The switch to the 3-4 failed. Our best defender is a 4-3 DT. So, we're going to stick with the 4-3 and build around Kyle Williams, right?
The 3-4 is dead, right?
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I don't think the team is going to run a whole lot of 3-4 the rest of this season, but I do expect they will add more 3-4 personnel in the offseason. I think the Bills will make another go at it next season, maybe keeping the idea of a hybrid available too. I think the pickup of Kevin Heard is a sign the 3-4 is not dead long term.I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.
I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.
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If you get playmakers it shouldnt make to much of a difference. Just get big athletic guys. The NT position is really the only spot that is dependent on a specific type. But even Dallas plays with a light NT.Buy land in AK now. In ten years due to global warming, it will be the new tropical paradise, minus the tropics
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Originally posted by JOHN DELLAPELLEi think we will run a hybrid as long as we lack the talent to run either the 3-4 or the 4-3 properly...
But, back to the original question: Kyle Williams is good, but not quite good enough to build a defense around. I suspect that the team will pick up some front 7 players who are a better fit for the 3-4 in the off-season and keep moving in that direction. Next year, we will probably still see a bit of a hybrid but with more emphasis on the 3-4, and by the season after that, we should be a consistent 3-4 team (assuming the players we get in the next two off-seasons turn out to be good choices).
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Originally posted by OpIv37Kyle Williams is good, but not quite good enough to build a defense around. I suspect that the team will pick up some front 7 players who are a better fit for the 3-4 in the off-season and keep moving in that direction. Next year, we will probably still see a bit of a hybrid but with more emphasis on the 3-4, and by the season after that, we should be a consistent 3-4 team (assuming the players we get in the next two off-seasons turn out to be good choices).
Since we've ditched the Cover 2, our DBs are more traditional in their assignments now (heavy man for the CBs, dynamic safeties who can cover, fill the box or blitz). That means we can get by with the same four there, so we can spend most of our attention on the front 7 through the draft and FA.
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Originally posted by OpIv37I fixed it for you.
But, back to the original question: Kyle Williams is good, but not quite good enough to build a defense around. I suspect that the team will pick up some front 7 players who are a better fit for the 3-4 in the off-season and keep moving in that direction. Next year, we will probably still see a bit of a hybrid but with more emphasis on the 3-4, and by the season after that, we should be a consistent 3-4 team (assuming the players we get in the next two off-seasons turn out to be good choices).Last edited by Extremebillsfan247; 12-23-2010, 06:55 AM.
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I would've agreed with OP last year, but this year kyle has definitely won me over....i always thought he was a serviceable player but he's definitely working his way into elite if he's not there yet.Originally posted by LOSman WINSVanek is Austrian not EuropeanOriginally posted by Prov401Pacquiao isn't asian. He's from the philippinesOriginally posted by better daysI will not be surprised if Tebow has more success than Peyton in the NFL.
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Most of the D formations lately have been of the 4-3 variety. The Bills were getting trampled by the opposing running game in the 3-4, during the 0-8 start.Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit
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Originally posted by Extremebillsfan247Why isn't Williams good enough to build a defense around? what's he got to do, walk on water? He is second in the league among all Dlineman in tackles, 5th in sacks among DTs and NTs in his first year in a 3/4 defense. But he isn't good enough. LMAO...
Look, he's a good player and he's having a great season. He's proven me wrong because I was afraid he'd be out of place in this D. But building a D around him as if he is going to stay that great for the rest of his career is a HUGE gamble.
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Originally posted by OpIv37because he's been that way for what? The last 10 games or so out of a 5 year career?
Look, he's a good player and he's having a great season. He's proven me wrong because I was afraid he'd be out of place in this D. But building a D around him as if he is going to stay that great for the rest of his career is a HUGE gamble.
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Originally posted by better daysHe was drafted in 06 so this would be his 4th year & his 1st under Gailey. I think he is having a pro bowl year myself. He is definitely a starter in the NFL.
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This is his fifth year- count 'em if you have to.
I agree, he is definitely a starter in the NFL. And he looks like one of those guys who can play well in any system. Both of those are huge assets. He's an above average NFL talent, possibly on the verge of becoming elite. But there are only maybe 6 defenders in the league right now that you can really build your D around. I just think doing that right now is still way too risky.
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