I liked that in retrospect didn't teach me all that much.

Mad Bomber
12-22-2010, 01:12 PM
Agreed, but I will be pissed if they resign him to a huge contract after this year. There is still a HUGE possibility that this has been a career year for him and he comes back to Earth next year. Also, let's not forget, his completion percentage is pretty poor...that isn't a good sign for a franchise QB and his win/loss record is awful.
It would probably be better if he could also play LB and shore up our run defense... :D

HAMMER
12-22-2010, 01:21 PM
Some of you people won't be happy until Jesus himself QB's the Bills and throws for 15,000 yards and 463 TD's in a season, and of course wins the SB.

It gets so old listening to the same crap over and over, move on. Enjoy the rest of the season, and know that Fitz will be starting next year no matter what you armchair GM's want.

Nighthawk
12-22-2010, 06:58 PM
Some of you people won't be happy until Jesus himself QB's the Bills and throws for 15,000 yards and 463 TD's in a season, and of course wins the SB.

It gets so old listening to the same crap over and over, move on. Enjoy the rest of the season, and know that Fitz will be starting next year no matter what you armchair GM's want.

You know what gets old? People just anointing Fitz the next coming. You know what people like you get? You are the same type of people who would pick a Penn State LB in the first round, just because he produced for one year and you're the person who'd trade a 1st & 4th round pick for a SoCal QB who only started 4 games and then give him a super huge contract.

Nighthawk
12-22-2010, 06:59 PM
It would probably be better if he could also play LB and shore up our run defense... :D

I guess it was all the defenses fault in St. Louis and Cincy too...when is it ever Fitz fault? Just askin?

HAMMER
12-22-2010, 07:20 PM
You know what gets old? People just anointing Fitz the next coming. You know what people like you get? You are the same type of people who would pick a Penn State LB in the first round, just because he produced for one year and you're the person who'd trade a 1st & 4th round pick for a SoCal QB who only started 4 games and then give him a super huge contract.

I have not anointed him the second coming. I have not said we should extend him at this time. I did not endorse Maybin, I nearly cried when the pick came in.

I simply believe people can improve and grow, and should not be classified as second rate just because they weren't first round picks or starters right out of college. Some examples of players that were low round picks or took years to develop into very good QB's, Brady, Young, Warner, Schaub, Rodgers, on and on.

Just give the guy a chance, he's got all the intangibles and a lot of athleticism. He is just scratching the surface IMO.

JCBills
12-22-2010, 07:49 PM
Agreed, but I will be pissed if they resign him to a huge contract after this year. There is still a HUGE possibility that this has been a career year for him and he comes back to Earth next year. Also, let's not forget, his completion percentage is pretty poor...that isn't a good sign for a franchise QB and his win/loss record is awful.

Takes more than one player to win games. Everyone knows how much help the defense has given him, especially early on.

JCBills
12-22-2010, 07:54 PM
And how do you know this? I don't know, but the guy never has done anything when he played before this season and his completion percentage is still terrible. I'm not one of these fans who gets excited just because he's better then the last few jokers in town. He needs to win games against good/great teams and he needs to carry this team to more victories. If he can't do that, then he is just a placeholder until we finally end the search for a franchise QB. He has not been as fantastic as some on here would have you believe, but for some reason, he's been touted as the next great QB. That's the problem I have with some of the takes on him.

Let him prove this season was a fluke before we end the search for a QB.
Again, when the D allows 30+ points in 7 of 14 games, there is only so much a QB can do.


You know what gets old? People just anointing Fitz the next coming. You know what people like you get? You are the same type of people who would pick a Penn State LB in the first round, just because he produced for one year and you're the person who'd trade a 1st & 4th round pick for a SoCal QB who only started 4 games and then give him a super huge contract.

Haven't seen anyone say he's the next coming yet, only people who claim to know that he's "a good backup, nothing more".

Most of the people who like Fitz are still cautiously optimistic and just want to see what he can do with more help.

NOT THE DUDE...
12-22-2010, 08:16 PM
i think its pretty obvious that fitz is a good qb, at minimum a top 10-20 qb. is he a franchise qb? no. will he ever be? probably not. but you can still get into the playoffs with a good qb and good team around him. once you get in the playoffs, anything can happen.

NOT THE DUDE...
12-22-2010, 08:18 PM
basically fitz would would have thrown for 4000yds and 30tds and 15int if he started the first 2 games....

lets see what he can do with a better team next year along with more practice reps in training camp....

christhebillsfan783
12-22-2010, 08:51 PM
Hopefully he doesn't ask for a million dollars per helmet size. He has the biggest helmet in the NFL.

It's to fit that Harvard sized brain!