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  • T-Long
    Circling the Wagons since 1982.
    • Sep 2003
    • 3848

    So, where are we currently drafting?

    I've been trying to track down the current info and scenario for our pick in 2011. As of right now, I think the Bills are 4th overall. But with the Jets looking to sit some of their players next week, what is the worse case scenario?
  • DraftBoy
    Administrator
    • Jul 2002
    • 107442

    #2
    Re: So, where are we currently drafting?

    I believe 5th is worst case and 3rd is best place, but draft order projection is not my thing. I think Doc or psubills has a better idea.
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    We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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    • T-Long
      Circling the Wagons since 1982.
      • Sep 2003
      • 3848

      #3
      Re: So, where are we currently drafting?

      Originally posted by DraftBoy
      I believe 5th is worst case and 3rd is best place, but draft order projection is not my thing. I think Doc or psubills has a better idea.
      5th is worst case even if the Bills end up winning? I also thought I read somewhere that we could possibly draft 2nd and that would be our best case. Thanks for the info though, I'm confused.

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      • NOT THE DUDE...
        Hall of Fame Zoner
        • Jan 2010
        • 8826

        #4
        Re: So, where are we currently drafting?

        best case-2
        worst case-8 - not 100% sure...

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        • Mindbender
          Registered User
          • Apr 2010
          • 1024

          #5
          Re: So, where are we currently drafting?

          I think 2nd is "best case" if Cinci and Denver win and we lose. 5th-7th is "worst case" if we win. (There are 4 teams sitting at 5-10 I believe).

          Perhaps psubills will chime in in a bit or update that draft order thread.
          "Talk is cheap, we all know that. It's like I've always said, don't tell me about the labor pains, just show me the baby. That's what we've got to do. We've got to show you the baby, and the baby is winning." ~Buddy Nix

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          • Thief
            Registered User
            • Sep 2009
            • 820

            #6
            Re: So, where are we currently drafting?

            I found this for ya......
            Joe Buscaglia Reporting

            JoeB@WGR550.com


            Ok, so here's the deal ladies and gentlemen.

            Sunday's loss to New England was abysmal, but it was a huge day for draft order if you're in to that sort of thing. And I'm assuming at this point most of you are.

            Great news for the Buffalo Bills. With their loss, and all of Arizona, Detroit, Denver and Cincinnati winning, the 2nd overall pick is still a distinct possibility, and I'm going to break it down easily for you to get you in the know of who you want to win in Week 17.

            If the NFL Draft happened after Monday night, this would be the order:

            1) Carolina
            2) Denver
            3t) Cincinnati
            3t) Buffalo

            Now, since Cincinnati played both Atlanta and New Orleans, they automatically get a win and a loss added to their strength of schedule. The big game is Tuesday night. A Philadelphia win would mean Cincinnati and Buffalo stay tied. If Minnesota wins, Cincinnati would then have sole possession of the 3rd overall pick.

            Cincinnati and Buffalo aren't even close to Denver in strength of schedule, so that's out of the realm of possibility. Denver's opponents have a win total of 122 to Cincinnati and Buffalo's 139.

            Going in to next week, the only opponents that make a big difference between the Bengals and Bills are down to four. Two a piece. For Cincinnati, it's San Diego and Indianapolis. For Buffalo, it's Kansas City and Jacksonville.

            You want wins from Cincinnati's two, and losses for Buffalo's two. But it gets tricky, because San Diego plays Denver.

            However, these are the ways to get to the 2nd overall pick for Buffalo.

            1) Philadelphia beats Minnesota Tuesday, Cincinnati defeats Baltimore, and Denver defeats San Diego
            or
            2) Philadelphia beats Minnesota Tuesday, Baltimore defeats Cincinnati, Denver defeats San Diego, Indianapolis defeats Tennessee, Oakland defeats Kansas City and Houston defeats Jacksonville.

            So that's the road to the best possible scenario. This all assuming that the Bills lose to the New York Jets, which may be in question now with the Jets having clinched a playoff spot thanks to key losses in Week 16.

            Now the bad news.

            There's a whole mess of teams with 5 wins at this time. And if we're counting Minnesota as a loss, it gets a whole more crowded.

            The unfortunate news is that if the Bills manage to beat the New York Jets, their draft position will drop considerably.

            Even though there are seven teams with five wins at this time, it is IMPOSSIBLE for them to drop below all seven. And it's simple reasoning for that.

            Four of the 5 win teams are facing off against each other. Arizona is playing San Francisco, and Detroit is playing Minnesota.

            So that knocks off two pegs right there.

            Here's how the five win teams stack up right now, with their opponents wins after their name:

            5) Arizona 109
            6) San Francisco 119
            7) Dallas 125 (126 with a New Orleans win)
            8) Houston 127
            9) Minnesota 130 (131 with a New Orleans win)
            10) Detroit 131
            11) Cleveland 138

            Now, if the Bills win, the absolute BEST case scenario would be that Buffalo picks 8th overall. Cleveland is the ONLY team they can pass, and they need a little help to do it.

            Of course, this all assuming that the 5 win teams all lose, of course. If any of them win, Buffalo obviously moves ahead of them.

            So here's how it goes, the Bills could get as high as the #2 pick with a loss (or #3 or #4) and they would be either #8 or #9 with a win in the worst case scenario.

            That's a ton of draft positioning on the line in just one game.

            If you have questions, ask me at my Twitter page: @JoeB_WGR
            Last edited by Thief; 12-27-2010, 07:53 AM.

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            • T-Long
              Circling the Wagons since 1982.
              • Sep 2003
              • 3848

              #7
              Re: So, where are we currently drafting?

              Originally posted by Thief
              I found this for ya......
              you are the man!

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              • IAG
                Registered User
                • Jan 2005
                • 709

                #8
                Re: So, where are we currently drafting?

                NICK FAIRLY

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                • X-Era
                  What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 27670

                  #9
                  Re: So, where are we currently drafting?

                  Originally posted by IAG
                  NICK FAIRLY
                  if we trade down maybe.

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                  • psubills62
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 11295

                    #10
                    Re: So, where are we currently drafting?

                    Thief and Joe_B said pretty much what I was going to say. However, a couple of his comments on next week don't see quite right. Looking at the situations, I'm 99% sure that if we do happen to win, we'll be drafting in front of Cleveland.

                    Overall, Joe is correct though. Best case scenario is 2nd, worst is 9th.
                    "Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
                    - Nicholas Cummings

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                    • THRILLHO
                      This is great, and all I've done is enter my name!
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 1574

                      #11
                      Re: So, where are we currently drafting?

                      Originally posted by Thief
                      I found this for ya......
                      I think my head just exploded reading that.
                      True fans want wins, not draft picks.

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                      • psubills62
                        Legendary Zoner
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 11295

                        #12
                        Re: So, where are we currently drafting?

                        Originally posted by THRILLHO
                        I think my head just exploded reading that.
                        Basically: root for Minnesota to lose on Tuesday.

                        If we lose next weekend: we'll pick 2nd, 3rd or 4th. If Cincy/Denver also lose, root for KC and Jacksonville to lose, but Indianapolis to win.

                        If we win next weekend: root for as many of the 5-win teams as possible to win. That's about it.
                        "Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
                        - Nicholas Cummings

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                        • Nighthawk
                          Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 15437

                          #13
                          Re: So, where are we currently drafting?

                          We're currently picking 3rd...winning next week would be horrible!

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                          • Novacane
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 42371

                            #14
                            Re: So, where are we currently drafting?

                            Originally posted by Nighthawk
                            We're currently picking 3rd...winning next week would be horrible!
                            You are not a real fan

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                            • Nighthawk
                              Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 15437

                              #15
                              Re: So, where are we currently drafting?

                              Originally posted by Novacane
                              You are not a real fan
                              I know, what am I thinking!?!?!

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