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shelby
12-26-2010, 08:16 AM
:doh::doh::gobills:


Beating Bills would give Patriots AFC's No. 1 seed

The storyline
The Pats can clinch the first overall seed in the AFC with a win. The Bills continue to fight as hard as they can and make things interesting every week.
Why you should watch
Buffalo gave New England a heck of a game the first time around. Tom Brady (http://www.nfl.com/players/tombrady/profile?id=BRA371156) is pretty much infallible these days. Ryan Fitzpatrick (http://www.nfl.com/players/ryanfitzpatrick/profile?id=FIT792915) makes the game look fun.
Did you know?
The Patriots have won six in a row at Buffalo. ... New England is 59-2 under Bill Belichick when scoring at least 30 points. ... Fitzpatrick has a touchdown pass in 15 consecutive games. ... Buffalo's David Nelson has a touchdown in three consecutive games.



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YardRat
12-26-2010, 08:18 AM
http://www.dvuser.co.uk/images/img/features/xdcam-bhp/cameraman3.jpg

SquishDaFish
12-26-2010, 08:26 AM
:gobills:

seanbillsfan
12-26-2010, 08:38 AM
Brady gets picked off on his 1st attempt. Bills 28 Pats 17

Night Train
12-26-2010, 08:56 AM
Moats drags down Brady from behind by the pants.

His tramp stamp and lace panties are exposed to a national audience. :up:

anditsgood
12-26-2010, 09:09 AM
well i was going to say good luck today and hope for no injuries......

where is big bra when you need him

:)

Luisito23
12-26-2010, 09:20 AM
Go Bills!...Please win!

Figster
12-26-2010, 10:04 AM
Beating the New England Patriots would be monumental for our Buffalo Bills Football team. The Bills cannot get to the next level until we can compete in our division and the Pats are by far Buffalo's biggest obstacle.

I'm expecting a playoff atmosphere despite Buffalo's 4-10 record.


Tom Brady crossing the Moat: :shutit:



:gobills: :cheers:

Cntrygal
12-26-2010, 10:49 AM
:gobills:

Bangarang
12-26-2010, 11:53 AM
Let's get that win today!

Dujek
12-26-2010, 12:04 PM
:gobills:

Kill Marcia!

Dujek
12-26-2010, 12:05 PM
Nice start from Freddie

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 12:05 PM
Fred is the man

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 12:06 PM
I have a gut feeling the Bills are going to win today.

Dujek
12-26-2010, 12:08 PM
The Patriots defense looks like the Bills from the start of the season.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:08 PM
can we ****en cash7

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:09 PM
of course not

cocamide
12-26-2010, 12:10 PM
Nice drive, but we won't win by scoring field goals.

Dujek
12-26-2010, 12:11 PM
Good drive, but it needs to be 7 every time we're down there against the Patriots if we're going to have a chance.

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 12:15 PM
Wow he was wide open, Brady missed him

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:15 PM
this little squirrel woodhead will frustrate us if we let him

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 12:16 PM
Pathetic run defense, any question the Bills should be drafting defense early and often next year?

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:17 PM
green ellis is this weeks scrub rb we're gonna make look like a probowler

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:18 PM
Pathetic run defense, any question the Bills should be drafting defense early and often next year?

yes..betteer throws and we have 7 on the board instead of our usual 3 against the pats

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:19 PM
they'rePUNTING !!!!

Dujek
12-26-2010, 12:21 PM
Decent defensive stop, but the law firm was grinding out yards straight up the middle.

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 12:24 PM
You have to catch that ball #18.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:25 PM
go get that pass rosey

cocamide
12-26-2010, 12:25 PM
Spend our first rounder on a punter

sba
12-26-2010, 12:26 PM
Good coaching to not run after getting 65 yards on the ground first drive.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:26 PM
Spend our first rounder on a punter

at least a 6th...its not against the law to draft one of these monkeys

Dujek
12-26-2010, 12:27 PM
Good coaching to not run after getting 65 yards on the ground first drive.

You noticed the false start penalty, did you dickhead?

Novacane
12-26-2010, 12:28 PM
Moorman has sucked this year.

seanbillsfan
12-26-2010, 12:28 PM
Awful play calling. Why did we get away from the run game?

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:28 PM
our high round DL picks at their finest

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:29 PM
what did i say about that squirrel

cocamide
12-26-2010, 12:29 PM
There goes the illusion of thinking that we'd beat the Patsies.

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 12:29 PM
Run defense blows

Novacane
12-26-2010, 12:29 PM
Defense can't stop the run. Gonna be a long afternoon.

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 12:30 PM
Should I even bother watching the rest of the game?

Novacane
12-26-2010, 12:30 PM
There goes the illusion of thinking that we'd beat the Patsies.



Who was thinking that? I knew they would kick the **** out of us like they always do.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:30 PM
these guys r gonna score ...thats what they do..we have to match offense...d be damned

YardRat
12-26-2010, 12:31 PM
GD I hate that midget. the POS can't get taken out of the play that easily.

sba
12-26-2010, 12:33 PM
You noticed the false start penalty, did you dickhead?

Yeah, but 65 yards on 7 carries is still greater than 5 yards per carry.

cocamide
12-26-2010, 12:33 PM
OK, nice catch Spiller.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:33 PM
CJ sighting!

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 12:34 PM
Who says rag arm Fitz cant throw the deep ball?

djjimkelly
12-26-2010, 12:34 PM
spiller is finally part of the game plan yay

show us that your a 1st rounder cj

baalworship
12-26-2010, 12:35 PM
Spiller just flashed all world talent on that play. How many rb's can do that?!

djjimkelly
12-26-2010, 12:35 PM
Should I even bother watching the rest of the game?


your a gluten for punishment at this point td just like the rest of us

this is the first game i want us to win this year

just because i hate the pats so much

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:36 PM
stupid

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 12:36 PM
Hold on to the ball.

Meaningless wins took the Bills out of the Luck sweepstakes.

cocamide
12-26-2010, 12:36 PM
Freaking cockmonkey. I thought we cut Edwards and Losman long ago.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:36 PM
these ****en snowmonkeys always find new ways to lose to the gaytriots

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 12:37 PM
I could rush for 100 yards against the Bills today.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:38 PM
hold

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 12:38 PM
What is worse, the Bills run defense or their pass rush?

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:38 PM
of course defensive

Novacane
12-26-2010, 12:38 PM
45-10

MikeInRoch
12-26-2010, 12:39 PM
Hold on to the ball.

Meaningless wins took the Bills out of the Luck sweepstakes.

STFU.

Novacane
12-26-2010, 12:39 PM
What is worse, the Bills run defense or their pass rush?


flip a coin.

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 12:40 PM
STFU.
No.

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 12:43 PM
Over/Under 250 yards rushing for Pats today?

Novacane
12-26-2010, 12:43 PM
Resign Whitner. We can't create another hole :lmao:

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 12:44 PM
Nice coverage Donte. :rolleyes:

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:44 PM
Resign Whitner. We can't create another hole :lmao:

candy meet babies

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 12:44 PM
Pathetic.

cocamide
12-26-2010, 12:44 PM
Just break Brady's leg.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:45 PM
it's such a warm and fuzzy feeling hearing brady slathered upon by the announcers AT BUFFALO

Novacane
12-26-2010, 12:46 PM
Our D looks ok when they play against losers like Chad Henne. Against Brady they don't stand a chance.

Novacane
12-26-2010, 12:46 PM
Just break Brady's leg.


How? The bums we have rushing the passer can't get near him.

baalworship
12-26-2010, 12:47 PM
Bad idea not to be covering the tight end in the red zone. I would use McKelvin on him from here on out. Let Florence or Corner take Welker.

YardRat
12-26-2010, 12:47 PM
Defense is looking like ass.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:49 PM
this is the difference between legit teams and the buffalo bills..legit teams cahs opportunitys..bills were in the redzone TWICE cashed 3 points..scrubs

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 12:52 PM
Down by 2 scores #18.

psubills62
12-26-2010, 12:52 PM
You guys really want to re-sign Whitner for $7 million per year just so we don't "create a hole"? Yeah, it's great to have someone there to tackle the tight end AFTER he makes the catch.

YardRat
12-26-2010, 12:53 PM
Jesus...We can score on these guys, we just have to hold onto the ball and get a couple of breaks/turnovers for ourselves.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:53 PM
Down by 2 scores #18.

these guys cant act like they've been there before...they HAVEN'T

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:54 PM
You guys really want to re-sign Whitner for $7 million per year just so we don't "create a hole"? Yeah, it's great to have someone there to tackle the tight end AFTER he makes the catch.

no no not "you" guys...just the same apologists for these self same scrubs

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:55 PM
hold

Novacane
12-26-2010, 12:56 PM
You guys really want to re-sign Whitner for $7 million per year just so we don't "create a hole"? Yeah, it's great to have someone there to tackle the tight end AFTER he makes the catch.

No.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:56 PM
i can;t hate on wrotto..cause he's Mansfield ***n Wrotto

YardRat
12-26-2010, 12:56 PM
JC...WTF with the penalties?

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:58 PM
who tf are some of these guys ...jones?

baalworship
12-26-2010, 12:58 PM
Stevie Johnson has got to start making some plays on the ball.

Novacane
12-26-2010, 12:58 PM
Go for it. WTF do we have to lose

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 12:59 PM
Fitz is off today.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 12:59 PM
y not serious enough?

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 12:59 PM
Kind of tired of Johnson not holding on to the ball.

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:00 PM
Nice catch *******

tomz
12-26-2010, 01:00 PM
who tf are some of these guys ...jones?

Have you even watched the bills this year? Jones is not exactly a newbie.

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 01:00 PM
Another 12 yards rushing.

JCBills
12-26-2010, 01:00 PM
Kind of tired of Johnson not holding on to the ball.

Kind of tired of the Pats not getting flagged for any of these helmet to helmet hits.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:00 PM
just shuffle off poz

Cleve
12-26-2010, 01:00 PM
well, at least the incompletes are going around

MikeInRoch
12-26-2010, 01:00 PM
Apparently helmet to helmet hits aren't illegal if you are the Patriots.

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:01 PM
Kind of tired of Johnson not holding on to the ball.




Que the Johnson defenders.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:01 PM
Have you even watched the bills this year? Jones is not exactly a newbie.

ya bud i have...thanks for asking though

seanbillsfan
12-26-2010, 01:01 PM
This is gonna get ugly

psubills62
12-26-2010, 01:01 PM
Anyone who thinks we don't need a #1 WR is just fooling themselves.

tommy6030
12-26-2010, 01:01 PM
Fitz is def having a bad day for accuracy. They were running the ball so well.... when will they learn!

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:02 PM
candy from babies

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:03 PM
men vs boys

Cleve
12-26-2010, 01:03 PM
Fitz is def having a bad day for accuracy. They were running the ball so well.... when will they learn!

Unfortunately, the Bills can't seem to bring the complete package to a game. Either they're passing well, and running poorly, or vice versa. It's frustrating.

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 01:03 PM
145 yards rushing so far.

Cleve
12-26-2010, 01:04 PM
At least Johnson doesn't have to feel bad - Welker just dropped a gimme

baalworship
12-26-2010, 01:04 PM
Welker with his Stevie J impression.

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 01:04 PM
Anyone who thinks we don't need a #1 WR is just fooling themselves.
Green should be the only offensive player the Bills should consider in round 1.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:05 PM
when u ever see a Bills TEthrow a block like gronk just threw

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 01:05 PM
Welker with his Stevie J impression.
Did it again.

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:05 PM
Yay! The Patriots finally stopped themselves.

Cleve
12-26-2010, 01:06 PM
At least Bills held them to a field goal. If they'd gotten 7, I'd be just about ready to declare the game over.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:06 PM
Yay! The Patriots finally stopped themselves.

and they still scored

cocamide
12-26-2010, 01:07 PM
How? The bums we have rushing the passer can't get near him.

Just hit him late. Screw it, the fines go to charity anyways.

psubills62
12-26-2010, 01:07 PM
Green should be the only offensive player the Bills should consider in round 1.

Depending on where we pick, I agree.

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 01:07 PM
At least Bills held them to a field goal. If they'd gotten 7, I'd be just about ready to declare the game over.
It's been over since the Bills couldn't score 7 on their FG drive.

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:08 PM
It was over when the schedule was announced.

Cleve
12-26-2010, 01:09 PM
It's been over since the Bills couldn't score 7 on their FG drive.

Yeah, I know. Just tryin' to stay optimistic, if possible. Now another dumb penalty to hurt the Bills again.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:10 PM
solomon wilcotts or dierdork who's worse?

Cleve
12-26-2010, 01:10 PM
Johnson juggled it, but still managed to catch it

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:11 PM
Johnson juggled it, but still managed to catch it

Johnson is good..we need him..he's not as good as some people make him out to be

Cleve
12-26-2010, 01:11 PM
Throwing up the middle like that is hard on the receivers, for sure. Nelson got walloped.

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 01:11 PM
Who did the Bills draft instead of Mayo?

JCBills
12-26-2010, 01:12 PM
Yet another helmet to helmet hit that doesn't get flagged. This is absurd.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:12 PM
these crossing routes might get one of these guys killed

bigdog72ny
12-26-2010, 01:12 PM
fitzpatrick is going to get his wr's killed throwing into coverage like that

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:13 PM
Yet another helmet to helmet hit that doesn't get flagged. This is absurd.


That was not helmet to helmet

cocamide
12-26-2010, 01:13 PM
Game over

psubills62
12-26-2010, 01:13 PM
The lack of flags is ridiculous, but consistent with the refereeing lately.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:13 PM
ya..FITZ..let's roll with him into the future

baalworship
12-26-2010, 01:13 PM
Ugh. Game.

bigdog72ny
12-26-2010, 01:14 PM
back to reality for fitz today

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 01:14 PM
Who did the Bills draft instead of Mayo?
Ahh, a meaningless win cost the Bills the chance to draft Mayo. They drafted McToast instead.

psubills62
12-26-2010, 01:14 PM
Who did the Bills draft instead of Mayo?

No one, Mayo wasn't there when the Bills picked.

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:14 PM
Wow. That was a really dumb pass for someone who is supposed to be super smart.

sba
12-26-2010, 01:14 PM
Yet another helmet to helmet hit that doesn't get flagged. This is absurd.

Are you surprised?? They've gotten every call in their favor for like 8 years now.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:14 PM
this game is a microcosm of why we can't take Fitz as a starter into the future..his arm is noodly, not a Buffalo Winter arm...and he WILL ALWAYS thrwo picks...ALWAYS

BuffaloBlitz83
12-26-2010, 01:16 PM
FitzCraptic

MikeInRoch
12-26-2010, 01:16 PM
Ahh, a meaningless win cost the Bills the chance to draft Mayo. They drafted McToast instead.

Why don't they just not bother playing any games and just go 0-16 every year then? Would that make you happy?

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 01:16 PM
this game is a microcosm of why we can't take Fitz as a starter into the future..his arm is noodly, not a Buffalo Winter arm...and he WILL ALWAYS thrwo picks...ALWAYS
Not in position to draft Luck thanks to meaningless wins.

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:17 PM
We are so far away from even competing with NE much less surpassing them. This is freaking depressing.

MikeInRoch
12-26-2010, 01:17 PM
Yet another helmet to helmet hit that doesn't get flagged. This is absurd.

That one was actually clean.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:17 PM
somebody fire up the Newton bandwagon

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:18 PM
this loss will feel good come april

sba
12-26-2010, 01:18 PM
I'd love for someone to just lay a helmet into Brady's head...watch how ****ing fast the flags would fly then.

psubills62
12-26-2010, 01:18 PM
Another Whitner tackle... a yard past the first down! What a stud, racking up all those tackles.

BillsWin
12-26-2010, 01:18 PM
Lack of flags in this one confuses me. I've seen holding and pass interference out the ass.

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 01:18 PM
Why don't they just not bother playing any games and just go 0-16 every year then? Would that make you happy?
Q: What's the difference between 4-12 and 0-16?

A: Draft position.

I'd rather see 0-16, 1-15, or 3-13 over 4-12. They all suck so might as well suck the worst.

sba
12-26-2010, 01:19 PM
Surprised they didn't call that PI

NOT THE DUDE...
12-26-2010, 01:20 PM
the score is the way it is because of penalties, not fitz...

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:20 PM
Lack of flags in this one confuses me. I've seen holding and pass interference out the ass.


We are getting manhandled by a far superior team. Nice try blaming the refs though.

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 01:20 PM
The Bills need to make some Championship moves like signing Brett Johnson.

MikeInRoch
12-26-2010, 01:20 PM
Q: What's the difference between 4-12 and 0-16?

A: Draft position.

I'd rather see 0-16, 1-15, or 3-13 over 4-12. They all suck so might as well suck the worst.

No. Sucking the worst is much worse. Being happy to see your team lose means you are simply not a fan.

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 01:21 PM
Poz doing his best Donte impersonation.

djjimkelly
12-26-2010, 01:21 PM
blowout is underway

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:21 PM
lol. They make it look so easy. This defense sucks

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:21 PM
embarrasing..brady can make a sandwich have a beer comb his locks and then throw..good thing we got Maybin to harrass his ass

Cleve
12-26-2010, 01:22 PM
Wow, the Bills are so outclassed by the Patriots - this lackluster performance shows WNY the end result of Ralph Wilson Jr's incompetency and cheapness over the last 10 years.

kingJofNYC
12-26-2010, 01:22 PM
Poz has been brutal all game long. Late on runs, can't shed a block, can't cover.

baalworship
12-26-2010, 01:22 PM
Poz covering fat Crumpler, lol.

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 01:22 PM
No. Sucking the worst is much worse. Being happy to see your team lose means you are simply not a fan.
Wrong.

Lose now, win later.
Mediocre now, mediocre later.

Meaningless wins do nothing for the future except hurt it.

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:23 PM
forfeit the 2nd half.

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:24 PM
Poz covering fat Crumpler, lol.



You mean running 3 yards behind fat Crumpler lol.

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 01:24 PM
Wow, the Bills are so outclassed by the Patriots - this lackluster performance shows WNY the end result of Ralph Wilson Jr's incompetency and cheapness over the last 10 years.

I disagree, it shows how poor the drafts have been for the past 10 years.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:24 PM
You mean running 3 yards behind fat Crumpler lol.

if they draft another high motor white guy.,..like that kerrigan bum...

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 01:25 PM
It's Brohm time to start the 2nd half.

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:25 PM
It must be nice having two automatic wins on your schedule every year.

Buddo
12-26-2010, 01:26 PM
the score is the way it is because of penalties, not fitz...

So a Fitz fumble and interception that have lead to TDs for the Patsies, aren't actually Fitz's fault?

Get real please.

Penalties don't help matters, but it's turnovers that kill. Guess where they have come from?

YardRat
12-26-2010, 01:27 PM
Our receivers are getting *****-slapped on every play.

NOT THE DUDE...
12-26-2010, 01:27 PM
im not so sure poz will be resigned... maybe but we need way bigger linebackers...

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:27 PM
It's Brohm time to start the 2nd half.

we're not seeing Brohm..gailey hitched his wagon to the mountain man

Cleve
12-26-2010, 01:28 PM
I disagree, it shows how poor the drafts have been for the past 10 years.

C'mon. Those drafts didn't occur in a vacuum. We've had crappy front office personnel making these decisions - thanks again to Ralph Wilson Jr. Not to mention the cheapest coaching and staff that money couldn't buy.

NOT THE DUDE...
12-26-2010, 01:28 PM
i hope donald is ok... he hit his head hard...

cocamide
12-26-2010, 01:28 PM
Wrong.

Lose now, win later.
Mediocre now, mediocre later.

Meaningless wins do nothing for the future except hurt it.

What makes you think we'd pick well if we drafted five spots sooner? Good players are available everywhere in the draft, what matters is picking them.

MikeInRoch
12-26-2010, 01:28 PM
Wrong.

Lose now, win later.
Mediocre now, mediocre later.

Meaningless wins do nothing for the future except hurt it.

Wins are not meaningless. They are the goal for the team.

Absolutely nothing about losing now guarantees anything about "winning later", especially with how poorly we tend to draft.

tomz
12-26-2010, 01:28 PM
Merriweather sure led with his head on that.

psubills62
12-26-2010, 01:29 PM
Lose now, win later.

That is about as far from a legitimate formula as you can get.

Buddo
12-26-2010, 01:29 PM
Some of those hits are very borderline. Helmets are hitting about the same time as whatever other body part is. Last one was a case in point. Helmet hitting shoulder area first.

cocamide
12-26-2010, 01:30 PM
That is about as far from a legitimate formula as you can get.

It's worked well for Detroit.

NOT THE DUDE...
12-26-2010, 01:30 PM
spencer johnson and marcus stroud BLOW. they literally cant hold their ground...

Cleve
12-26-2010, 01:30 PM
Well, that was a completely dismal first half performance by the Bills.

Brady is one more completion away from tying Bernie Kosar's record, BTW.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:30 PM
What makes you think we'd pick well if we drafted five spots sooner? Good players are available everywhere in the draft, what matters is picking them.

better players are usually found earlier thhough...we wanted Rothlisbooger...he went a couple picks before us..cause of our middling record the year prior whod we get..wasnt it loserman?

we wanted patrick willis...same thing

psubills62
12-26-2010, 01:31 PM
I disagree, it shows how poor the drafts have been for the past 10 years.

Yes, and it's a result of who we drafted, not where we drafted.

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 01:31 PM
Wins are not meaningless. They are the goal for the team.


They are when there is only 4.

A win could mean the difference between Patrick Willis or Marshawn Lynch.

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 01:32 PM
Yes, and it's a result of who we drafted, not where we drafted.
Combination of both.

Cleve
12-26-2010, 01:32 PM
Is anyone else thinking it would have been more merciful if the game WERE blacked out? LOL

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:34 PM
They are when there is only 4.

A win could mean the difference between Patrick Willis or Marshawn Lynch.


Or the difference between Julius Peppers and Mike Williams. Or the difference between Ben R and trading up for JP losman. W

psubills62
12-26-2010, 01:34 PM
Combination of both.

No, it's not, mainly because there's no way you can guarantee that we'd pick a stud even if we selected earlier. I have zero doubts that we would have chosen McKelvin anyway even if we had selected 2 slots earlier and Mayo had been there.

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 01:36 PM
Wins are not meaningless. They are the goal for the team.


Ask the Chargers if they rather of lost 1 more game in 1997. That 1 extra win had a lot of meaning for them and not in a good way.

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:36 PM
It is a combination of both.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:37 PM
No, it's not, mainly because there's no way you can guarantee that we'd pick a stud even if we selected earlier. I have zero doubts that we would have chosen McKelvin anyway even if we had selected 2 slots earlier and Mayo had been there.

see but by your way of thinking this organization has no hope..as they'll always make the wrong move


some of us want to think that if Andrew Luck was dangled in front of our face that we'd actually recognize his goodness and not draft prince fkein namakumara

kingJofNYC
12-26-2010, 01:37 PM
Or the difference between Julius Peppers and Mike Williams. Or the difference between Ben R and trading up for JP losman. W

Pretty sure we could have traded up for Ben R if they offered a ****ing first rounder like they did for Losman, but alas player evaluation has been pure **** for the better part of a decade.

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 01:38 PM
Well, that was a completely dismal first half performance by the Bills.

Brady is one more completion away from tying Bernie Kosar's record, BTW.
It's Donter time. He's going to stop the streak.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:39 PM
It's Donter time. He's going to stop the streak.

Bwahahaha...thanks for the rofl man

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:42 PM
It's Donter time. He's going to stop the streak.



He'll have a sure INT bounce off his hands into a receivers hands who will make the record breaking catch and run it in for a TD.

psubills62
12-26-2010, 01:42 PM
see but by your way of thinking this organization has no hope..as they'll always make the wrong move


some of us want to think that if Andrew Luck was dangled in front of our face that we'd actually recognize his goodness and not draft prince fkein namakumara

I never said they'll always make the wrong move. They HAVE made a lot of poor decisions. I, personally, have more faith in this regime than the last two. My point is not that the Bills will make the wrong decision; my point is that the solution is to choose the right player, not to lose out.

Going 0-16 or 1-15 and still making bad decisions (or being unable to develop talent, like Jauron and co.) does not lead to success.

cocamide
12-26-2010, 01:45 PM
If our D-linemen didn't stand up there, I don't think the refs would've called that false start.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:46 PM
I never said they'll always make the wrong move. They HAVE made a lot of poor decisions. I, personally, have more faith in this regime than the last two. My point is not that the Bills will make the wrong decision; my point is that the solution is to choose the right player, not to lose out.

Going 0-16 or 1-15 and still making bad decisions (or being unable to develop talent, like Jauron and co.) does not lead to success.

we're going to agree to disagree.

4-12 imo is stupid, teaches nothing.we're gonna miss LUCK by 2 meaningless games

Cleve
12-26-2010, 01:46 PM
yes, nice stop!

cocamide
12-26-2010, 01:46 PM
Wow, Poz made a stop

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 01:46 PM
I never said they'll always make the wrong move. They HAVE made a lot of poor decisions. I, personally, have more faith in this regime than the last two. My point is not that the Bills will make the wrong decision; my point is that the solution is to choose the right player, not to lose out.

A. Chris Kelsay extension

B. CJ Spiller drafted 9th.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:47 PM
now lets go ..vintage fitzy led comeback

Cleve
12-26-2010, 01:47 PM
Brady stands on the verge of making history on the next series, BTW - he is now tied with Kosar for most consecutive passes without an interception

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:47 PM
Could we give Brady a little more time back there. Holy ****!!!!!!!!!

psubills62
12-26-2010, 01:48 PM
we're going to agree to disagree.

4-12 imo is stupid, teaches nothing.we're gonna miss LUCK by 2 meaningless games

Not even sure if Luck will come out this year.

Cleve
12-26-2010, 01:48 PM
If the Bills can get some points on the board during this upcoming drive, there is still some hope.

NOT THE DUDE...
12-26-2010, 01:48 PM
touchdown here or its over pretty much...

over

psubills62
12-26-2010, 01:49 PM
A. Chris Kelsay extension

B. CJ Spiller drafted 9th.

A. Dumb, agreed.

B. Too early to make judgments on it.

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:50 PM
If the Bills can get some points on the board during this upcoming drive, there is still some hope.


Hope of what?

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:50 PM
Not even sure if Luck will come out this year.

yep i know..doesnt matter to me 4-12 is not a moral victory over 1-15

1-15 is the actual victory over 4-12 as the choice would be ours..is bowers better than fairley dareus? who cares my choice...i dont have to worry about it.

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:50 PM
Fitz is not the answer.

cocamide
12-26-2010, 01:50 PM
Wow, that pick was horrible. Please be on the Pats.

cocamide
12-26-2010, 01:51 PM
Fitz is not the answer.

Don't get sore patting yourself on the back.

BuffaloBlitz83
12-26-2010, 01:51 PM
What the **** is he doing!

Cleve
12-26-2010, 01:51 PM
I hope this ends all the talk of franchise anything.

Cleve
12-26-2010, 01:52 PM
Hope of what?

With that horrible pick, absolutely nothing now

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:52 PM
What the **** is he doing!

he's being Fitz..a very very good (backup) QB..who's been playing over his head

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:53 PM
**** i hate jauron

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:54 PM
Look who was supposed to be covering on that play :lol:

Cleve
12-26-2010, 01:54 PM
he's being Fitz..a very very good (backup) QB..who's been playing over his head

Yep - Fitzpatrick should be to the Bills what Kitna is to the Cowboys - backup when the franchise QB is sidelined.

Unfortunately we don't have a franchise QB

psubills62
12-26-2010, 01:54 PM
yep i know..doesnt matter to me 4-12 is not a moral victory over 1-15

1-15 is the actual victory over 4-12 as the choice would be ours..is bowers better than fairley dareus? who cares my choice...i dont have to worry about it.

Sorry, that's no victory. In a halfway decent draft those guys wouldn't even be considered for the top pick. None of those guys are worth 60-70 million. We're talking about freaking DE's for pete's sake. The best DE's in the business in Pittsburgh are being paid $3.6, $0.63, and $1.4 million per year.

Mahdi
12-26-2010, 01:55 PM
Look who was supposed to be covering on that play :lol:
Look how long Brady sat back there... How long do you think coverage should last?... get real.

NOT THE DUDE...
12-26-2010, 01:55 PM
turn out the lights guys.... this ones over...

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:55 PM
Yep - Fitzpatrick should be to the Bills what Kitna is to the Cowboys - backup when the franchise QB is sidelined.

Unfortunately we don't have a franchise QB

don't worry this performance woke ralph up out of his geriatric daze and put cam newton squarely on his radar..

Cleve
12-26-2010, 01:55 PM
This is brutal now... 30 - 3 in the 3rd quarter. Bills should start scoring soon though, when Patriots switch to prevent defense and go soft on offense to eat up the clock. Unless of course Darth decides to run up the score - LOL

BuffaloBlitz83
12-26-2010, 01:56 PM
Fitznumbers should look even better vs Revis Island

Novacane
12-26-2010, 01:56 PM
Look how long Brady sat back there... How long do you think coverage should last?... get real.





Whitner can't cover. Get real

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 01:58 PM
Sorry, that's no victory. In a halfway decent draft those guys wouldn't even be considered for the top pick. None of those guys are worth 60-70 million. We're talking about freaking DE's for pete's sake. The best DE's in the business in Pittsburgh are being paid $3.6, $0.63, and $1.4 million per year.

yep you missed my point...and as i said im not trying to convince u of anything believe what u want to..we're going to agree to disagree

i used those players because they will be part of this upcoming draft..the point was about choice

...btw u have no idea if any of the players coming out this draft are going to be great

NOT THE DUDE...
12-26-2010, 01:58 PM
well i have to admit, i think we need a qb. i was wrong....

cam newton is a big risk. i would take ryan mallett or jake locker

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 02:00 PM
well i have to admit, i think we need a qb. i was wrong....

cam newton is a big risk. i would take ryan mallett or jake locker

cam newton is an enormous risk i agree..I'm not even sure if he can read a defense..but the organization is going to take a risk to keep hope alive to fill seats

mallett i hope not..i dont see "it" in him

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 02:00 PM
Here comes garbage yards and points.

JCBills
12-26-2010, 02:01 PM
Hands to the face vs Bell, these refs are laughable.

psubills62
12-26-2010, 02:02 PM
yep you missed my point...and as i said im not trying to convince u of anything believe what u want to..we're going to agree to disagree

i used those players because they will be part of this upcoming draft..the point was about choice

...btw u have no idea if any of the players coming out this draft are going to be great
It's true, I don't know. But I do know that NO defensive end in a 3-4 is worth 10-15 million per year, no matter how great they are.

I didn't miss the point. My point is that having the choice among guys who really aren't worth the top overall pick is not a good situation to be in. There is plenty of choice wherever we'll be picking.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 02:02 PM
it would have been nice if ANY of our receivers stepped and made a quality play...just one..instead of begging for a flag every time

Novacane
12-26-2010, 02:02 PM
Here comes garbage yards and points.

Nope. Just yards :lol:

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 02:04 PM
It's true, I don't know. But I do know that NO defensive end in a 3-4 is worth 10-15 million per year, no matter how great they are.

I didn't miss the point. My point is that having the choice among guys who really aren't worth the top overall pick is not a good situation to be in. There is plenty of choice wherever we'll be picking.

you should also know that you root for a team that is always on the wrong side of LUCK don't you...pun intended (Luck will come out..becasue the Bills Don't have the #1 pick..i hope I'm wrong it'll make me feel better)

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 02:05 PM
Pos with the big hit after Welker drops it.

Johnny Bugmenot
12-26-2010, 02:05 PM
mallett i hope not..i dont see "it" in him
What "it?"

Winning games? Yep, the Razorbacks are in Sugar Bowl contention this year.

An NFL prototype pocket passer? Got it.

Played in cold weather? He was recruited to Michigan before ending up in Arkansas. Check.

Experience in a pro system? Yeah, that too-- in fact, he transferred instead of switching to the spread in Michigan.

He has everything you could possibly want in a professional quarterback. I would be extremely happy if Ryan Mallett ended up on this team.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 02:06 PM
It's true, I don't know. But I do know that NO defensive end in a 3-4 is worth 10-15 million per year, no matter how great they are.

I didn't miss the point. My point is that having the choice among guys who really aren't worth the top overall pick is not a good situation to be in. There is plenty of choice wherever we'll be picking.

yep i got your point..discussion over

we're going to agree to disagree

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 02:07 PM
What "it?"

Winning games? Yep, the Razorbacks are in Sugar Bowl contention this year.

An NFL prototype pocket passer? Got it.

Played in cold weather? He was recruited to Michigan before ending up in Arkansas. Check.

Experience in a pro system? Yeah, that too-- in fact, he transferred instead of switching to the spread in Michigan.

He has everything you could possibly want in a professional quarterback. I would be extremely happy if Ryan Mallett ended up on this team.

he's as dumb as a brick? he has no mobility?

you could be right...I could be off base,..but i'd rather not find out with hiim in a Bills uni

kingJofNYC
12-26-2010, 02:08 PM
Arkansas still runs a spread, it's just a pass spread.

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 02:08 PM
I wouldn't be pissed the Bills drafted Mallet. I'd only be pissed if he turned out to be a bust.

Mad Max
12-26-2010, 02:08 PM
I wouldn't be pissed the Bills drafted Mallet. I'd only be pissed if he turned out to be a bust.

lol way to hedge

TacklingDummy
12-26-2010, 02:09 PM
That was a fumble.

Mr. Pink
12-26-2010, 02:09 PM
Mr No Fumble in College can't hold on to the ball here in the NFL.

cocamide
12-26-2010, 02:09 PM
Sorry to all the people who spent money on this garbage.

Cleve
12-26-2010, 02:10 PM
CBS commentator stated that Spiller's rookie year has been a disappointment.

Patriots will likely win this challenge, sadly.

YardRat
12-26-2010, 02:11 PM
I'm so tired of the 'winning is not meaningless' vs 'lose and draft higher' discussions I'm really hoping that Luck doesn't declare, and when he does and finally makes it to the NFL he busts. Unless we draft him, of course.

jamze132
12-26-2010, 02:11 PM
Look how long Brady sat back there... How long do you think coverage should last?... get real.
Seriously?

Novacane
12-26-2010, 02:11 PM
We need to just start trading away our 1rst round pick. Whens the last time we made a good pick with our #1?