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  • BuffaloBlitz83
    We play to win the game!
    • Oct 2009
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    I hope Spiller can be Half of Jamaal Charles

    This guy is amazing!
  • psubills62
    Legendary Zoner
    • Sep 2008
    • 11295

    #2
    Re: I hope Spiller can be Half of Jamaal Charles

    Originally posted by BuffaloBlitz83
    This guy is amazing!
    As someone said before (I believe it was IckyBaluky), Charles didn't do very well his first year either.
    "Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
    - Nicholas Cummings

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    • YardRat
      Well, lookie here...
      • Dec 2004
      • 86163

      #3
      Re: I hope Spiller can be Half of Jamaal Charles

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      • Mad Max
        Fortes Fortuna Adiuvat
        • Mar 2003
        • 6698

        #4
        Re: I hope Spiller can be Half of Jamaal Charles

        I hope he can be TWICE JCharles.

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        • EDS
          Registered User
          • Jan 2003
          • 5216

          #5
          Re: I hope Spiller can be Half of Jamaal Charles

          Originally posted by psubills62
          As someone said before (I believe it was IckyBaluky), Charles didn't do very well his first year either.
          Jamaal Charles was not a first round pick.

          Now, you are going to say that does not matter, but I think it does. A running back picked early in the first round should contribute early. It is the easiest position to make the transition from college to pros and early first round picks should require less "development" versus later picks.

          Let's just hope Spiller can be productive in future seasons.

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          • dannyek71
            Drink Responsibly
            • Dec 2004
            • 6945

            #6
            Re: I hope Spiller can be Half of Jamaal Charles

            Take this a lesson. This is what is wrong with this team. We devote our 1st rounder to a rb when we have many other needs. Other teams are finding rbs in later rounds who are more talented.
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            • kingJofNYC
              Registered User
              • Sep 2009
              • 5960

              #7
              Re: I hope Spiller can be Half of Jamaal Charles

              Hope he comes through in '11, we're kind of screwed if he doesn't.

              Spiller admitted to having trouble with the playbook/getting the play calls right. Guess a wonderlic score of 10 would have predicted some of his troubles on that front.

              Really worried about him to be honest, I'll be crossing my fingers for next season.

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              • BertSquirtgum
                Legendary Zoner
                • May 2009
                • 13379

                #8
                Re: I hope Spiller can be Half of Jamaal Charles

                Originally posted by dannyek71
                Take this a lesson. This is what is wrong with this team. We devote our 1st rounder to a rb when we have many other needs. Other teams are finding rbs in later rounds who are more talented.
                i can't believe people are still crying about the bills taking spiller. move on sir. move on.

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                • Michael82
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 82330

                  #9
                  Re: I hope Spiller can be Half of Jamaal Charles

                  Originally posted by HurkeyNuts
                  i can't believe people are still crying about the bills taking spiller. move on sir. move on.
                  Danny has been *****ing about the Spiller pick all year. He's one of Spiller's biggest haters...

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                  • TheGhostofJimKelly
                    Registered User
                    • May 2003
                    • 12459

                    #10
                    Re: I hope Spiller can be Half of Jamaal Charles

                    F that, he better be better than Charles.

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                    • Extremebillsfan247
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 3142

                      #11
                      Re: I hope Spiller can be Half of Jamaal Charles

                      Spiller will get better.

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                      • psubills62
                        Legendary Zoner
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 11295

                        #12
                        Re: I hope Spiller can be Half of Jamaal Charles

                        Originally posted by EDS
                        Jamaal Charles was not a first round pick.

                        Now, you are going to say that does not matter, but I think it does. A running back picked early in the first round should contribute early. It is the easiest position to make the transition from college to pros and early first round picks should require less "development" versus later picks.

                        Let's just hope Spiller can be productive in future seasons.
                        Charles and Spiller started out as somewhat similar players, though.

                        RB is indeed the easiest position to learn in the NFL - if all you're doing is running the ball. Spiller was obviously drafted to be more than just a runner. It seems to me a lot of times when young RB's contribute early, they simply run the ball, maybe catch a few passes, but then they're always taken out of the game on 3rd and long situations for a veteran RB to come in and pass protect.

                        Spiller simply hasn't learned pass protection, among other things, as quickly as people thought. It's not a huge deal, as he has an offseason (and possibly a whole year with a lockout) to develop in these areas. I'm sure they'll work on him as an inside runner (which I think he can become) this offseason as well.
                        "Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
                        - Nicholas Cummings

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                        • Ickybaluky
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 8884

                          #13
                          Re: I hope Spiller can be Half of Jamaal Charles

                          Originally posted by psubills62
                          Charles and Spiller started out as somewhat similar players, though.
                          They are a little different. Charles is more of a long-strider, an upright runner. He was a state champion in the high hurdles in High School. Both are explosive athletes who can accelerate. I think Spiller runs lower and is shiftier, and I think Spiller is a more natural receiver.

                          Originally posted by psubills62
                          Spiller simply hasn't learned pass protection, among other things, as quickly as people thought. It's not a huge deal, as he has an offseason (and possibly a whole year with a lockout) to develop in these areas. I'm sure they'll work on him as an inside runner (which I think he can become) this offseason as well.
                          I think that is the bottom line, and the reason both these players didn't play much as rookies. When you have a guy who was a feature RB in college, understanding pro protection schemes are a big hurdle. It isn't just knowing your own responsibility, it is understanding the whole blocking scheme, how the play is being defensed, and anticipating where the rush is coming from. If you don't understand defensive concepts you won't be able to anticipate, and there isn't enough time to recover. It takes film study, time and reps to pick up.

                          Once Spiller begins to show he can be trusted in pass protection he can be out there more. He has the skill set to be a terror in the passing game, not just the running game.

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                          • psubills62
                            Legendary Zoner
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 11295

                            #14
                            Re: I hope Spiller can be Half of Jamaal Charles

                            I also think that there were too many times when Spiller was in and it was obvious they were just going to run him. Defenses could too easily key in on Spiller in too many situations this year, imo. This is where our lack of true playmakers (sorry guys, Steve Johnson still doesn't scare anyone) really hurts us.
                            "Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
                            - Nicholas Cummings

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                            • EDS
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 5216

                              #15
                              Re: I hope Spiller can be Half of Jamaal Charles

                              Originally posted by psubills62
                              Charles and Spiller started out as somewhat similar players, though.

                              RB is indeed the easiest position to learn in the NFL - if all you're doing is running the ball. Spiller was obviously drafted to be more than just a runner. It seems to me a lot of times when young RB's contribute early, they simply run the ball, maybe catch a few passes, but then they're always taken out of the game on 3rd and long situations for a veteran RB to come in and pass protect.

                              Spiller simply hasn't learned pass protection, among other things, as quickly as people thought. It's not a huge deal, as he has an offseason (and possibly a whole year with a lockout) to develop in these areas. I'm sure they'll work on him as an inside runner (which I think he can become) this offseason as well.
                              Spiller was drafted to primarily run the ball. He did not do that effectively. Add in his inability to grasp blocking schemes and his fumbling problem and he has some serious work to do.

                              Charles was also more productive from scrimmage than Spiller, to the tune of about 200 total yards.

                              I hope Spiller can turn it around. Personally, I would not use a high draft pick on a running back when rebuilding a team.

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