****Andrew Luck Bowl Game Scouting Thread****

[BidsJr]

I figured I would make one of these since we have 3 upcoming games with possible QB targets in Luck, Mallet and Newton.

Could have made one for Gabbert but I knew my Hawkeyes would make him look like a chump!


Here we can break him down and nitpick him into a 3rd rounder.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Would you post the bowl game times for each game? Thanks.

[Forward_Lateral]

Bills fans scouting Luck is like test driving a Ferrari. Why bother if you have no shot at buying it?

[Mr. Miyagi]

Nah we're Buddy and Chan are changing our culture in the right direction.

I wouldn't say we have no shot at Luck.

[BidsJr]

Game time is 8:30 EST on ESPN.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Game time is 8:30 EST on ESPN.
For Luck's game.

What about Mallett and Newton?

[BidsJr]

For Luck's game.

What about Mallett and Newton?


Mallett plays tomorrow night 8:30pm EST vs Ohio State, and Newton plays next Monday night at 8:30pm EST vs Oregon. Both games will be on ESPN.

[ptd86]

You could say this is the best defense Luck has faced this year if not in his career

[Mad Max]

Bills fans scouting Luck is like test driving a Ferrari. Why bother if you have no shot at buying it?
Here's why

1.) the NFL stands for? the you Never ***nknow League

- number one picks have been traded several times
- consensus #1 players have been passed over several times
- two teams, not one, passed over Matty Ice for a Lineman
- 6 teams passed over Adrian Peterson for...no one in particular
- one team was stupid enough to pass up Bryant All Pro Mckinnie, for Fat Albert's FATTER brother

2.) College Football is winding down, so for those NCAA fans among us..we're going to watch good match-ups regardless of the Bills related ramifications.

[BidsJr]

Here's why

1.) the NFL stands for? the you Never ***nknow League

- number one picks have been traded several times
- consensus #1 players have been passed over several times
- two teams, not one, passed over Matty Ice for a Lineman
- 6 teams passed over Adrian Peterson for...no one in particular
- one team was stupid enough to pass up Bryant All Pro Mckinnie, for Fat Albert's FATTER brother

2.) College Football is winding down, so for those among us..we're going to watch good match-ups regardless of the Bills related ramifications.


Hahaha!

[DraftBoy]

Should we do this as well for Pat Devlin's game on Friday v. Bo Levi Mitchell?

ZB's for anybody who can tell me who Bo Levi played for before EWU without looking it up.

[Mr. Miyagi]

I should be rewarded with zonebucks if I even knew who Bo Levi Mitcheel was, or what position he even plays.

Which I don't. :ill:

[Mad Max]

Should we do this as well for Pat Devlin's game on Friday v. Bo Levi Mitchell?

ZB's for anybody who can tell me who Bo Levi played for before EWU without looking it up.

Coe College?

[DraftBoy]

Coe College?

No

[DraftBoy]

I should be rewarded with zonebucks if I even knew who Bo Levi Mitcheel was, or what position he even plays.

Which I don't. :ill:

Fail.

But Ill give you some sympathy rep. :posrep:

[Mad Max]

BUMPITY BUMP..here we go!

[X-Era]

I will be updating the profile thread for him throughout the game. I may save the update at the half. May not scout the whole game.

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=192356

[Night Train]

" OMG ! First pass incomplete. BUST ! "

Pre-game warmup... Stretch..cracking knuckles...

[Bangarang]

Buddy's nurse is waking him up now to watch this.

[Mad Max]

Buddy's nurse is waking him up now to watch this.

I hope Ralph's woke him, put a fresh diaper on him, and put a nice cool can of ensure in front of him as he watches this game.

We all know how much he loves high motor white guys...

[BidsJr]

Luck to get the ball first

[BidsJr]

Captain Checkdown.

[Mad Max]

Captain Checkdown.

hahaha,,that's how they dooz it on the Cardinal

[Night Train]

Ran for 11 yards on the first play. Couldn't complete a pass for a first down.

We don't need a running college QB.

Bust

[mikemac2001]

i dont even want to watch this

but i am just to see because he has never wowed me and when i have watched they were playing bad teams

[mikemac2001]

really nice hand off by luck

[BidsJr]

He can make Spiller into a star with handoffs like that.

[Mad Max]

lol, that was a redonkulously dumb play by the lineman

[YardRat]

Both teams have been playing really good pass defense.

[k-oneputt]

Even the GREAT A. Luck had trouble with the VT pressure in the 1st qt.

[BidsJr]

Wow what a play.

[Mad Max]

wow what a great ply by Taylor

[wmoz11]

Great play by Tyrod. He has improved drastically the last year or two.

[BidsJr]

And not by Luck lol.

[k-oneputt]

Not even Luck could do that.

[Figster]

Great play by Tyrod. He has improved drastically the last year or two.



Great pass and catch, wow

[YardRat]

That was impressive.

[BidsJr]

Zippy throw there

[Figster]

Nice throw Andrew Luck

[DraftBoy]

That's the throw that makes him who he is. Not just accurate, pin point.

[kingJofNYC]

His targets so far have been 5 to TEs, 2 to RBs, 3 to WRs.

[EricStratton]

Can we bash him now?

[BidsJr]

3rd rounder book it

[wmoz11]

I'd bash that WR for rounding off his cut.

[k-oneputt]

If Locker threw that int. DB would have him going in the 6th rd.

[X-Era]

Can we bash him now?I was hoping for more like... "he won't go number 1"... That way I could say, "I hope he doesn't for our sake".

Bash away, no one truly knows, it's all based on potential and that applies to every position.

[BillsWin]

Luck 8 of 10 for 73 yards and a TD. Third rounder my ass!

[DraftBoy]

WR's on both team are looking bad tonight. Poor routes, poor field awareness, just a poor showing.

[BillsWin]

Missed the INT. Damn.

[DraftBoy]

If Locker threw that int. DB would have him going in the 6th rd.
No you have it all wrong, I expect Locker to throw those picks so it wouldnt of changed anything.

You give me no credit.

[BidsJr]

Luck 8 of 10 for 73 yards and a TD. Third rounder my ass!


lol @ u

[X-Era]

No you have it all wrong, I expect Locker to throw those picks so it wouldnt of changed anything.

You give me no credit.:lol:

[wmoz11]

Matt Ryan threw a **** load of INTs at BC, btw.

[DraftBoy]

Missed the INT. Damn.

Poor decision, but WR should of ran a crisper route that would of blocked Housley's close. Still not a throw you make v. a CB who can close like that. The pick is on Luck.

[BidsJr]

I think Luck has checked off at the line more tonight than Trent did in the last 3 years here.

[X-Era]

I think Luck has checked off at the line more tonight than Trent did in the last 3 years here.Man I hope he drops. :up:

[DraftBoy]

I think Luck has checked off at the line more tonight than Trent did in the last 3 years here.
He's not checking off as much as you might think. A lot of it is for show and to try and out think the D.

Same thing Manning does in Indy, maybe 1/4-1/2 of it is really him changing something.

[kingJofNYC]

I've been charting his throws and personnel.

Targets so far:
6 to WR
5 to TE
2 to RB

Stanford's used at least two TEs 44% of the time (they've used OL in place of TEs, but I'm lumping them together).

[DraftBoy]

I've been charting his throws and personnel.

Targets so far:
6 to WR
5 to TE
2 to RB

Stanford's used at least two TEs 44% of the time (they've used OL in place of TEs, but I'm lumping them together).


VT isn't a big or physical team so they are going with a heavy look like John Harbaugh uses in Baltimore to overload the strong side and beat VT down physically. Working well so far.

[tampabay25690]

Good game so far.

[Mad Max]

BRuuuuuuuuuuce

[Mad Max]

dam just dam...go for two from here on in

[psubills62]

I know Gruden and Jaws are supposed to add mostly positive commentary, but I don't know if Jaws has ever covered a QB he didn't like. He raves about everyone.

[wmoz11]

Wow - that was a throw.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Good God the more I watch Andrew Luck the more impressed I am. This kid has almost no flaws.

[Mad Max]

I know Gruden and Jaws are supposed to add mostly positive commentary, but I don't know if Jaws has ever covered a QB he didn't like. He raves about everyone.

Yep, he's the biggest QB homer there is. He used to wax poetic abut Rob Johnson.

[BidsJr]

Only way we get this guy is to sell the farm moving up to #1.

No chance in hell he drops to 3.

[wmoz11]

His throwing motion reminds me almost exactly of Aaron Rodgers. It's almost perfect.

[psubills62]

Yep, he's the biggest QB homer there is. He used to wax poetic abut Rob Johnson.

And Edwards, I remember.

[psubills62]

Anyone know if Marecic grades out better as a LB or FB? His conditioning must be awesome to be on the field as much as he is. We should draft him as a LB...he won't even notice any difference in the amount of time he's on the field.

[Mad Max]

Where'd the Luck poopooers disappear to?

This kid is butta. Legit butta.

[Mad Max]

Anyone know if Marecic grades out better as a LB or FB? His conditioning must be awesome to be on the field as much as he is. We should draft him as a LB...he won't even notice any difference in the amount of time he's on the field.

haha...I see what you did there

[Mr. Miyagi]

Anyone know if Marecic grades out better as a LB or FB? His conditioning must be awesome to be on the field as much as he is. We should draft him as a LB...he won't even notice any difference in the amount of time he's on the field.
Just because he has long blond hair doesn't mean he's going to be Clay Matthews.

[k-oneputt]

Where'd the Luck poopooers disappear to?

This kid is butta. Legit butta.

I didn't see anyone say he wasn't the 1st pick. Have you ? But don't say pressure doesn't effect him because it effects all qb's.

[Mad Max]

I didn't see anyone say he wasn't the 1st pick. Have you ? But don't say pressure doesn't effect him because it effects all qb's.

I would never say that, because it doesn't need to be said...it's obvious.

[k-oneputt]

Obviously.

[Mad Max]

Obviously.

yet you said it. well done, for stating the....

[psubills62]

Stanford would be a threat in a playoff.

[Mad Max]

too easy...men vs boys.

I think this performance is going to make Luck's decision easier.

[better days]

I still question if he could play in the North East myself. Aside from a 40 yd throw down the middle of the field, his throws have been the short throws like Trent Edwards makes all the time.

I think he will be better suited to play in Carolina than Buffalo & will not cry when they pick him #1. I was more upset losing Rothlisburger to the Steelers than I will be about missing out on Luck.

[Mad Max]

I still question if he could play in the North East myself. Aside from a 40 yd throw down the middle of the field, his throws have been the short throws like Trent Edwards makes all the time.

I think he will be better suited to play in Carolina than Buffalo & will not cry when they pick him #1. I was more upset losing Rothlisburger to the Steelers than I will be about missing out on Luck.

He has the arm, his short throws are a product of the offense Stanford runs.

[kingJofNYC]

Still don't like his deep ball to the outside, didn't throw any(?) in this game, but if you watch him against ND/Oregon you'd see it as well.

It's the only knock I've found, it probably has more to do with protection than anything. His line isn't great at pass blocking.

[better days]

He has the arm, his short throws are a product of the offense Stanford runs.

I guess we will find out at his pro day. I doubt he does anything at the combine.

[BuffaloBlitz83]

very humble kid

[Bangarang]

That Luck kid seems to be pretty good at quarterbacking.

[Bill Cody]

I still question if he could play in the North East myself. Aside from a 40 yd throw down the middle of the field, his throws have been the short throws like Trent Edwards makes all the time.

I think he will be better suited to play in Carolina than Buffalo & will not cry when they pick him #1. I was more upset losing Rothlisburger to the Steelers than I will be about missing out on Luck.

He's a stud. Period. I think we do what we have to do to move up and take him. The kid has beautiful mechanics, he's mobile and he's smart. He will be a star.

[Mad Max]

Harbs just gave a good bye speech.

[DraftBoy]

Anyone know if Marecic grades out better as a LB or FB? His conditioning must be awesome to be on the field as much as he is. We should draft him as a LB...he won't even notice any difference in the amount of time he's on the field.

FB.

[X-Era]

FB.I'd like to take him in say round 4 or 5... could be a special teams beast and I like the versatility.

[DraftBoy]

I'd like to take him in say round 4 or 5... could be a special teams beast and I like the versatility.

Waste of a pick, as we saw with Owen Schmitt years ago, no team spends picks that high on FB when they are literally jsut as good as the guy you can call off the street.

[X-Era]

Waste of a pick, as we saw with Owen Schmitt years ago, no team spends picks that high on FB when they are literally jsut as good as the guy you can call off the street.I can see that argument. And we certainly don't need a backup FB. I just looked at the upside of him on ST's and the possibility of having him be a backup LB'er. I was a bit impressed with his ability to shed blocks and make tough tackles last night as a LB'er. But I do agree that he should stay at FB.

[DraftBoy]

I can see that argument. And we certainly don't need a backup FB. I just looked at the upside of him on ST's and the possibility of having him be a backup LB'er. I was a bit impressed with his ability to shed blocks and make tough tackles last night as a LB'er. But I do agree that he should stay at FB.

Dont be overly impressed with it, its VT, they aren't the most fundamental blocking team ever. Look at how much pressure Stanford got and they dont even have a real pass rusher.

[k-oneputt]

Waste of a pick, as we saw with Owen Schmitt years ago, no team spends picks that high on FB when they are literally jsut as good as the guy you can call off the street.

Like all rb's.
A. Foster, L. Blount, and F. Jackson all free agents off the streets.
Why again do we use the 9th pick on a rb and better yet don't even use the guy. That's pretty sharp.

[X-Era]

Like all rb's.
A. Foster, L. Blount, and F. Jackson all free agents off the streets.
Why again do we use the 9th pick on a rb and better yet don't even use the guy. That's pretty sharp.Why did we draft Troup and Carrington who did virtually nothing then either?

You don't base your drafts success on the first year. Marv Levy said it best, the best rookies are last years rookies.

Come back in 2 more years and let's revisit. You may still be right, we simply don't know yet.

[DraftBoy]

Like all rb's.
A. Foster, L. Blount, and F. Jackson all free agents off the streets.
Why again do we use the 9th pick on a rb and better yet don't even use the guy. That's pretty sharp.

You dont want to play that game, you'll lose because the numbers arent on your side. You're using exceptions to try and prove a rule that doesnt exist.