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Think that's a bit of a reach. How does this guy still have a job? Reluctantly took Locker off the top spot after having him there a majority of the season.
I would put him there if I felt better about his inconsistencies. They don't bother me because I think it's a matter of time, not if, but because of them I can't agree that he should be drafted top 10 or 5. I think the right spot for him is late 1st early 2nd. But, IMO, I like him better than Mallet and Newton at this point. Both Newton and Mallett will likely be drafted ahead of him at this point because of their success this year. But, Newton and Mallett have some off the field issues that need to be answered.
I will also add this. Gabbert still looking raw is the only concern I have with him and I see no reason he can't sit for a while, even if it's a bit longer because he is still a bit raw. He can further develop his decision making and pocket presence which will improve his consistency. If he stays, and I think he should, I see him battling for the top QB rank next year. A team could make a case for him that early because of his better off the field situation and maturity, which may lead a team to make a better argument for him as the better leader.
And, as I have said numerous times, he already looks decent at reading defenses, can make every NFL throw, has one of the strongest arms in the draft, has a quick release, usually uses good footwork, is pretty mobile, and has solid accuracy. I like his leadership, I like his decision making most of the time and I think he's a deceptive play maker who makes plays that keep the chains moving more often than it appears. I also like the fact that he has come from a spread since we run it so often. I think he fits the Bills well.
Would I have an issue with the Bills taking him that high? Probably not because of what I think he can become. But, my opinion is based on potential and he is not worthy of that high of a pick right now. I also think his off-season may further improve his rank and that he could reach that high of a pick if he excels.
I would put him there if I felt better about his inconsistencies. They don't bother me, but because of them I can't agree that he should be drafted top 10 or 5. I think the right spot for him is late 1st early 2nd. But, IMO, I like him better than Mallet and Newton at this point. Newton and Mallett have some off the field issues that need to be answered.
I'm with you on most of this. I actually think Gabbert is going higher than most believe. I don't think McShay's that far off with this (maybe not top 5 though). I still think Locker is going to go high too. I think Mallett is going to be the guy who drops quite a bit because of the mental concerns. Too much Jeff George for my comfort. Newton is the most gifted, overall, but he needs a lot of good coaching and, as you mentioned, the off-the-field questions will require a bunch of teams to spend extra money on pre-draft due diligence.
I'm with you on most of this. I actually think Gabbert is going higher than most believe. I don't think McShay's that far off with this (maybe not top 5 though). I still think Locker is going to go high too. I think Mallett is going to be the guy who drops quite a bit because of the mental concerns. Too much Jeff George for my comfort. Newton is the most gifted, overall, but he needs a lot of good coaching and, as you mentioned, the off-the-field questions will require a bunch of teams to spend extra money on pre-draft due diligence.
I agree with you about Locker.. Watch him climb the draft boards again this offseason.
I agree with you about Locker.. Watch him climb the draft boards again this offseason.
I don't think so.
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I'm with you on most of this. I actually think Gabbert is going higher than most believe. I don't think McShay's that far off with this (maybe not top 5 though). I still think Locker is going to go high too. I think Mallett is going to be the guy who drops quite a bit because of the mental concerns. Too much Jeff George for my comfort. Newton is the most gifted, overall, but he needs a lot of good coaching and, as you mentioned, the off-the-field questions will require a bunch of teams to spend extra money on pre-draft due diligence.
On Newton, I think there are teams that won't worry that much at all about the off the field stuff, I just don;t think the Bills will be one of them.
On Locker, I think that teams may try to convince themselves they can get over the inconsistencies but that they will end up ranking him behind Luck, Mallett, Newton and maybe even Gabbert because of it. I think that Lockers stock will rise back into late 1 consideration though because of his athleticism and what he is likely to do running drills in shorts.
I think that if Luck, Mallett, Newton, and Gabbert all declare I think we could see 4 or maybe 5 QB's drafted in round 1.
I think one of those "first round" QBs will fall to Buffalo's pick in the second round. Not saying the Bills will take him but I think they will have the opportunity to draft one in round 2.
I think Buffalo will have an opportunity for one of those in the second.
Add in Kolb and McNabb and thats 7 potential QBs for needy first round teams.
Carolina - Luck
Buffalo - Gabbert in the second
SF - Newton
AZ - Kolb
Seattle?
Miami - Mallet
Oakland - No first rounder
Washington - Locker
Minny - McNabb
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Every year somebody pulls a dumb move for a QB, and every year at least one gets drafted way higher than the big boards would indicate. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if Arizona reached for one this draft.
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why is this the first ive heard of gabbert's stock being so high? we've been talking qb all year and it seems this guy's name rarely came up... what's his deal, can someone give me some positives/negatives about gabbert?
Qb's always go high because to most it's the most important position. Should be obvious.
If the Bills all lucky enough for one to fall to the 2nd, grab him.
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